Is It Allowed...

[The Heartical Don]

...to talk 'fan mixes' here? As all of you know, I detest bootlegs as being the products of sick criminal minds who want to make a quick buck by offering the achievements of the truest geniuses in popular music that said geniuses did not deem fit for general and legal release. So I never listen to them and go to church on a regular basis to pray for those who do.

There is a phenomenon called 'fan mixes'. Are these the work of the devil too?

[smile-holland]

Therefore, my brother, we have 8 commandments, to help you out.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,122.msg2.html#msg2

The 3rd guideline (3. Talking about bootlegs is fine. Posting messages asking for bootlegs or offering bootlegs is not fine. That's what private messages and emails are for.) should answer your question.

Any discusssion on bootlegs or fan-mixes is just fine, as long as you dont openly exchange them on this board (as in asking for or offering them). It's that easy.

[The Heartical Don]

Thank you, you are a fine man, mr. Reverend SMiLE-Holland, sir! You lifted a burden off of my heart. I will think of you when I will be watching 'The Hour Of Power', coming Sunday.

...during that programme I always doze off anyway, because Rev. Shuller is not that entertaining anyway...

[LostArt]

So....are you going to talk about fan mixes, or did you just want to know if it's allowed to talk about them here? 

Personally, my favorite Smile fan mix at the moment is the one by DJ Mic Luv.  It's not perfect, and I'm certain that it's nothing like what Brian would have put out in '66-'67, but to my ears it's the most enjoyable listen.  My least favorite part of that particular fan mix is the fake wind noise, during Heroes & Villains.  I'm not too fond of the ending to Surf's Up on that one, either.  Most of the rest is delightful, sort of like Brian Wilson meets Frank Zappa.  Great use of some of the Smile era party stuff, and the Vegetables skit (one of my favorite moments, Hal Blaine saying "There are no chemicals in my soil" just before the Fire music starts...perfect). 

I only have three or four other fan-mixes, and I haven't listened to any of them recently.  I've heard that Purple Chick's is good, and Mok's, as well.  I'm not really interested in one that copies the BWPS track list.  Don't get me wrong, I do like BWPS, and love the Wonderful/Song For Children/Child/Surf's Up sequence, but I haven't heard one of those hybrid Smile/BWPS mixes that sounds good.  If any of you know of one that does sound good, let's hear about it.   

[The Heartical Don]

I recently heard the Pet Sounds In The Key Of Dee... it is a brilliant failure, because it almost gets there (a rhythmically grooving hip hop Pet Sounds mash up) but has a couple of technical faults. But it does have its fantastic out-there moments, you get disoriented and psychedelic by the shards and tiny phrases of PS harmonies...

[hypehat]

My personal favourite is The Alternate Brian Wilson one.... lots of little funny touches that work. The three movement thing is also incredibly well-handled.
I also don't really get the fuss about the Purple Chick one, once you get past the neat digital stereo trickery. Kind of makes me want to listen to BWPS, so i can hear the lyrics to Worms, or the second bit in actual decent sound quality, for example. Surf's Up is the best thing on there.
Mok's is pretty good, has the best version of Good Vibrations i've heard on a smile boot ( i hate the sound of the stereo mix to that, too) and it all flows quite nicely. And have any of you heard The Big Grin mix? that's short, but it works.

[Amanda Hart]

I also don't really get the fuss about the Purple Chick one, once you get past the neat digital stereo trickery.

I don't really get into the Purple Chick mix either, I think the transitions and edits are too jarring, although I am a huge fan of the Beatles Deluxe sets that Purple Chick put out.  The Fast Eddie fan mix really similar to the Purple Chick one, but the edits are smoother so I think it is a better listen, I also really like his version of Surf's Up.

[PongHit]

My personal favourite is The Alternate Brian Wilson one.... lots of little funny touches that work. The three movement thing is also incredibly well-handled.

What is this 'Alternate' mix?  It combines 60s stuff with BWPS?

[TonyW]

The best SMiLE fan mix I've ever heard is one song and one song only ... the Anne Wallace mix of Surf's Up ... for me its the diffinitive version.

[punkinhead]

one of my fav fan mixes is by Jerry Boyd, it's called the Beach Boys Smile Again, it's mostly post Smile stuff, but it uses promos with mixing Soulful Old Man Sunshine to Three Blind Mice and then using We're together Again, Breakaway...then San Miguel, the Smog speech, He gives Speeches, Fall Breaks, and Sail Plane Song...oh and Can't Wait Too Long

[runnersdialzero]

I don't really get into the Purple Chick mix either, I think the transitions and edits are too jarring, although I am a huge fan of the Beatles Deluxe sets that Purple Chick put out.  The Fast Eddie fan mix really similar to the Purple Chick one, but the edits are smoother so I think it is a better listen, I also really like his version of Surf's Up.

Agreed - it's not bad, but overall sounds way too "patched together" and has too much trickery which sounds funny, and sometimes lower quality and weirdness just for the sake of stereo.

JUST ME THOUGH. Again, it's not bad, but I don't agree with the claims of it being the definitive fan mix.

[hypehat]

My personal favourite is The Alternate Brian Wilson one.... lots of little funny touches that work. The three movement thing is also incredibly well-handled.

What is this 'Alternate' mix?  It combines 60s stuff with BWPS?

No, no BWPS. That's just what it's called, somewhat misleadingly. It's 3 'movements' with a fair dose of the humour records mixed in, really different musically from BWPS. Definitely worth a look

[The Shift]

The SMiLE Deluxe fan mix by one James Nugent is a particularly reprehensible piece of nefarious work I hope I never get to hear again -  not that I've heard it already as that would be equally reprehensibly reprehensible - at least not before tomorrow (it is 11.47pm in the UK, after all).

[Wrightfan]

That Wrightfan guy is awesome 

Did the last one all by himself too...cough.

[Jay]

This is definitly the work of a depraved and deprived sick soul who obviously gets his kicks stealing from geniuses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UidK_3EIGyg

[Jay]

Let us all quote from the Holy Book, to repent for our sins:

And on the sixth day The Old Master Painter emerged from his Barnyard, with a big bag of Vega-Tables to pass on to his disciples, whom partook in the consuming of the Holy Vega-Tables. And the Vega-Tables were good. And on the seventh day The Old Master Painter rested; for the Surf was Up.

[The Heartical Don]

Let us all quote from the Holy Book, to repent for our sins:

And on the sixth day The Old Master Painter emerged from his Barnyard, with a big bag of Vega-Tables to pass on to his disciples, whom partook in the consuming of the Holy Vega-Tables. And the Vega-Tables were good. And on the seventh day The Old Master Painter rested; for the Surf was Up.

Thank you, my dear Brother, for your wise quotation. For we all are sinners, from our first days onwards. Let us think of Brother Aaron, who produced two fake tablets, with a bowdlerized version of the Ten Commandments on them, the first bootlegs known to mankind. Many, many of our ancestors replicated these fake tablets and enjoyed their contents in secret. Yes, it was the same Aaron who sculpted the Golden Calf. Our ancestors danced around it and drank merrily away, whilst chanting the first known version of 'Our Prayer', a hymn that was constructed for Holy Services, and Services only.
May we never, never fall into the despicable and horrific pit again, in which our elders long ago produced those Evil Bootlegs! Amen!

[smile-holland]

Don, I think you should stop watching The Hour of Power on Sunday...

[The Heartical Don]

Don, I think you should stop watching The Hour of Power on Sunday...

  I just p*issed myself, dear SMiLE-Holland... let's get back to normal then!

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Mommy! He said bootleg!

[GLarson432]

No...it's 'Melinda' he said bootleg.

[PongHit]

Let us all quote from the Holy Book, to repent for our sins

And don't forget to pray for surf.

[Wrightfan]

Mommy! He said bootleg!

They weren't saying bootleg, they were saying boourns!

[Jay]

Mommy! He said bootleg!

They weren't saying bootleg, they were saying boourns!

Every once in a great while, there is a posting on a messageboard that is so brilliant that words fail to respond to it. The above quote is one such statement. That is one of the funniest things I have ever read on a message board. I doubt that very many people here understand that reference, and just how hilarious it is. I tip my hat to you, sir. 

[Jay]

Don, I think you should stop watching The Hour of Power on Sunday...

  I just p*issed myself, dear SMiLE-Holland... let's get back to normal then!

I thought MY scripture parody was the funniest in this thread. Humph! *walks out of thread, tripping on his own feet*