In regards to the Dennis and Mike relationship

[The Heartical Don]

My thanks go out to Jon Stebbins and Ed Roach for correcting me on the personality clash/drugs issue. There's always something to learn here.

[Loaf]

My thanks go out to Jon Stebbins and Ed Roach for correcting me on the personality clash/drugs issue. There's always something to learn here.

I'd also like to add my thanks to the fact that we are really lucky to have so many knowledgeable people who post on this board, willing to share their time and reminiscences with other fans.

This is really what keeps the BBs alive, more so than record labels and even the still-touring incarnations of Wilsons/Loves/Jardines.

Thanks!

[The Heartical Don]

My thanks go out to Jon Stebbins and Ed Roach for correcting me on the personality clash/drugs issue. There's always something to learn here.

I'd also like to add my thanks to the fact that we are really lucky to have so many knowledgeable people who post on this board, willing to share their time and reminiscences with other fans.

This is really what keeps the BBs alive, more so than record labels and even the still-touring incarnations of Wilsons/Loves/Jardines.

Thanks!

Wot he said.

[Outie 315]

 Donna K. - Sounds like Mike Love got ya with the "Stink Eye".......

[The Heartical Don]

 Donna K. - Sounds like Mike Love got ya with the "Stink Eye".......

Hehe - yes, the Lovester has this 'Medusa-like' quality. In around 1976, he cast that eye on his cousin Brian. As a result, Brian got paralysed and was bed-ridden for 8 years straight.

[Outie 315]

 T H D - He went all the way to India to learn the "Stinky Eye" sutra and has traveled
 the globe sending it.

 
 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Although Mike remembers writing the lyrics for "Sound Of Free," he told me he has no memory of co-writing "Only With You" and "Pacific Ocean Blues."

The lyric to "POB" was written, and phoned into the studio, five hours hours after Dennis played the track to Mike down the phone. So Mike said in an interview.

[Outie 315]

 Mr. Doe - True of False

 In 1978 a six month intensive “Stink Eye” training course was given in Switzerland.


 God Bless Ya
 Outie 315

[DonnaK]

My feelings as to why I think Mike had alot to do with Dennis' solo career being put on the back burner have to do with the fact that Mike was jealous of Dennis emerging as a solo artist, while he couldn't, (hey I HAVE heard Mike's country album...yuck), all the attention from the gals to Dennis and not Mike, and Mike being a jackass in general. I'm sure there are many reasons for Dennis' downfall, but I feel Dennis was always searching for the respect and love he never could feel deep down. That, in a nutshell will drive anyone down the wrong path. You get berated by your father long enough, you start believing it. I don't care if Mike did help with some lyrics, maybe he wanted to ride on Dennis' tailcoat or tail feathers, or whatever. Who knows

I personally feel the gals that married Mike must've done so for the money. What other possible reason could there have been?

Can you tell I don't personally like the guy? I even through out the program that he signed and didn't give it a second thought!

Just being an armchair psychiatrist here....IMHO.

[Amanda Hart]

Seriously though, you can't blame Mike for having a distaste for Dennis.  How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

[Outie 315]

And who went to bat for Mike when all that wacky stuff went down?

 Bruce Johnston!!!!!!!!!!

[DonnaK]

Seriously though, you can't blame Mike for having a distaste for Dennis.  How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

She could have said NO. It's not like he raped her.......

[Andrew G. Doe]

Seriously though, you can't blame Mike for having a distaste for Dennis.  How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

She could have said NO. It's not like he raped her.......

Trying to wrap my mind around the concept of any woman saying "no" to Dennis Wilson... nope, can't do it. 

Brings to  mind the comment by a totally deadpan Brian a few years ago re: Dennis - "he had intercourse with many women... Mike's wife, my wife..."

[Aegir]

How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

And your daughter?

[Cam Mott]

Seriously though, you can't blame Mike for having a distaste for Dennis.  How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

She could have said NO. It's not like he raped her.......

How would that let Dennis off the hook of being despica......oh......you're kidding......

[Andrew G. Doe]

How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

And your daughter?

Small point of order - Mike has never admitted that Shawn was his daughter, in public at least.

And Dennis did marry her. 

[Sheriff John Stone]

My feelings as to why I think Mike had alot to do with Dennis' solo career being put on the back burner have to do with the fact that Mike was jealous of Dennis emerging as a solo artist....

I don't care if Mike did help with some lyrics, maybe he wanted to ride on Dennis' tailcoat or tail feathers, or whatever.

Let's see if I can get this right. Mike didn't want Dennis to be successful, but he wanted to ride on Dennis' tailcoat or tail feathers? Is that possible?

Can you elaborate how Mike "had a lot to do with Dennis' solo career being put on the back burner"?

And, why don't you care if Mike DID (emphasis is mine) help with some lyrics? Dennis did.
 

[DonnaK]

Although Mike remembers writing the lyrics for "Sound Of Free," he told me he has no memory of co-writing "Only With You" and "Pacific Ocean Blues."

The lyric to "POB" was written, and phoned into the studio, five hours hours after Dennis played the track to Mike down the phone. So Mike said in an interview.

I was just listening to "Live at Carnegie Hall -1972" in the car, and at the end of "Only With You" , which by the way, sounds fantastic, Carl said "Thank you. That was written by Dennis and Michael"

Take it for what it's worth!

[dennyschild]

Seriously though, you can't blame Mike for having a distaste for Dennis.  How civil could you be to someone who had sex with your wife?

She could have said NO. It's not like he raped her.......

Trying to wrap my mind around the concept of any woman saying "no" to Dennis Wilson... nope, can't do it. 

Brings to  mind the comment by a totally deadpan Brian a few years ago re: Dennis - "he had intercourse with many women... Mike's wife, my wife..."

My mom didn't say no

It's hard to belive he was with his cousin's wife, thats one thing but, your brothers wife..Did he really fool around with brians wife, or is that a rumor with no proven facts.

[dennyschild]

By the way..what year did this happen with mikes wife.

I have a younger sister and can't imagine being with her husband, it's not right.

I know all about shawn, she was very young, a teenager when dennis got with her. I wonder if he had a sexual disorder.

[DonnaK]

Denni,

I think that it's a fair thing to say that Dennis was like any other man when it came to sex, but he just couldn't wait until he was out of a relationship with one woman to go onto the next. But, then again, many men are like that. You have to remember, during the time he was flitting from one flower to another,  there was this notion going around at the time called Free Love. Now there's these things called STD's and AIDS.

[MBE]

Denni,

I think that it's a fair thing to say that Dennis was like any other man when it came to sex, but he just couldn't wait until he was out of a relationship with one woman to go onto the next. But, then again, many men are like that. You have to remember, during the time he was flitting from one flower to another,  there was this notion going around at the time called Free Love. Now there's these things called STD's and AIDS.

There have been std's around decades before Dennis was born. Again I love the guy but he had no scruples whatsoever when it came to sex. Sure Mike was pretty bad too, but not to the frankly distrubing level Dennis was. I do think he had a problem, and by 1983 the free love thing  had been over for a decade.

[MBE]

By the way..what year did this happen with mikes wife.

I have a younger sister and can't imagine being with her husband, it's not right.

I know all about shawn, she was very young, a teenager when dennis got with her. I wonder if he had a sexual disorder.

I think it happened in 1968-69.

[DonnaK]

Let's just say Dennis loved the ladies and had many, many, many.............

[Shady]

Well, really, let's be frank. Dennis was a man-whore. Seriously.

Anything was fair game