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Question: Rate Hawthorne CA
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« on: December 26, 2005, 11:51:05 AM »

Discuss, review and rate Hawthorne, CA, released May 2001.

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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2005, 11:52:18 AM »

Great Smile demo stuff, cool unreleased tracks and proof that Wild Honey could be remastered and released to sound great (as opposed to flat, as it does to me as it is). Good album.
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005, 01:22:01 PM »

A fine compilation. Better for developing a bigger appreciation of the band. A Time To Live In Dreams is enough proof that this album deserves a 4 or higher (it got a 4 from me).
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2005, 01:28:23 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2005, 11:39:11 AM »

a real treat when it arrived...great to have in the home archive......some of it doesn't hold up to repeated listening.... there are enough solid gems in there to edit it down to a good single disc for repeated listening...

I'd go right out and buy Hawthorne 2 if it were released
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2005, 06:01:43 AM »

I will admit it -- this one let me down.  With all of the stuff in the vaults from the 70's languishing, I did not need the Surfin USA backing track.  Some essential stuff mixed with some fluff IMO.  The last few tracks from the 70's left me wanting more of that.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2005, 09:45:58 AM »

Awesome set. I've read reviews from people complaining about how Capitol continues to churn out CD's with the engineers playing with faders which constitute a release. I say: keep it coming!! If that's what it takes to release a few oddities with the engineer's whimseies... let it be done!! Couldn't live without Time To Live In Dreams, Lonely Days, extended Vegetables, et al. Where's my clean take of the BB's River Song? I want to hear this in fine fidelity!
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2005, 09:55:55 AM »

It may not be possible.  Brad Elliott once reported that the BB version we have was taken from a cassette dub of the in-progress master as it was in 1974.  This was edited/changed for the final release, so parts on that dub were wiped. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2005, 10:01:12 AM »

That's when you put one of those disclaimers on the CD back cover like the ones you see on archival Elvis releases.

"Every effort has been made for superior sound quality. However, priority has been given to historic content."
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2005, 11:12:14 AM »

Except he said "fine fidelity" which to me implies from a master tape source.  Which doesn't exist.  Clean up the cassette if you wish, it still ain't fine fidelity.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2006, 12:35:06 AM »

But if it's better quality than what's on California Feeling, I'll take it! I love Denny's little vocal snippet at the intro... "I was born into the city life..." Awesome!
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2006, 07:37:16 AM »

Hawthorne seems to have had a history; when it was suposed to come out with the Best of the Brother years (BB great hits vol 3), it was to come with an additional disc with interview items and songs that were featured in BB An American Family (not on the greatest hits comps), and Hawthorne supplied that; but like the movie, Hawthorne stops in the early 70s, why?
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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2006, 05:05:24 AM »

Don't care about the remix stuff but love the alt takes and new songs. Great if edited.
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2006, 10:27:41 AM »

Just hate th remix stuff but love the alt takes and new songs. Great if edited.

I tend to agree ... Most (though not all) of the remixes simply don't work, for me anyway. "Heroes and Villains" on this set is one glaring example ... I give the set a 4 overall.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2006, 12:00:40 PM »

fantastic album! breakaway is amazing
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2007, 06:15:53 AM »

I really love this collection. I just listened to it today on a surround sound system and it is fantastic. I disagree with some people, I really love the stereo remixes. I dont like them better (except Let The Wind Blow) but they give the song a new lease of life and I really enjoy them. I agree though that this set doesnt go into the 70's enough. Would've been real nice to see some of that material uncovered. I love the alternate versions of Break Away & Time To Get Alone. The previously unreleased songs are also great (A Time To Live In Dreams & Lonely Days). I also like the backing track for Good To My Baby with my favourite being Be With Me. Man what an incredible yet spooky song. That string arrangement is incredible. The highlight for me however is the a capella mixes. They are breathtaking. Kiss Me Baby is gorgeous, Can't Wait Too Long simply beautiful, the others are nice too but Forever is my favourite. I think I like this better than the actual version. It is incredible. How these guys blended their voices that beautifully is beyond me. There is some things which I wish were different (such as I wish the Sail On, Sailor backing track went the whole way through without the vocal ending) but all-in-all a fantastic collection of rarities, remixes etc..
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2007, 03:48:44 PM »

Definite 5 from me. For "A Time To Live In Dreams" alone its worth a 5.

Besides I often find myself listening to the vocals only "Kiss Me Baby" over and over and over again, Brian-style.   Cool Guy
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2007, 02:08:18 PM »

I give this album a 10
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 11:38:44 PM »

Is this album out of print? Was just ordering CDs and I noticed the only one available in my neck of the woods was a Japanese import(with two extra songs.) It wasnt TOO pricey, but twice as much as Lucky Old Sun(which is running about 34 bucks in these parts.).
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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 08:45:44 PM »

I gave it a 4. It brings back fond memories of 2001 when I first purchased this thing. Highlights for me: "A Time To Live In Dreams" and stereo mixes of "Let The Wind Blow", "Vegetables" and "Heroes And Villains". Interesting that a lot of it had been booted on Deep Sea Treasures and Harmony Friends.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »

I finally found a  copy of this on e-bay--had to import it from Hong Kong!

There must be a word for the pleasure hearing new Beach Boys mixes etc. gives.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2010, 06:44:51 PM »

Is this album out of print? Was just ordering CDs and I noticed the only one available in my neck of the woods was a Japanese import(with two extra songs.) It wasnt TOO pricey, but twice as much as Lucky Old Sun(which is running about 34 bucks in these parts.).

EMI has deleted Hawthorne along with several other BB's titles due to poor sales and the overall demise of the CD........... get em while you can
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2010, 07:46:51 PM »



EMI has deleted Hawthorne along with several other BB's titles due to poor sales and the overall demise of the CD........... get em while you can

That's a drag. "Hawthorne" was one of the first BB CD's I ever had. In fact, it was "Hawthorne" that made me a dreaded Brian Wilson die hard.
What other titles have gone out of print?

You can still get them on itunes, yes?
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 08:53:29 PM »

I will admit it -- this one let me down.  With all of the stuff in the vaults from the 70's languishing, I did not need the Surfin USA backing track.  Some essential stuff mixed with some fluff IMO.  The last few tracks from the 70's left me wanting more of that.
I agree. I myself would have preferred more unreleased material. I don't care much for remixes or backing tracks. The Sail On Sailor backing track, for example. I would have wanted to hear an alternate take of the song instead.  It would have been nice if they would have deleted a song or two and ended the set with something like We Got Love, or Carry Me Home.
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 09:16:06 PM »

Is this album out of print? Was just ordering CDs and I noticed the only one available in my neck of the woods was a Japanese import(with two extra songs.) It wasnt TOO pricey, but twice as much as Lucky Old Sun(which is running about 34 bucks in these parts.).

EMI has deleted Hawthorne along with several other BB's titles due to poor sales and the overall demise of the CD........... get em while you can
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