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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2009, 10:09:10 PM »

Never mind that Van Dyke magically remembered it AFTER getting very pissed off about his portrait in American Family. And at the same time as his 'insult Mike Love' web contest. What about some context?  Undecided
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« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2009, 11:40:29 PM »

It's no secret that Lennon could be a real aresehole, it's just not pc to admit it.  On the other hand, we all know Mike's one and we love him all the more...
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2009, 07:17:10 AM »

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Mike: It should go, "Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out, They leave the West behind"

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2009, 09:16:28 PM »

Here is another one.




Interesting thread, and nice photo... Can't identify everyone there though...

I believe along with The Beatles travelled their 'wives and girlfriends'...

Anyone any ideas who accompanied Mike on his trip/stay in India?

I vauguely recall some article where Mike explains that he and his girlfriend were educated in India with respect to being vegetarians... Who would that girlfriend be...?
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2009, 09:49:41 PM »

That's weird, Mike was still married to Suzanne when he went to India.
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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 10:46:02 PM »

That's weird, Mike was still married to Suzanne when he went to India.

It's just a vague recollection, although I'm pretty sure the article had 'girlfriend' and not 'wife'...

Could have been a mistake/I could have been mistaken I suppose?  Huh

Anyone know if Suzanne travelled to India then?
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 10:54:26 PM »

It's certainly possible that Mike had a girlfriend while still married to Suzanne. It doesn't seem like anyone is with Mike in that group photo, though.
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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2009, 07:18:24 PM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.
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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2009, 07:33:25 PM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm asking a question more than stating a reason; no Beatles' historian here, but....didn't Ringo leave because he got very ill on the food; his stomach/system couldn't handle what they were cooking? And, I thought Paul had stated something to the effect that he got out of the experience everything he needed and didn't see a need to continue. Also, and I'm not sure, but wasn't it Brian Epstein's death that prompted John and George to leave?
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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2009, 08:06:11 PM »

They were all angry with the Maharishi, but I think it was mainly John. I think he was the one who convinced George to go back to london with him.
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2009, 11:32:21 PM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm asking a question more than stating a reason; no Beatles' historian here, but....didn't Ringo leave because he got very ill on the food; his stomach/system couldn't handle what they were cooking? And, I thought Paul had stated something to the effect that he got out of the experience everything he needed and didn't see a need to continue. Also, and I'm not sure, but wasn't it Brian Epstein's death that prompted John and George to leave?
Ringo liked it there but left early because he was allergic to everything or something like that. Paul had decided beforehand to stay one month and that's what he did. Epstein died the year before while they were meeting the Maharishi for the first time in Wales. George had already decided to leave the troop because they were going to another city and he wanted to go to somewhere else. He later on denied the rumours about Maharishi 'raping' some American Girl. John wanted a closure to his experience there and came back to London throwing accusations and writing Sexy Sadie.

I think the only one angry with the Naharishi was John. Ringo, Paul and George had some nice things to say about the guy in the Anthology book.
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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2009, 12:33:28 AM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm sorry, I forgot you snuck there with them hiding inside John's earlobe. My mistake.

A friend of Maharishi's said the drugs thing, and I'd probably believe them over the whole molesting thing. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the Beatles going to India and spending their time tripping balls. Sure, they might've done "meditation" but who's to say they weren't on drugs at the time?

and if the molestation thing wasn't a lie the Beets made up then I think I agree with the other theory that their manager or someone else started the rumor to get them out of there ... maybe they were too into Maharishi and considering abandoning their careers to continue their trip in India with Brown Jesus and someone needed to get them back home
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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2009, 03:16:50 AM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm sorry, I forgot you snuck there with them hiding inside John's earlobe. My mistake.
 

Yeah, that and the hundreds of contemporary interviews with John himself. Sounds real unlikely.
Plus, i know what you're going to say next, and yes,  John changed his story on a lot of things over the years, but funnily enough, not the whole Rishikesh business. Could that possibly mean that, regardless whether someone was molested or not, he left for precisely the reason he's said he did for all these years? Surely not!
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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2009, 11:00:46 AM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm sorry, I forgot you snuck there with them hiding inside John's earlobe. My mistake.
 

Yeah, that and the hundreds of contemporary interviews with John himself. Sounds real unlikely.
Plus, i know what you're going to say next, and yes,  John changed his story on a lot of things over the years, but funnily enough, not the whole Rishikesh business. Could that possibly mean that, regardless whether someone was molested or not, he left for precisely the reason he's said he did for all these years? Surely not!

This doesn't discredit the idea that the rumor was started by someone else i.e., having not really happened and that John bought it and stuck to the story he bought. Maharishi's probably too busy sticking it to cosmic yoginis than feeling up ugly tourists.
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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2009, 11:12:39 AM »

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Interesting thread, and nice photo... Can't identify everyone there though...

I believe along with The Beatles travelled their 'wives and girlfriends'...

Anyone any ideas who accompanied Mike on his trip/stay in India?

I vauguely recall some article where Mike explains that he and his girlfriend were educated in India with respect to being vegetarians... Who would that girlfriend be...?
Looks like Donovan in the middle, and Mia Farrow on the far right. Or maybe that was Mia in the middle next to Donavan...I'm not 100% sure.
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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2009, 11:30:46 AM »

I bet Donovan ruined that whole trip with his guitar. What a goofy human being he is. Hey Donovan, tell us the story about John meditating again. Pleeeeeeeease.
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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2009, 11:37:00 AM »

I think the most overplayed Donovan story is the one he tells about "Hurdy Gurdy Man", about how Jimmy Page (who didn't even actually play on the song) was supposed to be a short guitar solo, but he just kept on playing and playing and playing, this forcing Donovan to remove the verse from the song that George Harrison wrote. Donovan also claims that John Bonham and John Paul Jones played on the track (JPJ is true, Bonham is not), and that "Hurdy Gurdy Man" was part of the reason Led Zeppelin formed.
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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2009, 12:10:50 PM »

I bet Donovan ruined that whole trip with his guitar. What a goofy human being he is. Hey Donovan, tell us the story about John meditating again. Pleeeeeeeease.

What's wrong with Donovan?
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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2009, 12:14:34 PM »

I bet Donovan ruined that whole trip with his guitar. What a goofy human being he is. Hey Donovan, tell us the story about John meditating again. Pleeeeeeeease.

What's wrong with Donovan?

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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2009, 07:06:37 PM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm sorry, I forgot you snuck there with them hiding inside John's earlobe. My mistake.
 

Yeah, that and the hundreds of contemporary interviews with John himself. Sounds real unlikely.
Plus, i know what you're going to say next, and yes,  John changed his story on a lot of things over the years, but funnily enough, not the whole Rishikesh business. Could that possibly mean that, regardless whether someone was molested or not, he left for precisely the reason he's said he did for all these years? Surely not!
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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2009, 10:38:19 PM »

according to John Toblers 1977 book on the Beach Boys, which shows a picture from the same photo shoot (albeit mirrorred), from left to right:

Cynthia Lennon, Jane Asher, Macca, Donovan, Mia Farrow, George H., the Maharishi, ML, John L, and Patti Boyd.
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« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2009, 01:54:20 PM »

Here is another one.




Interesting thread, and nice photo... Can't identify everyone there though...

I believe along with The Beatles travelled their 'wives and girlfriends'...

Anyone any ideas who accompanied Mike on his trip/stay in India?

I vauguely recall some article where Mike explains that he and his girlfriend were educated in India with respect to being vegetarians... Who would that girlfriend be...?
Looks like Donovan in the middle, and Mia Farrow on the far right. Or maybe that was Mia in the middle next to Donavan...I'm not 100% sure.

I'm not Donovan afficianado, but unless he's left-handed, this image is reversed.
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« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2009, 10:16:45 PM »

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Interesting thread, and nice photo... Can't identify everyone there though...

I believe along with The Beatles travelled their 'wives and girlfriends'...

Anyone any ideas who accompanied Mike on his trip/stay in India?

I vauguely recall some article where Mike explains that he and his girlfriend were educated in India with respect to being vegetarians... Who would that girlfriend be...?
Looks like Donovan in the middle, and Mia Farrow on the far right. Or maybe that was Mia in the middle next to Donavan...I'm not 100% sure.

I'm not Donovan afficianado, but unless he's left-handed, this image is reversed.
I believe that the person in white standing next to him is Paul Mccartney. In which case you're correct....the hair is parted incorrectly.
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« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2009, 10:36:08 AM »

It's not like the Beatles didn't bring tons of drugs there anyway. That's why they left, because Maharishi was against drugs and their use of drugs in his space.

Not even close. The Beatles left because they found out that the Maharishi was having a relationship with one of the women that came along for the trip.

I'm sorry, I forgot you snuck there with them hiding inside John's earlobe. My mistake.

A friend of Maharishi's said the drugs thing, and I'd probably believe them over the whole molesting thing. I don't think it's a stretch to imagine the Beatles going to India and spending their time tripping balls. Sure, they might've done "meditation" but who's to say they weren't on drugs at the time?

and if the molestation thing wasn't a lie the Beets made up then I think I agree with the other theory that their manager or someone else started the rumor to get them out of there ... maybe they were too into Maharishi and considering abandoning their careers to continue their trip in India with Brown Jesus and someone needed to get them back home

The reason John and George are purported to have left is because Maharishi had been indulging in pleasures of the flesh; however, I have never heard it insinuated that the Maharishi was molesting or raping anybody. The fact that the three then-surviving Beatles endorsed Maharishi's Natural Law Party circa 1993, as well as the recent Paul-Ringo reunion for David Lynch's TM foundation, demonstrate the present attitude of the Beatles towards TM.

It's also worth noting that the allegations of sexual impropriety were instigated by "Magic Alex" Mardas, who had been using the Beatles as his personal bank account, and resented the potential control that the Maharishi could exercise. He was whispering in John's ear.
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« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2009, 09:43:21 AM »

To elaborate, George was very clear in the Anthology book that Maharishi never did anything...called it BS. Paul, George and Ringo did support the Natural Law party but Paul refused to run for a seat Parliament with the other two...called it ridiculous. He said Olivia eventually convinced George that it was ridiculous.
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