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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2006, 06:37:24 AM »

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Steve does indeed say it's Brian, bit it just doesn't sound like him to these ears. If it is him he's never sung like that before or since.

You have to remember that his entire contention is that it's Brian physically sped up on tape, by playing the tape slowly while recording the vocal, so the vocal appears to be higher when played back at regular speed.

So indeed, Brian would never have sung like that before or since.

Nothing about being sped up in his book... plus since when has Brian's voice sped up sounded exactly like Alan's ?
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2006, 06:49:30 AM »

According to you Andrew, on that Holland tape. Hawhaw!
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« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2006, 07:00:11 AM »

Don't forget the mp3 I made of that section slowed down, with the vocal isolated as much as possible.

http://www.someoneliving.com/alorbrian.mp3
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« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2006, 07:44:50 AM »

Sure, yeah, some of these vocal IDs are obvious to the ears but what's wrong with knowing for sure? Heck, you guys read this thread, a lot of AL sounded like Mike Love and vice versa, same can be said about Carl/Brian... so, you guys with super ears can stand by your "facts."

As for me, I want input from helpful people in this forum.

I hear you.  I thought I knew a lot of them but I'm not a self-proclaimed
genius like Matinee Idyll.  It's hard for me to pick out which Wilson brother
it is at times..  that's why a lot of songs are still debated.  Al isn't even
a Wilson brother and can pass for Brian many times.  "Love You" Brian
sounds a lot rougher then "15 Big Ones" Brian.. but so does Dennis.  I
thought your starting a thread on this topic would be very interesting.
Unfortunately you got a lot of "what's wrong with you?  Listen for yourself"
comments, which isn't the helpful attitude I've grown accustomed to
on this forum over the years.
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« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2006, 08:36:20 AM »

Don't forget the mp3 I made of that section slowed down, with the vocal isolated as much as possible.

http://www.someoneliving.com/alorbrian.mp3
It sure sounds more like Brian than before, but I still think it's Al.
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« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2006, 08:47:21 AM »

Don't forget the mp3 I made of that section slowed down, with the vocal isolated as much as possible.

http://www.someoneliving.com/alorbrian.mp3

I'm being totally serious here, and putting the 'Holland' tape aside - anyone who thinks that's not Alan has major, major hearing problems.
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2006, 08:49:15 AM »

According to you Andrew, on that Holland tape. Hawhaw!

Nope... because my tenet is that the voice on that tape is Alan, not Brian.

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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2006, 08:49:57 AM »

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anyone who thinks that's not Alan has major, major hearing problems.

Steve Desper, for instance...

I happen to think it's Al, but either way, the tape is sped up, which makes it much harder to discern.
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« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2006, 08:51:04 AM »


I'm being totally serious here, and putting the 'Holland' tape aside - anyone who thinks that's not Alan has major, major hearing problems.

I was going to say the same exact thing, only with Al's name replaced by Brian's.

Seriously.

But then again, Andrew, you and I still disagree about "Here Comes the Night."  :-)
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« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2006, 08:53:54 AM »

Dammit, why is there never a fully functioning TARDIS around when you really need one ?
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« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2006, 08:55:43 AM »

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anyone who thinks that's not Alan has major, major hearing problems.

Steve Desper, for instance...

I happen to think it's Al, but either way, the tape is sped up, which makes it much harder to discern.

OK, there's one way to settle this for good. Trouble is, it'll take a while.
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« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2006, 09:00:55 AM »

up until now I Always thought it was Brian at the end (Al Jardine's parts)

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« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2006, 09:03:18 AM »



OK, there's one way to settle this for good. Trouble is, it'll take a while.

Not sure I want to know whether I'm wrong.

If there's one thing I hate, it's being proven wrong over something I'm so sure I'm right about!

But, I guess if you can settle this, Andrew, you should.  Take all the time you need--we're not going anywhere!  Wink

Just so I'm clear: this is the end of "A Day in the Life of a Tree" you're going to settle, right? In terms of whether it's Brian or Al singing with Van Dyke?
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« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2006, 09:10:12 AM »



OK, there's one way to settle this for good. Trouble is, it'll take a while.

Not sure I want to know whether I'm wrong.

If there's one thing I hate, it's being proven wrong over something I'm so sure I'm right about!

But, I guess if you can settle this, Andrew, you should.  Take all the time you need--we're not going anywhere!  Wink

Just so I'm clear: this is the end of "A Day in the Life of a Tree" you're going to settle, right? In terms of whether it's Brian or Al singing with Van Dyke?

Ab-so-lute-ly. Not any other song of the same name by any other band of the same name.  Grin

And I've got used to being 100% sure about something then having to 'fess up. As long as the accurate truth comes out, no problem (well, beyond a mildly dented ego...).
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« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2006, 09:42:47 AM »

Definitely Al. The way he sings "branches to" gives it away.
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« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2006, 09:53:49 AM »

I think Here Comes the Night on Wild Honey is Brian, too.

Here's a good one: the alternate version of Good Vibrations (Asher lyrics) - Brian or Carl? What do the liner notes say? I think it's Carl, to be honest, but I don't know the circumstances surrounding the recording of it, like, if Brian did a guide vocal and that's it... It's one of the weirder lead vocals because the person is vamping a bit.
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« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2006, 10:12:50 AM »

I think Here Comes the Night on Wild Honey is Brian, too.

Here's a good one: the alternate version of Good Vibrations (Asher lyrics) - Brian or Carl? What do the liner notes say? I think it's Carl, to be honest, but I don't know the circumstances surrounding the recording of it, like, if Brian did a guide vocal and that's it... It's one of the weirder lead vocals because the person is vamping a bit.

Brian. Scratch lyrics, scratch vocal.

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« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2006, 10:23:57 AM »

OK... I have had words with someone who's got excellent ears, well up on their BB history and, more pertinently, has heard the vocal in question isolated out in recent times. They say, "I'd swear it's Alan".

Realise this won't be enough for some, but it's OK by me.
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« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2006, 10:29:46 AM »

I'm in the camp that says Brian at the end of Tree, but I admit Al is certainly a possibility.  It just sounds too much like late 60's-1971 or so Brian to me.  I thought the way the line "branches to" was a clear indicator of Brian, not Al.  And as Josh said, the possibility of the tape being sped up doesn't help us much either.  Steven would be of some valuable help to us right now!

The GV scratch version with Asher lyrics is almost certainly Brian...too powerful to be Carl at that time.  Plus I doubt the BB were around during that stage of composing the song anyways.

And Andreas, that first "oh lord I lay me down" is Jack Rieley I'm pretty sure.
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« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2006, 10:51:39 AM »

Whoever is singing the alternate GV is singing very much out of their usual idiom, to be sure.  It's almost as if Brian (I think it's Bri) is trying to imitate somebody else.
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« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2006, 10:57:25 AM »

I'm totally split on the Brian/Al line - I would just go with Brian, but I could never be sure.

GV alt IS Brian. I don't think the others were even around were they?
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« Reply #71 on: February 07, 2006, 10:58:43 AM »

Branches to the ground IS Al.
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« Reply #72 on: February 07, 2006, 11:00:03 AM »

Your mom IS Al.
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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2006, 11:03:37 AM »

GV alt IS Brian. I don't think the others were even around were they?

Yeah, that would be the proof I need.
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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2006, 11:03:55 AM »

Hello ?

'Scuse me ?

[waves hand]

Someone who's a huge BB fan, excellent musician, knows his BB stuff backwards and has heard the part isolated out says he's sure it's Alan - what more do you guys want - a signed affadavit ?

Hellfire, not rocket science to work out who I'm talking about, is it ?
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