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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2009, 01:17:46 PM »

Slip On Through WAS a single right?

I think I remember reading of them doing it on David Frost!

But of course, I could be completely and totally wrong.
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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »

It's not David Frost.... but i can't remember what it was on. It's on get the Boot, in theory,  because i obviously don't have it angel I've heard it, and the audio quality is really poor, which is a shame. It would seem a cert to be done live, was it something to do with the track being sped up in the studio? Thus rendering it unsingable by Denny in the finished key....
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2009, 04:15:28 PM »

It's not David Frost.... but i can't remember what it was on. It's on get the Boot, in theory,  because i obviously don't have it angel I've heard it, and the audio quality is really poor, which is a shame. It would seem a cert to be done live, was it something to do with the track being sped up in the studio? Thus rendering it unsingable by Denny in the finished key....

According to the liners for Get the Boot it was performed live in 1970 on The Dennis Wolley Show
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2009, 04:15:39 PM »

How come they've never done Mount Vernon and Fairway live?  King Listening

Y'know, that's a question that's kept me awake nights.
I still say Brian should do that as an encore at his live shows---the crowd would eat it up and Brian could be the Pied Piper for one last time! Are you listening Melinda?? Grin
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2009, 04:34:20 PM »

It's not David Frost.... but i can't remember what it was on. It's on get the Boot, in theory,  because i obviously don't have it angel I've heard it, and the audio quality is really poor, which is a shame. It would seem a cert to be done live, was it something to do with the track being sped up in the studio? Thus rendering it unsingable by Denny in the finished key....

According to the liners for Get the Boot it was performed live in 1970 on The Dennis Wolley Show

Amazing to me, that I don't recall them doing this live.  Also, I've obviously never paid enough attention to those 'boot' things you guys are always talking about...  When I googled The Dennis Wolley - which is actually Wooley - Show, some of the first things listed referenced Get The Boot / Slip On Through.  Now, where's the video???
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2009, 05:19:36 PM »

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There WAS one rare live performance of "This Whole World" played sometime during the late 1980's.

It was in 1988 and they played it at multiple venues: Atlanta, NYC, and at least one other that I know of.

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2009, 11:51:48 PM »

I'd pay to ensure Deirdre & Tears In The Morning don't ever again get played live.
Why pay for something you can probably get for free?   Cheesy I think the likelihood of these being played live again are slim to none, at least by the directly-related BB bands out there.

Slightly off the topic of Sunflower live, but definitely on topic for not liking Tears In The Morning...I know that many people make a big deal about HCTN being an unwelcome interruption to the LA Light Album...I love HCTN, and think it fits in well even though it's different.  Tears, however, is like this large, horrible blemish right smack dab in the middle of an otherwise wonderful album.  I think that Sunflower would have been MUCH better off with one less track.

I agree with you about TITM (admittedly nice acronym though). Even though it sort of fits the
rest of the album production-wise, for me it is one song where Bruce's innate sentimentality
crosses the line into maudlin territory. IMO, Disney Girls is vastly superior, a perfect encapsulation of his particular brand of evocative, yearning idealism, filtered through his
individual creative lens. I like Dierdre and Nearest Faraway Place too, but TITM goes too far,
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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2009, 04:18:08 AM »

It's not David Frost.... but i can't remember what it was on. It's on get the Boot, in theory,  because i obviously don't have it angel I've heard it, and the audio quality is really poor, which is a shame. It would seem a cert to be done live, was it something to do with the track being sped up in the studio? Thus rendering it unsingable by Denny in the finished key....

According to the liners for Get the Boot it was performed live in 1970 on The Dennis Wolley Show

Amazing to me, that I don't recall them doing this live.  Also, I've obviously never paid enough attention to those 'boot' things you guys are always talking about...  When I googled The Dennis Wolley - which is actually Wooley - Show, some of the first things listed referenced Get The Boot / Slip On Through.  Now, where's the video???

That was all the information the liners gave, including the misspelled name.  The version that appears there sounds like it's slowed down and it is of very poor quality, most likely someone recorded the audio off of an old VHS
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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2009, 05:21:28 AM »

I believe it is probably an Australian TV show-if so they taped it in April-May 1970-before the album came out (but the song was already a year old)
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« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2009, 08:03:36 AM »

As I mentioned before, I think, I learned of this tape after my article on their TV apps was featured in ESQ.  In addition- I have learned that on their appearance on Happening in August 1969 they did indeed perform "Cotton Fields" as well as "Breakaway" and "Johnny B. Goode".  In the article I also stated that the footage of the Beach Boys performing "Good Vibrations" on Something Else in 1970 has not been seen since, but Alan Boyd informed me that in fact-the song accompanied a video of the group members in various settings and that this footage was incorporated in Endless Harmony-Mike meditating and on a bridge, Dennis kissing a blonde on some steps, etc...I also neglected to mention that on the May 1971 David Frost -which only survives on audio-Dennis sang "Forever" as well as "Lady".   I have another article-on TV and film apps from 1977-1998 completed and in David Beard's hands now-so it may come out in a future ESQ
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« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2009, 10:41:28 AM »

In addition- I have learned that on their appearance on Happening in August 1969 they did indeed perform "Cotton Fields" as well as "Breakaway" and "Johnny B. Goode". 

Jeez, another memory sparked!  "Happening" was one of the shows w/Paul Revere, right?  One of my first memories, hitting L.A. in August '69, was going to a taping of this show.  I remember Fred Vail almost jumping with delight when Dennis walked in, as only he & Al showed up to tape the show.  Seems to me that they lip-sync'd something, (maybe Cottenfields?), with the Raiders doing some antics behind them.  Never saw anything of it after that, though, and it is, after all, forty years ago we're talking about...   Jeez, 40 years???
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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2009, 11:11:17 AM »

It was with the Raiders....According to the TV summary ("Tonight's Programs" in the paper)-they sang "Johnny B. Goode" as a duet with Paul Revere.  Are you saying that only two BBs were there for the taping?? That is crazy-wow!
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« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2009, 11:29:26 AM »

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There WAS one rare live performance of "This Whole World" played sometime during the late 1980's.

It was in 1988 and they played it at multiple venues: Atlanta, NYC, and at least one other that I know of.

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before the fire i had a vhs tape of the after game show at yankee stadium in 1988. the song was done in that show. that video of the concert was easy to find 20 years ago. sounded good also.
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« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2009, 12:25:31 PM »

There is a live recording (a crappy audience recording, unfortionately) of This Whole World on the Surfin' Rarities Vol. 6 boot, recorded in Philadelphia in 1988.
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« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2009, 01:00:06 PM »

It was with the Raiders....According to the TV summary ("Tonight's Programs" in the paper)-they sang "Johnny B. Goode" as a duet with Paul Revere.  Are you saying that only two BBs were there for the taping?? That is crazy-wow!

No, I'm not saying it was necessarily for that taping, but yes, just 2 Boys, and what a strange duo for it to be, too!  (Welcome to L.A. huh?)  From looking at their website, it might have even been the 5 day a week show, "It's Happening", if they were doing that show in August '69, too.  (I do remember discussing this with Alan Boyd, during the creation of "Endless Harmony").  What causes me to be a little extra vague about this day is that after the taping, we retreated to American Productions, (when they were located on Ivar), where Fred screened a ton of 16mm for us, including Good Vibrations, with the fire station footage.  And I know there were lot's of things, (like Tonite Show appearances), that I never saw again after that day.
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« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2009, 01:22:25 PM »

There is a live recording (a crappy audience recording, unfortionately) of This Whole World on the Surfin' Rarities Vol. 6 boot, recorded in Philadelphia in 1988.
Someone posted a video of it on youtube...as I mentioned in the youtube thread.
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« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2009, 02:36:44 PM »

did they ever do "Our Sweet Love"... one of my favorites
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« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2009, 04:52:50 PM »

did they ever do "Our Sweet Love"... one of my favorites

One of mine, too. Almost sounds like a rewrite of "God Only Knows" to me, but then it's just so much lighter. Love Brian's easy-going background vocals and the gorgeous productions sums up everything that's so great about the whole Sunflower project. One of the group's most underrated songs.
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« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2009, 06:18:50 PM »

The youtube video from 1988 of This Whole World is back up by the way...
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« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2009, 06:26:52 PM »

The youtube video from 1988 of This Whole World is back up by the way...

Thanks for the tip - in the likely event that this clip will get removed again, you can put the link to it on www.keepvid.com and directly download the video. 
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« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2009, 07:06:58 PM »

How come they've never done Mount Vernon and Fairway live?  King Listening

Y'know, that's a question that's kept me awake nights.
I still say Brian should do that as an encore at his live shows---the crowd would eat it up and Brian could be the Pied Piper for one last time! Are you listening Melinda?? Grin

I would like that....the Fairy tale version from the box..........and Darian could make that work.  Serious.   The dom dom king-dom round thing would sound great with all of that vocal talent.....hell just do the whole piece....have scott, taylor, brian, jeff do different parts of the narrative.....would be waaaay better than the original narration....(Jack Reiley?)....what an encore!!!!!!!

Definitely Melinda!!!!
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« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2009, 11:55:17 AM »

I'd pay to ensure Deirdre & Tears In The Morning don't ever again get played live.
Tears, however, is like this large, horrible blemish right smack dab in the middle of an otherwise wonderful album.  I think that Sunflower would have been MUCH better off with one less track.


Why make the album shorter when you can just replace the large, horrible blemish with a far better track?

I put together my own version of SUNFLOWER on a CD (now on my iPod): I dropped "Tears in the Morning" and replaced it with "San Miguel."

Turned a very good album into a GREAT one!
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« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2009, 12:32:58 PM »

I think Deirdre and Tears In The Morning are excellent songs.
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« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2009, 01:48:26 PM »

I think Deirdre and Tears In The Morning are excellent songs.

I really like "Deirdre". It's not among Sunflower's best, but I certainly prefer it over "Got To Know The Woman", which is easily my least favourite song on that album. "Tears In The Morning", however... let's say it depends on the mood I'm in whether I'd want to skip it or not. It's quite enjoyable from time to time, just not a big favourite of mine.

Really there is not one single song I would want to remove from the Sunflower line-up, however, as each song perfectly represents a crucial aspect of the group's overall personality. In that very respect, there really is no other album like this in the Beach Boys' whole catalogue.
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« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2009, 02:23:51 PM »

each song perfectly represents a crucial aspect of the group's overall personality. In that very respect, there really is no other album like this in the Beach Boys' whole catalogue.

Nicely put.
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