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Question: Rate The Beach Boys Love You
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« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2006, 10:22:05 PM »

Mike sings along on the "You my pretty darling" parts on "I'll Bet He's Nice" and just starts hollering and making all kinds of noises with excitement at the bridge. He seems to just LOVE this song! At the end he says "Sh-t! That is a mother-fu-ker!"

There is one thing that always confused me.

The exact same quote (not just the same words, the same recording!) can be found at the end of "Carry Me Home" on the old California Feeling bootleg LP.  "Sh-t! That is a mother-fu-ker!"

So was that comment copied by the bootleggers and attached to a recording where it doesn't belong historically? And which is correct? Dumb Angel Rarities has this comment at the end of Carry Me Home on volume 14, but not at the end of I'll Bet He's Nice on volume 4.
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« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2006, 10:38:36 PM »

Mike then comments at the end, "That's a nice spiritual song." His tone of voice doesn't sound sarcastic, but I guess he could be.

It's all in the pause. "That's a nice......spiritual song". I don't think he was too impressed.
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« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2006, 10:40:19 PM »

Mike sings along on the "You my pretty darling" parts on "I'll Bet He's Nice" and just starts hollering and making all kinds of noises with excitement at the bridge. He seems to just LOVE this song! At the end he says "Sh-t! That is a mother-fu-ker!"

There is one thing that always confused me.

The exact same quote (not just the same words, the same recording!) can be found at the end of "Carry Me Home" on the old California Feeling bootleg LP.  "Sh-t! That is a mother-fu-ker!"

So was that comment copied by the bootleggers and attached to a recording where it doesn't belong historically? And which is correct? Dumb Angel Rarities has this comment at the end of Carry Me Home on volume 14, but not at the end of I'll Bet He's Nice on volume 4
 

Belongs on the demos - I had a tape of them back in the early 80s, pre-CDs.
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« Reply #128 on: February 08, 2006, 05:30:43 AM »

Well, this sounds all great. Maybe someone can PM me too, if he has any infos.... Cool
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« Reply #129 on: February 08, 2006, 06:17:46 AM »

I think all you need to know about the BB's reaction to "Love You" is summed up in the little blip on the liner sleeve of the LP.

There's a full page picture of Brian at his Birthday party (or somewhere similar) with Marilyn hugging him and whispering in his ear... Brian has this huge grin on his face and below it, it says

"TO BRIAN WHOM WE LOVE WITH ALL OUR HEARTS.

We wish to express our appreciation, and acknowledge your willingness to create and support totally the completion of these songs.
We thank you for sharing yourself and your music with us, and all those who love you as well.
An Unspeakable joy being with you in your expression of the music you put out there for everyone.
Brian, we feel honored and grateful, and we love you.

Carl, Dennis, Michael, and Alan"
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« Reply #130 on: February 08, 2006, 09:21:52 AM »

Well, he didn't play "Johnny Carson" (I wish he had!). One of the reasons "Mona" might not have gone over as well as the others (and we aren't even sure it didn't) is because Brian messed up every five seconds as he was playing it.

Well I mean, whenever he did.  I'm not privy to the demos that Andrew and Ian have.  I didn't even know the tapes Andrew has mentioned existed.  I was just curious as to how the guys accepted this stuff completely, but wouldn't give him the support he needed for SMiLE.
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« Reply #131 on: February 08, 2006, 09:23:23 AM »

I would love to know the extent to which Brian participated in the creation of Sail On Sailor. I read it as it was a collaboration between Brian, Tandyn Almer, and Ray Kennedy in 1971-72, which was left unfinished. Van Dyke Parks then added a middle-eight and structured the song while Jack Rieley added some new lyrics (presumably the original lyrics were Almer's). Unless Ray Kennedy provided some of the music, I don't think Brian's participation in Sail On Sailor is noteworthy.

I don't know, Brian seems to be the only one sharp enough to come up with those changes, and to me it sounds like he also employs some of the same  type of chord sequences and melody on "Good Timin", but of course he could have learned that from SOS.

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« Reply #132 on: February 08, 2006, 12:17:01 PM »

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I was just curious as to how the guys accepted this stuff completely, but wouldn't give him the support he needed for SMiLE.

Well, they did give him support for Smile, just not the kind Brian needed.
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« Reply #133 on: February 08, 2006, 12:42:18 PM »

I played Love You for my mom last night. She found it very, very disturbing.

"I like the early stuff better"

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« Reply #134 on: February 08, 2006, 12:56:05 PM »

I think all you need to know about the BB's reaction to "Love You" is summed up in the little blip on the liner sleeve of the LP.

There's a full page picture of Brian at his Birthday party (or somewhere similar) with Marilyn hugging him and whispering in his ear... Brian has this huge grin on his face and below it, it says

"TO BRIAN WHOM WE LOVE WITH ALL OUR HEARTS.

We wish to express our appreciation, and acknowledge your willingness to create and support totally the completion of these songs.
We thank you for sharing yourself and your music with us, and all those who love you as well.
An Unspeakable joy being with you in your expression of the music you put out there for everyone.
Brian, we feel honored and grateful, and we love you.

Carl, Dennis, Michael, and Alan"

Ron, I can't believe you brought up this picture! I was just gonna mention it on the other thread about Beach Boys' pictures, because I have a question about it.

This picture has been bothering me from the day I bought the album 29 years ago. What is Brian holding in his hands. It is mysteriously blacked out. Is it simply a pack of cigarettes or is it something more, say, illegal?
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« Reply #135 on: February 08, 2006, 01:35:28 PM »

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« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2006, 10:37:07 PM »

It's funny you brought up that picture. It shows you how long people have been trying to get Brian to perform again and make music. Everyone keeps holding out hope for him to make a comeback. I wonder if he has actually expressed a desire to make music or if he just nods and smiles when they bring his career up.
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« Reply #137 on: February 08, 2006, 10:43:18 PM »

It's funny you brought up that picture. It shows you how long people have been trying to get Brian to perform again and make music. Everyone keeps holding out hope for him to make a comeback. I wonder if he has actually expressed a desire to make music or if he just nods and smiles when they bring his career up.

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« Reply #138 on: February 08, 2006, 10:59:02 PM »

I was just curious as to how the guys accepted this stuff completely, but wouldn't give him the support he needed for SMiLE.

Maybe Brian had learned with the past and instead of asking the band to rerecord for months and one million times the same unrelated music snippets, he actually showed the group how the songs went before they went to the studio.
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« Reply #139 on: February 08, 2006, 11:47:38 PM »

It's funny you brought up that picture. It shows you how long people have been trying to get Brian to perform again and make music. Everyone keeps holding out hope for him to make a comeback. I wonder if he has actually expressed a desire to make music or if he just nods and smiles when they bring his career up.

Actually expressed a desire to make music?  Uh... well, he wrote all those songs.  That expresses a desire, doesn't it?  Maybe somebody forced him to record, and maybe somebody forced him to tour, or perform, but how in the hell could they force him to write "Saturday morning in the City" or whatever?  Of course he has a desire to make music, it's what he does. 
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« Reply #140 on: February 09, 2006, 08:27:43 AM »

Mike then comments at the end, "That's a nice spiritual song." His tone of voice doesn't sound sarcastic, but I guess he could be.

It's all in the pause. "That's a nice......spiritual song". I don't think he was too impressed.

He didn't say it like that.  He just said "its a nice, spiritual song."  There wasnt any emphasis or delay before "spiritual"
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« Reply #141 on: February 12, 2006, 11:38:09 AM »

Just been listening to these demos and I think "Bet He's Nice" is better as this piano-based tune then the crazy electronic one on Love You.
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« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2006, 11:39:43 AM »

I agree, Rerun!
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« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2006, 11:42:03 AM »

Synth bass does not equate to "crazy electronics", man.
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« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2006, 11:43:05 AM »

That's what I was thinkin'!
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« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2006, 11:47:31 AM »

Synth bass does not equate to "crazy electronics", man.

I stand by my statement!
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« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2006, 11:48:24 AM »

Just been listening to these demos and I think "Bet He's Nice" is better as this piano-based tune then the crazy electronic one on Love You.

You don't know sh*t about electronic music, then.
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« Reply #147 on: February 12, 2006, 11:53:42 AM »

Just been listening to these demos and I think "Bet He's Nice" is better as this piano-based tune then the crazy electronic one on Love You.

You don't know merda about electronic music, then.

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« Reply #148 on: February 12, 2006, 11:54:29 AM »

Electronic music is a division of classical music, Love You is a rock album. Electronic music is difficult, what's difficult about Love You?
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« Reply #149 on: February 12, 2006, 11:56:22 AM »

Electronic music is a division of classical music, Love You is a rock album. Electronic music is difficult, what's difficult about Love You?

What the H are you talking about?  Are you trying to say there aren't electronic elements on Love You?  Those are real instruments?  Well, hot damn!
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