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Mr. Cohen
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Mike Love was the 5th Beatle!
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Listen as Mike Love teaches Paul McCartney how to rock like the early Beach Boys:
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Several days later he would help Paul write "Back in the U.S.S.R.".
Here we see George Harrison trying to nudge up to Mike in a group photograph:
Mike Love's feedback on John and Paul's songwriting efforts during their time with the Maharishi left an indelible stamp on 'The White Album', which numerous fans and critics alike coincidentally consider to be the Beatles best work.
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Yessir, Mike's pith helmet must have had the punkawhallahs trembling in their kaftans! Jolly good show of support from the old colonists, what-ho?
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Quote from: Wee Helper on November 03, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
Yessir, Mike's pith helmet must have had the punkawhallahs trembling in their kaftans! Jolly good show of support from the old colonists, what-ho?
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Quote from: variable2 on November 03, 2009, 10:23:17 PM
Quote from: Wee Helper on November 03, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
Yessir, Mike's pith helmet must have had the punkawhallahs trembling in their kaftans! Jolly good show of support from the old colonists, what-ho?
Brilliant, isn't it? I loved that one too... BTW: for me (for all of us?) esp. these photos begin to look truly surreal by now. As if it never happened. Or only in a movie. I don't know...
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I had never heard that song before! It sounds like something that would be on Party!
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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Quote from: Magic Transistor Radio on November 04, 2009, 10:45:47 PM
I had never heard that song before! It sounds like something that would be on Party!
yeah, what the hell? is this only available on beatles bootlegs? what??
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an asshole'?
Anyways, sorry to break up the Love fest-long live the 5th Beatle!!
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use.
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Quote from: Dada on November 05, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use.
Oh, hi there Dr. Love.
ever talked to Van Dyke Parks? or have you just read that one quote of his in some obscure beach boys literature?
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Quote from: variable2 on November 05, 2009, 07:32:04 AM
Quote from: Dada on November 05, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use.
Oh, hi there Dr. Love.
ever talked to Van Dyke Parks? or have you just read that one quote of his in some obscure beach boys literature?
I bet Dada is applying for a role in the next BBs Family TV Serial, as 'That Cousin From H*ll' or something...
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I can't remember where I saw that. Maybe the old SMiLE shop board? Or maybe I dreamt it.
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Van Dyke did say that John and Paul hated Mike Love. And according to our hero and leader, Mr. Parks is the biggest butthole in the world.
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Quote from: Dada on November 05, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use.
Right-Mike kept his head clear while his bloated ego grew large enough to make him the most laughed at and hated man in rock and roll. He also seemed to severely faulter in attempting to make speeches at award ceremonies.
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Brilliant, isn't it? I loved that one too... BTW: for me (for all of us?) esp. these photos begin to look truly surreal by now. As if it never happened. Or only in a movie. I don't know...
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You are right! I can't help thinking of this image after your comment now.
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/12/07/fashion/07python-600.jpg
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Quote from: oldsurferdude on November 05, 2009, 05:48:48 PM
Right-Mike kept his head clear while his bloated ego grew large enough to make him the most laughed at and hated man in rock and roll. He also seemed to severely faulter in attempting to make speeches at award ceremonies.
That video was too wierd. I can honestly say I never thought I'd
ever
hear the Beatles sing to Mike, but it certainly made me smile
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Quote from: Dada on November 05, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use.
Parks understands that An American Family will stand as a legacy for Beach Boys fans who don't know the history, but he's hoping that the music will ultimately stand as the stronger legacy. "What I saw on that show about Brian Wilson was false, and that's all I really need to say," he concludes. "I guarantee you it was a pack of lies. And I'll tell you something -- I'll give you one final clean piece of evidence. The audience was led to believe by that movie that John Lennon wanted to jam with Mike Love. Well, I was with John Lennon one time, and he told me that he and Paul thought that Mike Love was -- and these are the words John Lennon used -- 'a jerk.' The Beatles thought Mike Love was a jerk. So there are obviously two different impressions of that meeting. Mike Love has one and John Lennon had another. So, I'm submitting John Lennon's recollection to you since he's no longer here to do it himself."
http://vandykeparks.com/miscfiles/latimes0004.html
Touring an oldies package successfully for decades cos you've no talent to do anything else, or:
...he's worked with everyone from the Byrds, Paul Revere & the Raiders, and his friend Harry Nilsson to, more recently, Fiona Apple, U2, Sam Phillips, and Rufus Wainwright, the latter whose debut LP he coproduced. The telepic also makes no note of his movie or TV soundtracks, nor seems to consider his collaboration with Brian Wilson several years ago on the wonderful Orange Crate Art album.
Think I'll choose the latter, thanks.
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Quote from: Destroyer on November 11, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: Dada on November 05, 2009, 02:41:24 AM
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Didn't VDP once say something like 'John and Paul thought Mike Love was an butthole'?
Yeah, and VDP also thinks that the Beatles sneaked into LA studios in 66/67 to listen to SMiLE without Brian's knowledge. Clearly, he's delusional, no doubt owing to his years of LSD, amphetamine, and weed use. Mike kept his head clear. Why would you want to lose your ego? Mike's been touring successfully for decades while acid 'heroes' like Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Roky Erickson were too busy fighting personal demons brought out by excessive drug use
Parks understands that An American Family will stand as a legacy for Beach Boys fans who don't know the history, but he's hoping that the music will ultimately stand as the stronger legacy. "What I saw on that show about Brian Wilson was false, and that's all I really need to say," he concludes. "I guarantee you it was a pack of lies. And I'll tell you something -- I'll give you one final clean piece of evidence. The audience was led to believe by that movie that John Lennon wanted to jam with Mike Love. Well, I was with John Lennon one time, and he told me that he and Paul thought that Mike Love was -- and these are the words John Lennon used -- 'a jerk.' The Beatles thought Mike Love was a jerk. So there are obviously two different impressions of that meeting. Mike Love has one and John Lennon had another. So, I'm submitting John Lennon's recollection to you since he's no longer here to do it himself."
http://vandykeparks.com/miscfiles/latimes0004.html
Touring an oldies package successfully for decades cos you've no talent to do anything else, or:
...he's worked with everyone from the Byrds, Paul Revere & the Raiders, and his friend Harry Nilsson to, more recently, Fiona Apple, U2, Sam Phillips, and Rufus Wainwright, the latter whose debut LP he coproduced. The telepic also makes no note of his movie or TV soundtracks, nor seems to consider his collaboration with Brian Wilson several years ago on the wonderful Orange Crate Art album.
Think I'll choose the latter, thanks.
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Quote from: Destroyer on November 11, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Touring an oldies package successfully for decades cos you've no talent to do anything else
And just what is Brian doing right now?
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Quote from: Aegir on November 12, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
Quote from: Destroyer on November 11, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Touring an oldies package successfully for decades cos you've no talent to do anything else
And just what is Brian doing right now?
You must be joking. The guy has been releasing music steadily since 2004: BWPS (2004), Christmas Album (2005), TLOS (2007), and next, the Gershwin project. He may be doing a greatest hits tour, but he's certainly not been out of the studio for years.
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Quote from: Aegir on November 12, 2009, 07:02:09 PM
Quote from: Destroyer on November 11, 2009, 11:36:57 AM
Touring an oldies package successfully for decades cos you've no talent to do anything else
And just what is Brian doing right now?
Gee, I think maybe he's singing mostly songs that HE wrote from the past mixed in with a few tunes HE wrote for HIS albums-you know, songs from Smile, Lucky Old Sun, and even Pet Sounds which He wrote. A far cry from the baldster's copy Brian's stuff tribute band.
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Uh, Mike's been in the studio, too, and a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera). Sure, Brian's a little more prolific (maybe because labels consider him to be "THE Brian Wilson"), but it's essentially the same thing.
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Quote from: Aegir on November 12, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Uh, Mike's been in the studio, too, and a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera). Sure, Brian's a little more prolific (maybe because labels consider him to be "THE Brian Wilson"), but it's essentially the same thing.
"...essentially the same thing" as what? Mike's the same as Brian in the writing dept??
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Quote from: Aegir on November 12, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Uh, Mike's been in the studio, too, and a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera). Sure, Brian's a little more prolific (maybe because labels consider him to be "THE Brian Wilson"), but it's essentially the same thing.
Brian sells out famous halls to play "SMiLE" and "That Lucky Old Sun" in their entirety, his newly released ALBUMS.
Mike packs in a couple thousand folks at the local fairground and has, in your words, "a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera)."
Brian goes in the studio and knocks out a quite nice new song with Burt Bacharach called "What Love Can Do".
Mike goes in the studio and knocks out a pathetic Christmas rehash of Kokomo even more pathetically titled "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo".
Yes, you're right. They are essentially the same thing and require the same talent levels. Silly me!
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Quote from: Destroyer on November 13, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
Brian sells out famous halls to play "SMiLE" and "That Lucky Old Sun" in their entirety, his newly released ALBUMS.
Mike packs in a couple thousand folks at the local fairground and has, in your words, "a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera)."
Brian goes in the studio and knocks out a quite nice new song with Burt Bacharach called "What Love Can Do".
Mike goes in the studio and knocks out a pathetic Christmas rehash of Kokomo even more pathetically titled "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo".
Yes, you're right. They are essentially the same thing and require the same talent levels. Silly me!
You might want to read Aegir's post again, especially the "
because labels consider him to be 'THE Brian Wilson'
" part. Labels are more willing to release a Brian Wilson album than a Mike Love album, no matter how good/bad Mike's unreleased album is.
Regarding "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo", Mike wanted to do a fun holiday song, not a groundbreaking masterpiece. And he released it for free, whereas with Brian's management you have to buy the same album three times to get all the different bonus tracks.
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Quote from: SloopJohnB on November 13, 2009, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: Destroyer on November 13, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
Brian sells out famous halls to play "SMiLE" and "That Lucky Old Sun" in their entirety, his newly released ALBUMS.
Mike packs in a couple thousand folks at the local fairground and has, in your words, "a few of his songs make it to the setlist (Cool Head Warm Heart, Santa's Goin' to Kokomo, et cetera)."
Brian goes in the studio and knocks out a quite nice new song with Burt Bacharach called "What Love Can Do".
Mike goes in the studio and knocks out a pathetic Christmas rehash of Kokomo even more pathetically titled "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo".
Yes, you're right. They are essentially the same thing and require the same talent levels. Silly me!
You might want to read Aegir's post again, especially the "
because labels consider him to be 'THE Brian Wilson'
" part. Labels are more willing to release a Brian Wilson album than a Mike Love album, no matter how good/bad Mike's unreleased album is.
Regarding "Santa's Goin' To Kokomo", Mike wanted to do a fun holiday song, not a groundbreaking masterpiece. And he released it for free, whereas with Brian's management you have to buy the same album three times to get all the different bonus tracks.
I can see it now-an entire album full of Mike Love (who?) bonus tracks. Wait a minute! Wasn't that previously released under the title "Looking Back With Love" ? OF COURSE the lovester released SGTK for free!! Who in their right mind would pay for crap like that??
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