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« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2009, 11:32:20 AM »

Well, AGD, if they record for the 18th-2oth, and then take the time off for the tour, they could indeed finish up after Thanksgiving. That's how I read the comment -- not that the recording would be continuous over that time.

I would hope that Brian spends slightly more than a month in the studio for this project.
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« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2009, 11:35:42 AM »

Yeah, I'd hope it, too, but things don't look encouraging on that point. BWPS -- tracks recorded in five days. The X-Mas and TLOS tracks were also recorded quickly, if I recall correctly. Then a month or two are taken for vocal work/tweaking. That's been the pattern, so I wonder if that's what they're planning for this time as well.
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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2009, 11:46:30 AM »

I'm actually pretty excited about this.  I was expecting a new album, but these projects open up some interesting possibilities.  I look forward to hearing the Gershwin album in particular...I've always wanted to hear Brian do more instrumental music.  He's very underrated in that area.  Too bad we'll have to wait awhile to hear these (hopefully not too long), but I think at least one of them will be worth it.
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2009, 11:48:22 AM »

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

This sounds wonderful!

This is the kind of project that I would have wished for.. for Brian Wilson !

At his age, this sounds like the kind of project that he can get  into.. something he has said he loves...

If his wife and and his handlers set this up for him, that shows real love.. and if this was all Brian's choice...

still excellent and I know that whatever the results, I'm sure that it will be done sincerely !

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« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2009, 11:49:04 AM »

Yeah, I'd hope it, too, but things don't look encouraging on that point. BWPS -- tracks recorded in five days. The X-Mas and TLOS tracks were also recorded quickly, if I recall correctly. Then a month or two are taken for vocal work/tweaking. That's been the pattern, so I wonder if that's what they're planning for this time as well.

BWPS & TLOS were worked up on the road prior to recording. Unless they've been secretly rehearsing this summer, the band are coming to this pretty cold.

Time for a discretely placed phone call, I'm thinking...
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« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 11:51:18 AM »

Yeah, I'd hope it, too, but things don't look encouraging on that point. BWPS -- tracks recorded in five days. The X-Mas and TLOS tracks were also recorded quickly, if I recall correctly. Then a month or two are taken for vocal work/tweaking. That's been the pattern, so I wonder if that's what they're planning for this time as well.

BWPS & TLOS were worked up on the road prior to recording. Unless they've been secretly rehearsing this summer, the band are coming to this pretty cold.

Time for a discretely placed phone call, I'm thinking...

BTW, don't read me wrong - I'm very excited for Brian over this: properly executed it could enhance his stature significantly. Which is why I'm hoping for 1) low level of static and 2) not a half-assed run at it.
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« Reply #81 on: October 08, 2009, 11:53:25 AM »

Are we thinking albums of Disney classics and Gershwin fragments in that megaphone he's been blessing us with for years a la GIOMH? Smiley
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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2009, 12:05:05 PM »

Andrew -- I'm actually quite pumped for it as well. I'm sure I'll enjoy the results (heck, I enjoy GIOMH, so you know how little discernment I actually possess in matters BW).

This seems like an ideal way for Brian to keep recording and keep his profile up without the stress of creating a major themed project /suite (something that "Pleasure Island," as he described it, almost seemed to parody).

But so much depends on the level of care and taste brought to the projects (both of them). And care and taste -- as we know -- are not always something Brian has consistently through projects. Frankly, I'd be pleased with something of the quality of the Christmas album, although I hope and expect better.
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« Reply #83 on: October 08, 2009, 12:11:09 PM »

Which is why I'm hoping for 1) low level of static and 2) not a half-assed run at it.


I'd guess that Gershwin's people will also have a word to say if it's not having a certain level of quality. At least when it comes to the unfinished pieces. All in all, Brian has quite some pressure but the kind he's probably much more comfortable to take than touring....
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« Reply #84 on: October 08, 2009, 12:12:47 PM »

Maybe this new album of Gershwin stuff will be an excuse for Brian to release his version of Rhapsody In Blue which has been collecting dust since 1995. Smiley
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« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2009, 12:55:21 AM »

I only hope the production is good and interesting, don't want to hear anymore attempts at trying to recreate Brians 60s sound (only done well on the Paley sessions IMO).....he should do Gershwin in a 'Beach Boys Love you' style! Cheesy

Considering my favourite BW solo album (by far) is 'Orange crate art', I hold some hope for these albums, I want to hear more interesting jazzy orientated stuff.
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« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2009, 01:06:14 AM »

Are we thinking albums of Disney classics and Gershwin fragments in that megaphone he's been blessing us with for years a la GIOMH? Smiley

I expect him to be singing in a tone similar to That Lucky Old Sun's opening track.
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« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2009, 04:36:20 AM »

Maybe this new album of Gershwin stuff will be an excuse for Brian to release his version of Rhapsody In Blue which has been collecting dust since 1995. Smiley

Nice thought, though hopefully in the context of a bonus track so-as not to detract from a body of work that will hopefully be handled by the same producer (will BW produce this as well?), and have a coherent thematic vibe running throughout*.

* Sorry, this is a bit up-its-own-arse as phrases go. I'd just like the tracks to sound like they were all recorded contemporaneously and share an atmosphere.

Oooh, I'm wishing! Dangerous!

Agree with AGD too that this could do wonders for Brian's stature and cred. It must already have boosted his self confidence, just to be asked/invited to handle such a prestigious project.  I'm chuffed for him, I really am.

I'm also excited at the prospect of this being instrumental. One of my favourite BBs moments is hearing the isolated string quartet section from "Don't Talk" that Mark included on the PS boxed set. I could handle hours-worth of similar quality stuff.

Maybe I need a cold shower...
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« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2009, 10:40:40 AM »

Sorry if this was discussed before but I can't recall it:
Was the Capitol-deal just for one album (TLOS). Such a fuss was made that I thought it was fore more projects
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« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2009, 11:41:54 AM »

I read over at Brian's board that it was, don't know if there is much truth in that.
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« Reply #90 on: October 11, 2009, 12:14:33 PM »

I don't think anyone -- Brian or Capitol -- ever said the deal was for more than the one album. I would say that in the record business, if no one says its for more than one, than it's just for the one.
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« Reply #91 on: October 11, 2009, 03:27:04 PM »

Allright. I was just wondering because of all that "Brian is finally home"-stuff. I thought it might be like Fogerty being back on Fantasy....
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« Reply #92 on: October 11, 2009, 10:12:48 PM »

Capitol/EMI have bigger problems -- like the decimation of the entire packaged music industry. I just wish Brian would go with a smaller label (like Fantasy or Anti, or any number of others) that would actually care about his longer-term career. But that argument has been made by others, with a lot more eloquence than I'm capable of right now.
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« Reply #93 on: October 12, 2009, 01:42:04 AM »

His inability to hold down a record contract is shocking, given his name is gospel to people who almost always buy music. Maybe he keeps the facepaint close to hand....?

Surely TLOS is a win-win situation for any company - Brian and Scott recording most of it at home, minimising on costs, and Brian doesn't exactly spend much time in the studio these days, so that's ok financially. Plus, it was guranteed to sell something if you throw about the words 'Wilson', 'Parks', 'song suite' and 'california' around enough... I guess the tourings the dealbreaker
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