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« on: June 06, 2009, 07:43:55 AM »

Is on Forever, that accordian part at 1:58 playin Brian's vocal part from the original...wasn't that Van Dyke Parks?  Is his accordian parts heard anywhere else on the album?
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2009, 08:04:56 AM »

Same song, different part, actually right after your favorite part. It's when Carl comes in with his incredibly emotional singing.

Despite Brian, Carl, and Al not contributing any songs to Summer In Paradise, it's still one of Carl's best albums - vocally.

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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2009, 08:11:06 AM »

Is his accordian parts heard anywhere else on the album?

Yes, he´s also on "Lahina Aloha".
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2009, 08:17:43 PM »

I thought the best part was...







...the lead-out groove on side 2.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2009, 09:59:25 PM »

I thought the best part was...







...the lead-out groove on side 2.  Wink

That is, provided, you could get past the lead-out groove on side 1, which is the far worse side. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2009, 10:18:00 PM »

It sounded a bit better on vinyl as far as sterility goes but a bad performance is a bad performance.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2009, 10:35:20 PM »

I thought the best part was...

...the lead-out groove on side 2.  Wink

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2009, 11:14:25 PM »

I just bought this album two days ago, and I just finished sitting through it for the very first time.  Yes, the production is awful.  However, the songwriting on the new tunes is decent, and the arrangements of the cover songs isn't bad either.  I think this album might have been regarded a lot more highly if they had just used real instruments on it.

The song Summer In Paradise, however, quite possibly the worst lyrics ever written.  This even tops "Smart Girls".



Way back when well our master plan
Was havin' fun fun fun as America's band
Well we came out rockin' with Rhonda and Barbara Ann
Singin' of surf and sand
Now when we look back over all the fun we had
If our lifestyle's over now it sure is sad
We gotta get back to livin' without a care
Give me sunshine water and an ozone layer
Paradise is a state of mind
Where Mother Nature nurtures and man is kind
We need a change now wouldn't it be nice
If we could bring back summer
Get us back our summer
Summer in paradise
(Paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
They chop down the forests
And in their haste leave a trail of destruction
And toxic waste is leavin' no one safe
In their home or their habitat
Can't let it go like that
Too much consumption and too much greed
When you consider all the people
That are livin' in need
Interdependence in this world is a natural fact
And we're all under attack
It's the eve of destruction or so they say
But mankind doesn't have to go that way
If we all get together we can make things right
And we can bring back summer
Get us back our summer
Summer in paradise
(Paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
Summer in paradise
Surfers recycle now don't you know
Like evryone from California to Kokomo
We're gonna keep on rockin'
And raisin' world consciousness
We gotta fix this mess
Looked in the future and what I saw
Was a world in harmony with natural law
There's trouble now but it will be alright if we can
Bring back summer
Get us back our summer
Summer in paradise
(Paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
Summer in paradise (paradise)
Summer in paradise
(Paradise)
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 11:15:55 PM »

I'll second the thought on Carl's part on Forever.  But I've always been partial to Carl's part on Hot Fun In The Summertime too.  Mike's bow-bow-bow-diddip is cool too.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2009, 11:22:39 PM »

Despite the title track's admittedly cheesy lyrics, I still love the song.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2009, 11:53:44 PM »

Dr. Tim took the words out of my mouth too.
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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2009, 12:16:46 AM »

It's not just the production that bothers me   but the engineering. My god, everything sounds so *plastic*.

I love Strange Things Happen, though, esp. the guitar sound for the solo.
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2009, 02:18:28 AM »

What is the best part of Summer In Paradise??

You don't have to listen to it!!!
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2009, 04:14:25 AM »

it's still one of Carl's best albums - vocally.

Sheriff, you say that about almost every album, can't we just say that Carl was always at his best? Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2009, 04:51:23 AM »

I like Carl's voice best from 66-73. 1980 was pretty damn good though live.
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2009, 05:10:56 AM »

it's still one of Carl's best albums - vocally.

Sheriff, you say that about almost every album, can't we just say that Carl was always at his best? Tongue

I know...I miss him, though Sad...

MBE, while I really enjoy Carl's work from 1966-73 (it's hard to believe how FEW lead vocals he had before that time), I feel that he actually matured as a vocalist. I hear an increased power of his voice; in addition to the ballads he was able to really belt out the rockers, too. Due to some of the shaky material on the later albums, I feel he carried L.A. (Light Album), Keepin' The Summer Alive, and The Beach Boys (1985). It's almost like the group knew it too, and said, "hey, take the ball and run with it." Just think what those later albums would've sounded like without Carl....

EDIT: I also wanted to mention Carl's solo albums around that period. Yeah, the material wasn't too great on those either, but, despite that, his vocal work on those albums is tremendous. That must've been frustrating for Carl, because those solo albums did not do his talent justice, although I kinda liked Youngblood.
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« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2009, 06:30:22 AM »

I know...I miss him, though Sad...

Same here Sheriff, same here... Undecided
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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2009, 07:15:45 AM »

The song Summer In Paradise, however, quite possibly the worst lyrics ever written.  This even tops "Smart Girls".

No, can't be, that would be Summer Of Love

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2009, 08:14:03 AM »

Best part: the whole of "Lahaina Aloha"
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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2009, 08:23:44 AM »

Best part: the whole of "Lahaina Aloha"

Oh, yes, love that song; my favorite on the album, actually. Mike and Carl had developed a nice little give and take (a la "Kokomo"), much like Mike and Brian did on the early hits. 
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« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2009, 12:25:27 PM »

Way back when well our master plan
Was havin' fun fun fun as America's band
Well we came out rockin' with Rhonda and Barbara Ann
Singin' of surf and sand
Now when we look back over all the fun we had
If our lifestyle's over now it sure is sad
We gotta get back to livin' without a care
Give me sunshine water and an ozone layer ...

 Shocked  Mike wrote those lyrics I guess?  UGH.  It's like a parody song, to illustrate how lame they became in later years.  Stuff like this makes it embarrassing to be a fan.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2009, 12:35:22 PM »

I don't care for some of the lyrics either, but I think "Summer In Paradise" is a decent song. It reminds me of "Keepin' The Summer Alive", which ironically, or maybe not ironically, many fans seem to like.
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2009, 01:12:04 PM »

I'd also say Lahaina Aloha.  I don't despise the album, even though songs like Summer of Love and the new version of Surfin' are incredibly poor.  Most of the other have redeeming qualities somewhere.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2009, 01:48:37 PM »

I think the album as whole is better than it's frequently described as, even though it's not great.

Lahaina Aloha would be a great addition to one of the next summer-hits-compilations. Great tune.
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2009, 01:55:19 PM »

Summer in Paradise is nowhere near as bad as its reputation. I stand by the 3/5 I gave it in the review section on the board. It ranks higher than MIU and KTSA on my personal list, with KTSA the absolute nadir.
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