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Alex
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Quote from: Awesoman on September 29, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: ascrodin on September 27, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: lance on September 27, 2008, 01:21:53 PM
But it rocks. They come from different traditions, different influences(other than Chuck Berry).
The only people who may have Dylan beaten or are on par with him in the lyric department, IMO, are Van Dyke Parks, Jack Reiley, Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies, and Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel. I've always thought Dylan should write lyrics for Brian, even if it's only for one song.
Jack Reiley??? Barenaked Ladies? Seriously, none of these people you mention even hold a candle to Dylan's lyrics. Have you ever even listened to Dylan other than "Blowin' In The Wind"?
Maybe I'm just trying to delude myself because I'm tired of always hearing about how great Dylan is/was.
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Disagreements? Work 'em out.
Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Quote from: ascrodin on September 29, 2008, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: Awesoman on September 29, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Quote from: ascrodin on September 27, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: lance on September 27, 2008, 01:21:53 PM
But it rocks. They come from different traditions, different influences(other than Chuck Berry).
The only people who may have Dylan beaten or are on par with him in the lyric department, IMO, are Van Dyke Parks, Jack Reiley, Steven Page of Barenaked Ladies, and Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel. I've always thought Dylan should write lyrics for Brian, even if it's only for one song.
Jack Reiley??? Barenaked Ladies? Seriously, none of these people you mention even hold a candle to Dylan's lyrics. Have you ever even listened to Dylan other than "Blowin' In The Wind"?
Maybe I'm just trying to delude myself because I'm tired of always hearing about how great Dylan is/was.
Dylan
is
great; nothing wrong with that. No harm done if he's not your taste; but to deny his profound impact on popular music is absurd. The same could be said for Brian Wilson.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table.
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Quote from: Luther on September 29, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table.
I agree that Dylan had a profound impact on popular music, but he is not untouchable! Guess what, inferiority is highly subjective! Neither of our opinions really mean much in the long run, but I'm going to stand by mine because I'm a stubborn asshole. And gospel needs to ALWAYS be challenged!!!
And yes, I realize this thread has gone wayyyy off-topic, I apologize for that.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Quote from: ascrodin on September 29, 2008, 11:25:12 PM
Quote from: Luther on September 29, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
Stop challenging gospel. Opinions are allowed, but impotent. The songwriters you prefer are inferior. If you insist on liking them, we will smile, pat your head and excuse you to the kids' table.
I agree that Dylan had a profound impact on popular music, but he is not untouchable! Guess what, inferiority is highly subjective! Neither of our opinions really mean much in the long run, but I'm going to stand by mine because I'm a stubborn butthole. And gospel needs to ALWAYS be challenged!!!
And yes, I realize this thread has gone wayyyy off-topic, I apologize for that.
No man, Dylan is at the top. Maybe one day you will hear this. Seriously, it's all about the Dylan. I was just having a conversation about this today. He was definitely the most influential amongst his peers, and his talent is so multi-faceted it wouldn't be right to try and summarize them.
Side note: Streaming Bootleg Series 8 -
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95047293
Also, TLOS is a good album
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Chalk me up for Dylan. He's awesome. Find "Jokerman" on Youtube. Or anything early, like "Only A Pawn In Their Game" or "Hard Rain". Gospel doesn't always need to challenged, not for it's own sake. You do it because you feel it, not just to be an irreverent gunslinger. Waits is also a brilliant lyricist. And Robert Hunter, too.
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Jack freaking Reiley vs. Dylan??? And I thought that standing for the non-Wilsons in the band was tough.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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you can't deny the dylan. just listen to
blood on the tracks
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lyrically he's basically king. he's like t.s. eliot.
but let's see him write a piece of music like "cabinessence"
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Quote from: art rush on September 30, 2008, 08:47:16 AM
you can't deny the dylan. just listen to
blood on the tracks
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lyrically he's basically king. he's like t.s. eliot.
but let's see him write a piece of music like "cabinessence"
Agreed...Dylan is probably hands down the best lyricist ever in rock music. That is where his influence was felt. Musically though, someone like Brian wipes the floor with him, easily.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Makes you wonder what might result if Dylan wrote lyrics for Brian...
Probably a total disaster but you never know...
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Quote from: absinthe_boy on September 30, 2008, 10:16:42 PM
Makes you wonder what might result if Dylan wrote lyrics for Brian...
Probably a total disaster but you never know...
I'd love to hear that "total disaster", though, if it were to ever happen.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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Quote from: absinthe_boy on September 30, 2008, 10:16:42 PM
Makes you wonder what might result if Dylan wrote lyrics for Brian...
Probably a total disaster but you never know...
I doubt they'd work with four hands on a piano.... Brian would write the same kind of songs he's been writing, and Dylan would set lyrics on it. Like the Wilson/Parks The Waltz. Judging by the supremely overrated and overhyped Bacharach / Costello colaboration, this could be a Brian release that would atract a new audience.
At least Bob wouldn't write about how "he used to call the shots around here" and the sorts.
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Re: TLOS: any comments from Mike, Al or Bruce yet?
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You can't ask questions about the greatness of Bob Dylan because he has 'God on his side'!
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