In regards to the Dennis and Mike relationship

[Sound of Free]

Denni,

I had never heard that Dennis had sex with Brian's wife. It might have happened; other people on the board know more than I do.

But Brian did have sex with his own wife's sister.

[DonnaK]

 

[urbanite]

How do people know the details of the Beach Boys' personal lives with such certainty? 

[Ed Roach]

Too many!  They were far too public with their dirty laundry, (especially the Wilson's),
and if you were close with them, you couldn't avoid knowing more than you'd care to know.

[urbanite]

Ouch!  Ed, how about posting another one of your great photos.  I feel like it's traveling back in time to see some of your candid shots of the group.

[Jason]

Apparently, Dennis wasn't the only one who went around with Marilyn, at least according to Rocky Pamplin. Rocky also claimed she was with Carl at one point.

[dennyschild]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

For Sure. Did he ever truly love anyone or everyone.

[Pretty Funky]

It's like they say....The family that plays together, stays together!

[dennyschild]

Apparently, Dennis wasn't the only one who went around with Marilyn, at least according to Rocky Pamplin. Rocky also claimed she was with Carl at one point.

OMG ...Did they all swing.

[dennyschild]

It's like they say....The family that plays together, stays together!

A family affair.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

What Jon says is absolutely true.  I got to witness some of the last real close days between these two, though, near the end days of 1968.  Sometime early in '69 an event occured, (over a woman), that would drive a permenant wedge between them.  Add the events of the next couple of years, (Dennis' involvement with The Family - followed by their arrests - his development as a singer/songwriter, and his getting cast in a movie), and I think Mike had a hard time excepting Dennis' emerengence.  Always thought that had something to do with why he thought Brian was worth saving, while Dennis...

And yet... after that Mike wrote some great lyrics for Dennis - "Sound Of Free", "Pacific Ocean Blues" and above all "Only With You". Go figure.

How much you want a bet that he would remember very well if they were hits? In fact, If POB the album went platinum, I am sure that Mike would start 'remembering' other songs that he came up with a comma or something and try to gain 50% credit for it. Then he would claim that his comma is what made the song so succesful.

[DonnaK]

Amen to that!

[smile-holland]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

For Sure. Did he ever truly love anyone or everyone.

Denni, quoting from memory here...

Dennis had a big heart. And if he loved someone he did it for the full 200%. As in everything he did in his life (and I also mean the positive aspects of his personality). If you're able to find books on Dennis (and there are several around, albeit often out of print) you'll read several examples on them. From his second wife, Barbara, it was often said that she was the best thing that ever happened in his life. But Dennis never had inner piece in his heart, there was always turmoil in his life. And it seemd he also enjoyed that fast life, at least from the outside it seemed so. And that contradiction must have slowly ruined him.

Again, based on from what I've read and seen.

[Andrew G. Doe]

How do people know the details of the Beach Boys' personal lives with such certainty? 

Brian stated that in a UK music magazine interview, out of the blue, oh, three-four years ago. I snorted tea all over the page. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

For Sure. Did he ever truly love anyone or everyone.

I think if you had to point at one, it would be Barbara - most of his friends say she was the best thing that ever happened to him (with Harmony a close second).

[Shady]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

For Sure. Did he ever truly love anyone or everyone.

I think if you had to point at one, it would be Barbara - most of his friends say she was the best thing that ever happened to him (with Harmony a close second).

Not Christine McVie? 

[Dove Nested Towers]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

For Sure. Did he ever truly love anyone or everyone.

I think if you had to point at one, it would be Barbara - most of his friends say she was the best thing that ever happened to him (with Harmony a close second).

Not Christine McVie? 

Hey, they did supposedly write some beautiful music together. Weren't they even supposed to perform it live at one point, but couldn't get it together? I'm sure they were co-enablers at the very least.

[Sheriff John Stone]

How much you want a bet that he would remember very well if they were hits? In fact, If POB the album went platinum, I am sure that Mike would start 'remembering' other songs that he came up with a comma or something and try to gain 50% credit for it. Then he would claim that his comma is what made the song so succesful.

Wasn't the POB/Bambu release last year greeted by unanimous praise, not just by Dennis/BB fans, but by almost all music publications. I also remember it winning end-of-the-year awards in some polls for reissue of the year. I don't remember reading or hearing anything from Mike Love trying to get any recognition or credit for the songs he contributed lyrics to. Do you?

[Amy B.]

Denni,

I had never heard that Dennis had sex with Brian's wife. It might have happened; other people on the board know more than I do.
But Brian did have sex with his own wife's sister.

I remember reading that quote from Brian about Marilyn and Dennis. I think Marilyn has denied it. And for what it's worth, Brian is not always the most reliable source. But yeah, the affair between Brian and Marilyn's sister did happen. 

[Wilsonista]

How much you want a bet that he would remember very well if they were hits? In fact, If POB the album went platinum, I am sure that Mike would start 'remembering' other songs that he came up with a comma or something and try to gain 50% credit for it. Then he would claim that his comma is what made the song so succesful.

Wasn't the POB/Bambu release last year greeted by unanimous praise, not just by Dennis/BB fans, but by almost all music publications. I also remember it winning end-of-the-year awards in some polls for reissue of the year. I don't remember reading or hearing anything from Mike Love trying to get any recognition or credit for the songs he contributed lyrics to. Do you?

"Hey man, that hit 30 years too late. And how many records did it sell, huh? How does it compare to the platinum-selling smash that we recently had? You know, a little song called 'Kokomo' ? I don't even remember my dead cousin asking me to add my postive and positively groovy lyrical musings to his downer-inducing songs. J'ai Guru Dev!"

[Dove Nested Towers]

 I think that that's a little too dark for a laughing smiley after all. Great photo, though.