Great Voices in Music

[Emily]

I think Al has a great voice. 

Yes, everybody says it except NOLA BB fan. Even his fellow BBs members think so.


Please see my edit of the original post. Oh my I feel awful at the implication that Al doesn't have a great voice when I think he does. He did a great job at the concert I saw last month.
I'm in tears now. Will stop posting until I can think and write more coherently

Nola, please don't worry. No one has listed everyone they think is a great singer. Not mentioning someone can not be considered an insult! I didn't mention Al either. Doesn't mean I don't like his voice.
It's totally cool.

[RangeRoverA1]

When it comes to the Beach Boys, all of them were great singers but when it comes to voices I'd say Brian Wilson (until the mid 70s) and of course Carl Wilson.

Could you say the difference between "great voice" & great singer"? Tried to think like you, re-read this post many times - still don't get it. Explain.

[Rocker]

When it comes to the Beach Boys, all of them were great singers but when it comes to voices I'd say Brian Wilson (until the mid 70s) and of course Carl Wilson.

Could you say the difference between "great voice" & great singer"? Tried to think like you, re-read this post many times - still don't get it. Explain.

Well, you can have a great voice but not a good technique. Or you can have a very good technique but just don't have the voice.
In the '64/5-'70 periode it seemed that Brian had almost everything. Off the top of my head I don't remember a bad or weak performance by him during those years. Carl really cought up the more he had to overtake Brian's role. But all in all, I wished that Carl had taken just a couple of professional singing lessons because sometimes on stage his voice got kinda "thin" at moments imo. Some breath control techniques could have solved that I guess.
But as I said, I think all of the guys were great, so that comes on a high standard for not trained musicians. The guys all could take a lead, sang very much on key, bring a natural individuality to their singing and I guess I don't have to mention what incredible things they were capable of in harmony singing.

[RangeRoverA1]

Thank you. Actually, BBs weren't the target, the bit in your post that made me ask you question was: "...were great singers but when it comes to voices". I didn't think till now there's any difference between saying "... is great singer" & "... is great voice". OK, what is bottom line if we speak generally - great voice is better than great singer? Singer is about technique but their voice is nothing special & voice is about being gifted with unique voice? What will you say?

[Rocker]

OK, what is bottom line if we speak generally - great voice is better than great singer?

I don't think you can give a general statement. Each person has his/her individual strengths and it's different from case to case

[RangeRoverA1]

I don't think you can give a general statement. Each person has his/her individual strengths and it's different from case to case

Individual strengths you mean everybody has chance to be great voice? Can develop it with training etc.? Or is it singer? Tough topic. It's still puzzling in regards the differences, it's appearing there isn't any.

[Ovi]

Liam Gallagher

[Amy B.]

But all in all, I wished that Carl had taken just a couple of professional singing lessons because sometimes on stage his voice got kinda "thin" at moments imo. Some breath control techniques could have solved that I guess.
But as I said, I think all of the guys were great, so that comes on a high standard for not trained musicians. The guys all could take a lead, sang very much on key, bring a natural individuality to their singing and I guess I don't have to mention what incredible things they were capable of in harmony singing.

Could Carl's issues have been somewhat resolved if he hadn't smoked so much? I think he was a much heavier smoker than Brian, for example, wasn't he? I'm always fascinated at how many of the great pop singers smoke/d.
Well, to the list of great voices, I have to add the man whom I've brought up on this board a couple of times and who doesn't seem to get much love: Rufus Wainwright. Some pop singers start out great and then their voices begin to give out. Rufus started out sounding irritating and nasal on his first album but developed a really fine voice that seems to be stronger than ever in his 40s.
Freddie Mercury was pretty fantastic. I take it his technique wasn't good, or he wouldn't have had the issues he sometimes had live. But maybe you have to have a "poor" technique to carry your voice across an arena like he did.

[jackthomaser]

One and only Frank
I am also a big fan of frank

[RangeRoverA1]

Sinatra is good but when I discovered Perry Como, he seemed better than any of the singers in "easy listening" category. I like that his voice sounds old-fashioned, "retro". Frank's sounds "up-to-date" despite the songs being obv. dated.

[SurfRapGrungeFiend]

Rosie hamlin
Michel'le(when she talks shes gotta high pitched voice but when she sings damn)

[RangeRoverA1]

Rosie hamlin

This is very familiar name. Was she in one of those ubiquitous 60s girl groups? I can't check youtube, it's again veeerry slow. Even results page.

[B.E.]

Send my love to Rosie...wherever she may be...

Rosie hamlin

This is very familiar name. Was she in one of those ubiquitous 60s girl groups? I can't check youtube, it's again veeerry slow. Even results page.

Yeah, famous for Angel Baby. As Rosie & the Originals.

[Moon Dawg]

Rosie hamlin

This is very familiar name. Was she in one of those ubiquitous 60s girl groups? I can't check youtube, it's again veeerry slow. Even results page.

  Rosie & the Originals, best known for "Angel Baby."

[B.E.]

She also sang I'm So Young, There's No Other (Like My Baby), and Just Because. The reason i mention Just Because is John Lennon was a big fan of hers and he covered Just Because in the 70s at Phil's request. I assume he never heard Rosie's version which is too bad (apparently he wasnt that familiar with Price's version either). Of course, John recorded Angel Baby as well and Rosie loved it.

[JK]

She also sang I'm So Young, There's No Other (Like My Baby), and Just Because. The reason i mention Just Because is John Lennon was a big fan of hers and he covered Just Because in the 70s at Phil's request. I assume he never heard Rosie's version which is too bad (apparently he wasnt that familiar with Price's version either). Of course, John recorded Angel Baby as well and Rosie loved it.

Lennon also loved the bizarre B-side of "Angel Baby". He kept telling Yoko that this is what it was all about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEGLkMf75aY

See Jim Vincent's comment...

[RangeRoverA1]

Thank you, people. Youtube works. Let's say I didn't like "Angel Baby", sounds veeery generic, there might be 124689 doo-wop/girl group songs with similar melody. She's certainly not pioneer. Funnily, she hasn't got the type of voice I usually like in girl singers but given her age - 15 - & the "mousy" voice seems to be only in the surface, there's sth. there that shows to me she's not bad. Some sheen to it. I liked that "Just Because" version, used to John's too & the song is nice but it quickly went from good to boring. "I'm so young" is namedropped, then it must be in john k's thread of links of that song to compare to BBs version.

[feelsflow]

She also sang I'm So Young, There's No Other (Like My Baby), and Just Because. The reason i mention Just Because is John Lennon was a big fan of hers and he covered Just Because in the 70s at Phil's request. I assume he never heard Rosie's version which is too bad (apparently he wasnt that familiar with Price's version either). Of course, John recorded Angel Baby as well and Rosie loved it.

Lennon also loved the bizarre B-side of "Angel Baby". He kept telling Yoko that this is what it was all about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEGLkMf75aY

See Jim Vincent's comment...

One comment mentions he likes the finger pops.  I was thinkin', no, that's the shape the record is in... vinyl's poppin'.  Got some negative comments - I like it as much as the a-side.