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« on: June 17, 2009, 01:51:59 AM »

Is it Brian channeling his old self, albeit temporarily, or is it Jeffrey Foskett channeling Brian? I've heard both. Any official word? What do you hear?
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 01:56:26 AM »

I guess it's Brian on a good day.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2009, 01:56:45 AM »

Adrian Baker?
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2009, 02:23:36 AM »

Good question.  I always assumed it was Brian, but now you have me thinking.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2009, 02:29:40 AM »

Good question.  I always assumed it was Brian, but now you have me thinking.

I certainly hear Brian in: 'I Need Her, But You Need Him', but I doubt very much if the falsetto is him too. My bet is on some stand-in, hence Baker.
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2009, 02:48:37 AM »

Definitely not Baker - he was long gone by this time. I know Jeff has said it's him, but there's a certain Brianesque tone about it. To these ears, anyway. My best guess is it's Jeff shading Brian.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2009, 02:51:33 AM »

I can hear Brian singing a lower part of the vocal arrangement. His voice clearly is all over the song.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2009, 05:30:07 AM »

Hi, there was a quote from Terry Melcher in one of McParlands Books, he said something like he's proud of Getcha Back  because it was the last time Brian sang falsetto on a record.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2009, 05:35:39 AM »

Hi, there was a quote from Terry Melcher in one of McParlands Books, he said something like he's proud of Getcha Back  because it was the last time Brian sang falsetto on a record.

Cheers, but that strikes me as odd - as far as I know, Brian had shed his bad habits by then for years... if that were true, he could easily still have filled whole albums with that falsetto.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2009, 06:00:28 AM »

This is from the Good Vibrations box liner notes:

"So the group, prodded by CBS, began work with then-hot (Culture Club) producer Steve Levine. The result, a 1985 release simply titled The Beach Boys, was an album that suffered from not-strong enough songwriting and overprogrammed production. Included on the box from that disk is “Getcha Back” (Billboard #26), a Mike Love/Terry Melcher collaboration. With a nice group intro and Brian singing up top where he belongs, it feels like a Beach Boys record."

Doesn't make it true, but that's what it says.

 
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2009, 06:08:26 AM »

If you listen to "Getcha Back" with headphones on, the falsetto sounds very much like Brian. Not 1965 Brian, but older Brian.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2009, 07:03:37 AM »

If you listen to "Getcha Back" with headphones on, the falsetto sounds very much like Brian. Not 1965 Brian, but older Brian.

For the longest time I didn't believe it was Brian, but the closer I listened, I became convinced.  It's certainly processed, but Brian seemingly did channel his old voice on that one.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2009, 07:12:07 AM »

This is from the Good Vibrations box liner notes:

"So the group, prodded by CBS, began work with then-hot (Culture Club) producer Steve Levine. The result, a 1985 release simply titled The Beach Boys, was an album that suffered from not-strong enough songwriting and overprogrammed production. Included on the box from that disk is “Getcha Back” (Billboard #26), a Mike Love/Terry Melcher collaboration. With a nice group intro and Brian singing up top where he belongs, it feels like a Beach Boys record."

Doesn't make it true, but that's what it says.

Liner notes to one of the Brother 2fers say Brian didn't make the Dutch trip.  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2009, 07:40:08 AM »

This is from the Good Vibrations box liner notes:

"So the group, prodded by CBS, began work with then-hot (Culture Club) producer Steve Levine. The result, a 1985 release simply titled The Beach Boys, was an album that suffered from not-strong enough songwriting and overprogrammed production. Included on the box from that disk is “Getcha Back” (Billboard #26), a Mike Love/Terry Melcher collaboration. With a nice group intro and Brian singing up top where he belongs, it feels like a Beach Boys record."

Doesn't make it true, but that's what it says.

Liner notes to one of the Brother 2fers say Brian didn't make the Dutch trip.  Grin

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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2009, 08:38:58 AM »

To my ears it sounds like Jeff Foskett shadowing Brian.  I hear Brian in there somewhere, but the prominent voice sounds more like Fosky to me.   I hear BW quite a bit in the other background vocals and of course the "I'll leave her, and you'll leave him" bit on the fade.

On the other hand, BW was still doing falsettos into the late 80s, witness "Heavenly Bodies" from the Usher sessions

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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2009, 09:10:02 AM »

To me, the falsetto on "Getcha Back" sounds like the older, cleaned-up-by-Landy Brian, which is why I've never questioned it being Brian.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 09:44:14 AM »

Anyone who questions the idea of Brian being able to do falsetto should check out the solo performance he gave of Surfer Girl back in 1991 at somebody's party.  It used to be on youtube, but I'm having trouble finding it now.  Brian sings his original falsetto part, and sings it well.
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 09:54:32 AM »

For that matter, check out "she says that she needs me" on Imagination from 13 years later. In optimal studio conditions, Brian could still do a decent falsetto. That said, "Getcha Back" is unique for how darned high it is -- and how peculiar BW sounds (if indeed it's Brian).
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2009, 10:05:52 AM »

Brian can still sing more than acceptable falsetto. When he wants to.
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 11:46:07 AM »

I'm almost certain Jeff is doing it on this live version...and you can hear the difference between it and the studio (which I believe in my heart is Brian)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E0lRlXq3tc
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 11:50:39 AM »

Brian can still sing more than acceptable falsetto. When he wants to.
He nails it on "Live Let Live" from TLOS. Granted, he'll probably never do it half as good on stage again, but it's there on wax.
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 12:11:53 PM »

This came up a while back.  I thought I had read it was Foskett and I had become convinced it was.  I still think so.

But someone here , supposdly an authority, absoultely insisted it was Brian.

 I also read they programmed the drums to have a Dennis sound.  So I assumed they were going all out for an authentic old school BB sound on that single, whatever it took.  And it sort of worked.
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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2009, 12:58:25 PM »

Is it Brian channeling his old self, albeit temporarily, or is it Jeffrey Foskett channeling Brian? I've heard both. Any official word? What do you hear?

Does Jeff Foskett have a credit on this album?  I've always read that it was Brian singing the high part. 
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 01:36:05 PM »

Jeff's BB vocal credits, from his own website:

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2009, 01:47:38 PM »

Jeff's BB vocal credits, from his own website:

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Thought I read somewhere that BW and JF are the only BBs on the track....
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