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« on: July 26, 2008, 09:07:47 PM »

Let's see if we can figure out the tours he was on.
From 61-64 he was on most of the shows save for about May to August 1963 where he may have only played a a handful.
1965 he played maybe 8 to 10.
1966 he was at two and did the encore. 1
1967 he did two whole shows.
1970 he did a tour, a loose gig in the summer? to annoncue the Flame and the Whisky.
1971 He did one show one or two songs.
1973 one shows one song the last time he could sing his original parts well.
1976 he did the two for the TV Special and seems to have been on most of the shows from November to December.
1977-81 it seems he was at around 90 percent of them.
1982 about half?
1983 about 40 percent of them?
1984 I know he did a casino gig early in the year, and July 4th
1985 I know July 4th
1986-88 It seems a few local gigs
1989 did his solo set in a few shows.
1990 was there at least one tour when Mike was in Japan I think.
1995 did a gig in May
1996 Did a few shows connected with the country album. Including Nashville and Chicago.
Is this list off anywhere?
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2008, 09:31:30 PM »

Going by Eric's setlist archive website, it's always been my impression that Brian more or less "quit" The Beach Boys when Dennis died. If I recall correctly, Eric's website doesn't mention a "post Dennis" show Brian did untill around 1985-6. It seems that as the years went on, Brian performed less and less. Was it a Landy "idea"?
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2008, 11:30:50 PM »

It sure seems that way. Brian may have also expressed less interest. Landy made all of the final decisions.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2008, 12:27:49 AM »

There were attemps to integrate Brian into the BB live group during the Landy years, but one of the problems was that Brian's management (Landy) wanted a more active, upfront role for Brian, a Mike Love role. No wonder this didn't happen. And Brian himself expressed his disappointment that he would show up for shows, but the boys wouldn't let him perform.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2008, 01:07:44 AM »

I never heard of them not letting him perform, except for a show in "Brian's" autobiography where he said he showed up drunk without shoes in 1982. That does sound like Eugene though as far as dictating to the others how to run the show.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2008, 01:15:50 AM »

My impression from that era was that the band had no problems with Brian performing, but a helluva lot with the nonsense that went with him turning up. Landy's outlook was very b&w - my way or not at all.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2008, 01:55:49 AM »

And, most important, Brian certainly wouldn't have appeared for free. Banana
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2008, 06:35:48 AM »

And, most important, Brian certainly wouldn't have appeared for free. Banana

He got/gets paid whether he shows up or not.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2008, 08:03:53 AM »

He got/gets paid whether he shows up or not.

Really? Then I stay corrected...


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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2008, 08:57:26 AM »

Ok, here's something I've always been wondering: In WIBN (Brian's "autobiography") it states that right after he lost weight in 1983 he made a live appearance and demanded they immediately stopped the song they were playing ("I Get Around") to re-arrange it on the spot, and that not only were the BB peeved, but the audience loved it. Is there any evidence that this really happened?

Also Brian stated (outside of his autobiography) that he asked Mike for his microphone once while onstage in the 80s and Mike sneered back at him "get your own microphone!" Supposedly this led to him not touring.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2008, 10:59:31 AM »

Ok, here's something I've always been wondering: In WIBN (Brian's "autobiography") it states that right after he lost weight in 1983 he made a live appearance and demanded they immediately stopped the song they were playing ("I Get Around") to re-arrange it on the spot, and that not only were the BB peeved, but the audience loved it. Is there any evidence that this really happened?

Not that I've heard - 'course, that doesn't mean it didn't happen but given the overall integrity and veracity of the sole source...  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2008, 12:24:10 PM »

Although in his recent concerts, Brian has occasionally stopped and restarted songs at different tempos, etc. (This doesn't count the infamous "false start" to YSBIM at the PS shows.)
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2008, 01:33:05 PM »

Brian played a good number of 1984 gigs-He was with them in Texas that August-when he got arrested at the Republican Convention
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 01:50:21 PM »

Also-the exact number of known Brian shows  in 1965 (of course-he may have done one or two more) are:
1) Feb 12 1965 -Philadelphia (although Keith Badman doesn't credit it as played by Brian-this appears to have been the first show of this tour-Brian is attested (by an article and photos) at the next day's show-so it is extremely unlikely that Glen flew all the way to Philly and played one show, than flew all the way back to CA-most likely Brian began the tour)
2) Feb 13-NYC (Brian photographed by Hit Parader both onstage and backstage and interviewed backstage)
3) Feb 14-Newark
4) Feb 15- unknown so far (but I am looking!)
5) Feb 16- Unknown
6) Feb 17-Cranston
7) Feb 18-Worcester (attested by article as there in Worcester paper-moodily playing piano backstage while waiting)
Cool Feb 19- Montreal
9) Feb 20-Ottawa
10) Mar 26-Chicago (taped show)
11) Mar 27-Chicago (Taped show- The ad is in my possession and shows they played two days not one day-Badman wrong)
12) Mar 28-Cincinatti- also played by Brian
13) July 2-San Diego-attested by article as a Brian show
14) July 3-Hollywood Bowl- attested by photos (not just of rehearsal, but actual show), articles (short lived LA magazine, etc)
A total of 14 shows-assuming that they played shows on Feb 15 and 16 (this is likely-on short tours they seldom had off days-certainly played on one of those days)-also played two shows a day at some of these (such as NYC on Feb 13)
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 02:20:37 PM »

Wow, so Brian didn't "quit" touring in 1964...
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2008, 04:13:37 PM »

Brian played a good number of 1984 gigs-He was with them in Texas that August-when he got arrested at the Republican Convention

I've never heard about that. What was he arrested for?
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2008, 04:19:55 PM »

Wow, so Brian didn't "quit" touring in 1964...
No...he really "quit" touring in 1963.
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2008, 09:59:24 PM »

Brian played a good number of 1984 gigs-He was with them in Texas that August-when he got arrested at the Republican Convention

I've never heard about that. What was he arrested for?

Being in a part of the building for which he had no accreditation. That was soon sorted out. It took a while longer to explain away the bags of pills in the pockets of his minders.  Grin
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2008, 10:16:31 PM »

Ok, here's something I've always been wondering: In WIBN (Brian's "autobiography") it states that right after he lost weight in 1983 he made a live appearance and demanded they immediately stopped the song they were playing ("I Get Around") to re-arrange it on the spot, and that not only were the BB peeved, but the audience loved it. Is there any evidence that this really happened?
I have always wondered about that. There is something else that I've always wondered about. In his "autobiography", "Brian" talks about a show in Canada in 1979(I think), where he was so drunk that after a few songs he laid down on the stage and fell asleep.  Grin
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