Brian's production tricks: things over looked in BWPS and many Smile playlists

[sockittome]

I just think it's a lame to say "BWPS is better than 66/67 because it's finished"

 

Who said that?

[Ganz Allein]

Personally from all the quotes I've read from the principle participants, my hunch is that Brian collected the songs together into groups that grew into the movements, and also had final say in what to keep and what to trash i.e. He Gives Speeches. He also was responsible for the fantastic segue from Wonderful into Look, he remembered the missing melody to Worms, and he wrote some new melodies such as the verse bit to Child, and the melody to Blue Hawaii. I think the more complex work of sequencing the internal structure of songs, and organising the entire piece to make it flow aesthetically and work conceptually was probably more the work of VDP and Darian, but even then I may be short-changing Brian in this assumption. I think he's far more capable creatively than many people give him credit. My point though, is my hunch of who did what probably works out at a fairly even 3 way split, 33% Darian, 66% Brian/VDP which makes me happy to consider BWPS the composition (not the studio recording) as predominately the work of the original composers (and this is not taking into consideration the original work they did in 66/67 - just the new stuff. Of course this all just my hunch, and utterly worthless as a result, but it means I can put  my copy on the turntable and think Wow! Brian and VDP finished Smile and it sounds great!

I've read the interview where Darian says that Brian told him to junk HGS. But are there any interviews in which Darian, VDP, or Brian himself say that Brian actually composed new music for BWPS?

[buddhahat]

Personally from all the quotes I've read from the principle participants, my hunch is that Brian collected the songs together into groups that grew into the movements, and also had final say in what to keep and what to trash i.e. He Gives Speeches. He also was responsible for the fantastic segue from Wonderful into Look, he remembered the missing melody to Worms, and he wrote some new melodies such as the verse bit to Child, and the melody to Blue Hawaii. I think the more complex work of sequencing the internal structure of songs, and organising the entire piece to make it flow aesthetically and work conceptually was probably more the work of VDP and Darian, but even then I may be short-changing Brian in this assumption. I think he's far more capable creatively than many people give him credit. My point though, is my hunch of who did what probably works out at a fairly even 3 way split, 33% Darian, 66% Brian/VDP which makes me happy to consider BWPS the composition (not the studio recording) as predominately the work of the original composers (and this is not taking into consideration the original work they did in 66/67 - just the new stuff. Of course this all just my hunch, and utterly worthless as a result, but it means I can put  my copy on the turntable and think Wow! Brian and VDP finished Smile and it sounds great!

I've read the interview where Darian says that Brian told him to junk HGS. But are there any interviews in which Darian, VDP, or Brian himself say that Brian actually composed new music for BWPS?

I either read (or it's in the Beautiful Dreamer doc) that Brian would bring the new pieces he'd written and Darian would ask him if it is a new or remembered vintage melody and Brian would just respond that it was inevitable. I might be remembering this incorrectly but I'm sure it was something like that and did suggest that Brian was going off and composing stuff independently for BWPS.

[Dove Nested Towers]

Personally from all the quotes I've read from the principle participants, my hunch is that Brian collected the songs together into groups that grew into the movements, and also had final say in what to keep and what to trash i.e. He Gives Speeches. He also was responsible for the fantastic segue from Wonderful into Look, he remembered the missing melody to Worms, and he wrote some new melodies such as the verse bit to Child, and the melody to Blue Hawaii. I think the more complex work of sequencing the internal structure of songs, and organising the entire piece to make it flow aesthetically and work conceptually was probably more the work of VDP and Darian, but even then I may be short-changing Brian in this assumption. I think he's far more capable creatively than many people give him credit. My point though, is my hunch of who did what probably works out at a fairly even 3 way split, 33% Darian, 66% Brian/VDP which makes me happy to consider BWPS the composition (not the studio recording) as predominately the work of the original composers (and this is not taking into consideration the original work they did in 66/67 - just the new stuff. Of course this all just my hunch, and utterly worthless as a result, but it means I can put  my copy on the turntable and think Wow! Brian and VDP finished Smile and it sounds great!

I've read the interview where Darian says that Brian told him to junk HGS. But are there any interviews in which Darian, VDP, or Brian himself say that Brian actually composed new music for BWPS?

I either read (or it's in the Beautiful Dreamer doc) that Brian would bring the new pieces he'd written and Darian would ask him if it is a new or remembered vintage melody and Brian would just respond that it was inevitable. I might be remembering this incorrectly but I'm sure it was something like that and did suggest that Brian was going off and composing stuff independently for BWPS.

Inevitable? That's an odd word for Brian to use. Meaning that whatever he newly composed would
be a natural final evolution or finished version of the music for that section of the album?