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« on: January 06, 2009, 10:38:07 AM »

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone had ever come up with any personalized tracklists/playlists for any of the Beach Boys albums. I'm particularly interested in playlists for the records from "Smiley Smile"-"Surf's Up," when it seems like their albums were a real hodge-podge of different recordings (i.e. with some "SMiLE" tracks thrown in). But my request is that you can only use songs that were either on the actual album (for example, "All I Wanna Do" on "Sunflower") or recorded/demoed for that album but unused ("San Miguel" on "Sunflower"). I'd also ask that your playlists don't contain any greater number of songs than were actually on that record, such as how "Surf's Up" had ten tracks.

Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 10:52:36 AM »

and for tomorrow's homework...

What about a :"new" BB's album rounding up ONLY WORTHY solo tracks, stray releases and others that could form a respectable come-back album.

I've these in mid so far:

BW:

Midnight's Another Day
Southern California
This Song Wants to Sleep WIth You

AJ:
California Energy Blues
Califonia Saga (from the ESQ One in A Million CD)
Papa Loved Momma

DW:
Love Remember Me
Tug of Love
Album Tag SOng
Cocktails

BJ:
Erm...

ML:
Cool Head, Warm Heart (perhaps... undecided)

CW:
Hurry Love
If I Could Talk to Love
Givin' You Up


I'd like to have the potential to add tracks by Dave, Ricky, Blondie et al but don't have their repertoires.


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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 11:19:34 AM »

Hay coco, apparently my answers weren't good enough for you?

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 11:30:32 AM »

Hey, runners! I'm just getting some outside advice.  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 04:34:21 PM »

Whenever this topic comes up, I pull out MIU. So, if you've seen this before, scroll on....

While 15 Big Ones and Love You were not, should I say, complete successes, they did give fans their money's worth - quantity-wise - with 15 and 14 songs respectively. Then, unfortunately, MIU dipped to only 12 songs. I believe, with just the addition of 2 songs, "Good Timin" and "Our Team", which were available, MIU would've improved by a full grade. This is my alternative MIU:

SIDE A

1. She's Got Rhythm
2. Peggy Sue
3. Wontcha Come Out Tonight
4. My Diane
5. Come Go With Me
6. Hey Little Tomboy
7. Sweet Sunday Kind Of Love

SIDE B

8. Good Timin'
9. Kona Coast
10. Belles Of Paris
11. Pitter Patter
12. Matchpoint Of Our Love
13. Winds Of Change
14. Our Team
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 04:52:36 PM »

Hey, runners! I'm just getting some outside advice.  Smiley

Haha, I know - mine wasn't any good anyways, I just didn't except to see you here.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 04:58:19 PM »

And, an alternative sequence for Sunflower. I think it flows better, both musically and lyrically. What do you think?

SIDE A

1. Add Some Music To Your Day
2. Got To Know The Woman
3. Slip On Through
4. Our Sweet Love
5. Forever
6. Deidre

SIDE B

7. Tears In The Morning
8. At My Window
9. Cool Cool Water
10. All I Wanna Do
11. This Whole World
12. It's About Time
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 05:36:43 PM »

Surf's Up:  there should be six songs per side (the only reason there were five was because Dennis withdrew his)

Side One:
Long Promised Road
San Miguel
(Lookin' at Tomorrow) - eliminate if you insist on five tracks per side
Big Sur (Landlocked version)
Sound of Free
Don't Go Near the Water

Side Two:
Surf's Up
Feel Flows
Disney Girls
4th of July
'Til I Die
Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again (hope this gets out of the vault sometime!  Until then, A Day in the Life of a Tree can go between Disney Girls and 4th of July).
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 05:51:30 PM »

And, an alternative sequence for Sunflower. I think it flows better, both musically and lyrically. What do you think?

SIDE A

1. Add Some Music To Your Day
2. Got To Know The Woman
3. Slip On Through
4. Our Sweet Love
5. Forever
6. Deidre

SIDE B

7. Tears In The Morning
8. At My Window
9. Cool Cool Water
10. All I Wanna Do
11. This Whole World
12. It's About Time


Really interesting sequencing here, Sheriff. Any other alternate tracklists? (Say, for "Smiley Smile" or "Wild Honey"?)

Surf's Up:  there should be six songs per side (the only reason there were five was because Dennis withdrew his)

Side One:
Long Promised Road
San Miguel
(Lookin' at Tomorrow) - eliminate if you insist on five tracks per side
Big Sur (Landlocked version)
Sound of Free
Don't Go Near the Water

Side Two:
Surf's Up
Feel Flows
Disney Girls
4th of July
'Til I Die
Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again (hope this gets out of the vault sometime!  Until then, A Day in the Life of a Tree can go between Disney Girls and 4th of July).

Just noticed this one, too, Bicyclerider. Once I finish listening through Sheriff's proposed "Sunflower" retooling, I'll give this a listen.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 10:52:26 AM »

I realise the dates don't quite work out, but WTF...
Personalised/fantasy...

Light Album (a strong album - songs about California and the ocean giving way to songs about love):

01   It's a Beautiful Day
02   California Feelin'
03   Santa Ana Winds
04   Down the Coastline/Song of the Whale
05   Don't Fight the Sea
06   Full Sail
07   Sumahama
08   Good Timin'
09   Thank You Baby
10   Baby Blue
11   Love Surrounds Me
12   Angel Come Home
13   Go and Get That Girl

MIU (a 20/20 for the 70s):

01   River Song
02   Pitter Patter
03   Country Pie
04   Pacific Ocean Blues
05   Winter Symphony
06   Winds of Change
07   Sherry, She Needs Me
08   I Write The Songs
09   Still I Dream of It
10   Sweet Sunday Kinda Love
11   Lines
12   My Diane

Love You - as is!

15 Big Rock 'n' Roll Ones

01   Rock and Roll Music
02   Chapel of Love
03   Talk to Me/Tallahassee Lassie
04   Palisades Park
05   Shake, Rattle and Roll
06   Blueberry Hill
07   Peggy Sue
08   Runnin' Bear
09   Mony Mony
10   Sea Cruise
11   Come Go With Me
12   On Broadway
13   A Casual Look
14   In The Still of the Night
15   Just Once in My Life

Somebody on this board (SJS?) suggested a summer-is-fun type album from the various tracks that were around from 76-78.  Here's my selection - 15 Little Ones - although I'm a little reluctant to include Susie Cincinnati...

01   Woncha Come Out Tonight
02   It's Okay
03   Susie Cincinnati
04   Back Home
05   Kona Coast
06   It's Trying to Say
07   That Same Song
08   Shortenin' Bread (the earlier version, of course)
09   She's Just Out To Get You
10   Had to Phone Ya
11   Matchpoint of Our Love
12   Almost Summer
13   Hey Little Tomboy
14   She's Got Rhythm
15   How's About A Little Bit
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 06:34:40 PM »

An alternate sequence for The Beach Boys Love You:

SIDE 1

1. Let Us Go On This Way
2. Mona
3. Roller Skating Child
4. Let's Put Our Hearts Together
5. Good Time
6. Honkin' Down The Highway
7. I Wanna Pick You Up

SIDE 2

8. Johnny Carson
9. The Night Was So Young
10. I'll Bet He's Nice
11. Solar System
12. Airplane
13. Ding Dang
14. Love Is A Woman

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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 08:10:31 PM »

I've done a coupla these, I did a real good one for the Brian is Back era of 1976-77, but I don't have it with me now. I'll post it tomorrow. I do have my fanmix of All Summer Long; chronologically it may be a little off, but I for one don't care!:

SIDE ONE:
1. I Get Around
2. All Dressed Up for School
3. Be True to Your School (Single Mix)
4. Drive-In
5. Little Honda
6. All Summer Long
7. Do You Remember

SIDE TWO:
8. Carl's Big Chance
9. Wendy
10. Girls on the Beach
11. Hushabye
12. We'll Run Away
13. NOT SURE-ANY IDEAS?
14. Don't Back Down

Makes for a heck of an album!

I just remembered I kinda did a Beach Boys Folk Album once, went something like this, heavy on the Al Jardine I know:

1. California Saga-Big Sur
2. California Saga-Breaks of Eagles
3. California Saga-California
4. Santa Ana Winds
5. Lookin at Tomorrow
6. Long Promised Road (pioneer saga)
7. The Trader

8. Add Some Music to Your Day
9. Cottonfields (single mix)
10. Country Air (?)
11. Take a Load off Your Feet, Pete
12. Good Timin'
13. Hold On Dear Brother
14. California Feelin (can't quite explain why this one--always felt like a soul/folk tune to me, anyway)

You have to be creative, I guess...
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 08:25:33 PM »

I just remembered I kinda did a Beach Boys Folk Album once, went something like this, heavy on the Al Jardine I know:

1. California Saga-Big Sur
2. California Saga-Breaks of Eagles
3. California Saga-California
4. Santa Ana Winds
5. Lookin at Tomorrow
6. Long Promised Road (pioneer saga)
7. The Trader

8. Add Some Music to Your Day
9. Cottonfields (single mix)
10. Country Air (?)
11. Take a Load off Your Feet, Pete
12. Good Timin'
13. Hold On Dear Brother
14. California Feelin (can't quite explain why this one--always felt like a soul/folk tune to me, anyway)

Where is "The Times They Are A-Changin"? Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2009, 11:04:34 AM »

I think, on reflection, regardless of the appearance of Good Time on Love You, Susie Cincinnati belongs on a two disc Sunflower and should be replaced by Go and Get That Girl, leaving LA with 12 tracks.

Another good one would be Winds of Change:


California Feelin'
Santa Ana Winds
Down the Coastline/Song of the Whale
Don't Fight the Sea
Full Sail
Pitter Patter
Winds of Change

Good Tiimin'
Angel Come Home
Thank You Baby
Love Surrounds Me
Sumahama
Baby Blue
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 01:05:20 PM »

Anyone have any alternate tracklist ideas for "Wild Honey"?
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2009, 02:04:23 PM »

I just remembered I kinda did a Beach Boys Folk Album once, went something like this, heavy on the Al Jardine I know:

1. California Saga-Big Sur
2. California Saga-Breaks of Eagles
3. California Saga-California
4. Santa Ana Winds
5. Lookin at Tomorrow
6. Long Promised Road (pioneer saga)
7. The Trader

8. Add Some Music to Your Day
9. Cottonfields (single mix)
10. Country Air (?)
11. Take a Load off Your Feet, Pete
12. Good Timin'
13. Hold On Dear Brother
14. California Feelin (can't quite explain why this one--always felt like a soul/folk tune to me, anyway)

Where is "The Times They Are A-Changin"? Shocked
Yeah, yeah, right right...
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »

15 Big Ones was the first "new" Beach Boys' album I ever bought, so it will always have a soft spot with me. Yeah, you had to work a little bit to enjoy it; it was enjoy a song or two, sit through a clunker, enjoy another song or two, sit through another clunker. Remember, those were the days of tonearms, no remote controls. It started to get a little rough by the middle of Side 2, right around "A Casual Look" and "Blueberry Hill". I always hung on, though, for "Back Home". Anyway, when it came out on CD, I could rectify the problem. This is my alternative sequence for 15 Big Ones:

SIDE 1

1. Rock And Roll Music
2. Palisades Park
3. A Casual Look
4. Everyone's In Love With You
5. It's OK
6. Susie Cincinnatti
7. In The Still Of The Night

SIDE 2

8. TM Song
9. That Same Song
10. Blueberry Hill
11. Had To Phone Ya
12. Talk To Me
13. Back Home
14. Chapel Of Love
15. Just Once In My Life
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2009, 01:43:28 PM »

Surf's Up:  there should be six songs per side (the only reason there were five was because Dennis withdrew his)

Side One:
Long Promised Road
San Miguel
(Lookin' at Tomorrow) - eliminate if you insist on five tracks per side
Big Sur (Landlocked version)
Sound of Free
Don't Go Near the Water

Side Two:
Surf's Up
Feel Flows
Disney Girls
4th of July
'Til I Die
Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again (hope this gets out of the vault sometime!  Until then, A Day in the Life of a Tree can go between Disney Girls and 4th of July).

Wow, THAT would have made for a killer album!  I like the album already, but your sequence/song choices would have probably made it a classic.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2009, 02:21:19 PM »

I've never been totally happy with a BB comp. I've put together.  I don't even think I could do a box set in under seven discs. 

I do like the notion of expanding 15 Big Ones into 30 Big Ones just covering the best of the 15 BO era, released and unreleased, with a few choice oldies from previous and later lps.  A true BB oldies cover album.

Keeping straight the release dates versus original version recording dates is a very tedious exercise.   This first got out of control with 20/20 and seems to have gone on for the next 8 or so years.
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 02:52:10 PM »

I decided to do my own 1969-70 "What If" compilation that I call Add Some Music.  I'm sure many of you have done something similar.  I love it.  It flows wonderful and it's great to have the Brian stuff in there.  For some reason I was hesitant to put on Break Away, it feels a little out of place, and Soulful Old Man Sunshine kind of does too - but I decided to leave them.  I left off Back Home because I don't really have a great early version of it, and Carnival would detract from it.  One cool moment is the end of Tears into Cottonfields which have that echoey, distant sound to them.

Add Some Music To Your Day
San Miguel
Good Time (original mix)
Our Sweet Love
Lady (original)
Deirdre
Susie Cincinnati (original mix)
All I Wanna Do
Slip On Through
Loop de Loop (original mix)
Celebrate The News
Games Two Can Play
Tears In The Morning
Cottonfields (single version)
When Girls Get Together
A Time To Live In Dreams
This Whole World
Break Away
Forever
I Just Got My Pay
It's About Time
H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (original mix)
At My Window
Got To Know The Woman
Soulful Old Man Sunshine (original mix)
4th of July
Cool, Cool Water

Curious what you think and if I've left anything off that you might disagree with. 
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2011, 03:07:46 PM »

"4th of July" is a 1971 recording.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 03:18:31 PM »

"4th of July" is a 1971 recording.

A Time To Live In Dreams is a 1968 recording.
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 04:02:17 PM »

I'm at work, so going by memory here for my own recent SURF'S UP recompilation:

Side 1:
Sound of Free
Long Promised Road
HELP is On the Way
4th of July
Barbara
Disney Girls

Side 2:
Feel Flows
Welfare Song
Day in the Life of a Tree
Til I Die
Surf's Up

So obviously, side 2 remains the same, I think, while side 1 is mostly 'new'. And yes, I would love to add "Burlesque" and "WIBN2LA" if only we could get them...

The only 'bump' in this lineup is Disney Girls, which still sounds a little too MOR for my tastes, though I do like the middle 8.

Any other "Surf's Up" lineups out there?
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 04:57:39 PM »

"4th of July" is a 1971 recording.

A Time To Live In Dreams is a 1968 recording.
I know, a couple of questionable choices, but I figured what the hell.  Dreams could have been used on a late 1970 release, and I like 4th of July a lot, so I threw it on, but historically I guess it shouldn't be on this.
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 08:59:32 PM »

I haven't re-configured any albums (other than SMiLE  Grin), but when I have a hankerin' for some post-SMiLE Brian Wilson, this is the comp I made up to scratch that itch:

01. Heroes And Villains (Stereo Single Version) (Hawthorne, CA)
02. Vegetables (Stereo Mix) (Hawthorne, CA)
03. Wind Chimes (Smiley Smile)
04. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter (Smiley Smile)
05. Wonderful (Smiley Smile)
06. Whistle In (Smiley Smile)
07. Darlin' (Wild Honey)
08. Aren't You Glad (Wild Honey)
09. Let The Wind Blow (Stereo Remix) (Hawthorne, CA)
10. I'd Love Just Once To See You (Wild Honey)
11. Cool Cool Water (Good Vibrations box)
12. Can't Wait Too Long (Wild Honey bonus track, edited to match box set version)
13. Friends [with false start] (Friends)
14. Wake The World (Friends)
15. Passing By (Friends)
16. Busy Doin' Nothin' (Friends)
17. Diamond Head (Friends)
18. Sail Plane Song (Endless Harmony Soundtrack)
19. I Went To Sleep (20/20)
20. Time To Get Alone (20/20)
21. Break Away (Friends & 20/20 bonus track)
22. Games Two Can Play (Good Vibrations box)
23. H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (Good Vibrations box)
24. Add Some Music To Your Day (Sunflower)
25. Good Time (The Beach Boys Love You)
26. This Whole World (Sunflower)
27. 'Til I Die (Endless Harmony Soundtrack; edited to match Brian's live version)
28. Fairy Tale Music (Good Vibrations box)
29. It's Over Now [speed corrected] (Good Vibrations box)
30. Still I Dream Of It (Good Vibrations box)

It just barely fits on a single CD, and it tells the "story" I want. I love this music just as much as the Today/Summer Days/Pet Sounds era music -- maybe more.
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