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Re: Brianīs new Songs...
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Quote from: juggler on September 28, 2009, 12:45:20 AM
Not a problem at all. Autobiographical lyrics from Brian Wilson don't have to be his own words. The lyrics clearly reflect some knowledge that Murry had regarding Brian's mental state at the time.
That would make them biographical rather than autobiographical though wouldn`t it? And I would say that it`s far from certain that that`s what Murry was thinking about.
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Quote from: Nicko1234 on September 28, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
That would make them biographical rather than autobiographical though wouldn`t it?
No, Mike Love's "Brian's Back" and the Barenaked Ladies' "Brian Wilson" are examples of biographical songs about Brian. When, as in the case of Breakaway, Brian was the song's co-author, composer, producer and singer (at least originally) it can be safely classified as autobiographical. Do you think that all autobiographies you see at Barnes & Noble are written solely by the person named on the front?
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And I would say that it`s far from certain that that`s what Murry was thinking about.
Murry was Brian's father, for cryin' out loud. By 1969, he couldn't have been unaware of the mental problems that Brian was having.
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Going back to lyrics and music, according to copyright law the royalties are split EVENLY between the composer of the melody and the lyricist. Doesn't matter if you think one is more important than the other, legally it's a 50-50 split unless the composer and lyricist make a separate arrangement (i.e. the lyricist helped write the melody, so would be entitled to more than 50%, or the composer came up with the titles and the chorus lyrics, for example, so would get more than 50%). Lennon/McCartney split everything 50/50 no matter who came up with what, as they had previously agreed upon.
Even if the composer writes the song without lyrics and lyrics are added by someone later, that lyricist is given a 50% royalty stake in the song publishing and mechanical royalties (interestingly, even if only the lyrics are purblished, the composer gets 50% of the publishing royalties).
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Quote from: juggler on September 28, 2009, 08:21:48 AM
Murry was Brian's father, for cryin' out loud. By 1969, he couldn't have been unaware of the mental problems that Brian was having.
that's why I find it so touching
Murry may have been a jerk but jerks don't sit down to write songs with their son. it almost seems like Murry is channeling Brian's emotions a little bit, or trying to help him out in a way. plus, Murry also had his share of depressed episodes so it's not like he doesn't know the territory. how does Brian reflect back on Break Away these days? he likes it, right? must've been a good experience with Murry that day. maybe there was no arguing or bad words spoken, just love. maybe they went for lunch and talked about everything. it's sweet.
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Quote from: juggler on September 28, 2009, 12:45:20 AM
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Quote from: juggler on September 27, 2009, 07:11:27 PM
I can't shed any light on any of that, but it's a hell of a song. And it's probably one Brian's most autobiographical songs ever ("I heard voices in my head", "the more I thought of it, I had been out of it", "found out it was in my head", etc.).
Small problem - Murry wrote those lyrics.
Not a problem at all. Autobiographical lyrics from Brian Wilson don't have to be his own words. The lyrics clearly reflect some knowledge that Murry had regarding Brian's mental state at the time.
Agree. "Caroline, No" comes right to mind. Did Asher once say something to the effect that Brian had more to do with lyrics, and he (Asher) more to do with melodies on
Pet Sounds
, than people thought? "Caroline, No" and others clearly seem to be linked to thoughts and feelings of Brian's around that time. And didn't Brian often offer titles to start with?
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In this video Brian says that he wrote MAD and i took him a week.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=42599209
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