Cabinessence sequence done when? (Are verse vocals def. from 68?)

[Dove Nested Towers]

Those lyrics don't strike me as being Van Dyke Parksish at all, especially in comparison to the rest of the song.  They don't fit in with the Cabin Essence lyrics, so I doubt Brian or Van Dyke would've written them.

They seem extremely Parks-ian to me.

[Jay]

"I'm a gas man....I don't believe I got to grieve, I'm out of luck with a buck and a booth"....sounds like Dennis to me.

[buddhahat]

Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must
Catch as catch can

but these sound like something from Surf's Up. My money's on VDP

[runnersdialzero]

Those lyrics were written by Banana. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[Chris Brown]

Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must
Catch as catch can

but these sound like something from Surf's Up. My money's on VDP

I agree completely...it's the internal rhymes that give it away really.  No Beach Boy was capable of writing lyrics like that.

[Jay]

Can anybody post the exact lyrics for that section? I can't quite make them out, even with the part isolated.

[runnersdialzero]

Can anybody post the exact lyrics for that section? I can't quite make them out, even with the part isolated.

This ain't impossible
This ain't improbable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy
This ain't believable
This ain't predictable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy

[SloopJohnB]

Truck driving man, do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of night life it's a gas man
I don't believe, I gotta grieve
In and out of luck, with a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must, catch as catch can!

[Mike's Beard]

Truck driving man, do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of night life it's a gas man
I don't believe, I gotta grieve
In and out of luck, with a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must, catch as catch can!

If those lyrics didn't sprout form the brain of Van Dyke Parks I'll personally eat my copy of 20/20.

[Paulos]

Can anybody post the exact lyrics for that section? I can't quite make them out, even with the part isolated.

This ain't impossible
This ain't improbable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy
This ain't believable
This ain't predictable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy

Ummm, what the feck?  

[Winston Wrong]

So where the hell does the following fit in?..

    Reconnected telephone direct
    dialing;
    Different color cords to your
    Extension,
    Don’t forget to mention
    This is a recording.’

    ‘Even though the echoes through
    my mind
    Have filtered through the pines,
    I came and found my peace,
    And this is not a recording.’

   “Doobie doo,
    Doobie doo,
    Or not doobie!’

Were these lyrics ever even recorded?

[A Million Units In Jan!]

I'm pretty sure those weren't recorded; then again, maybe they were during a 'lost' vocal session. The odd thing about those is, I have no idea where they would fit. They don't match up with the rhythm of the other vocals.

[Jim V.]

Can anybody post the exact lyrics for that section? I can't quite make them out, even with the part isolated.

This ain't impossible
This ain't improbable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy
This ain't believable
This ain't predictable
You are my baby tonight
And I'm your daddy

Classic move Runners.

[etrueholly]

Truck driving man, do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of night life it's a gas man
I don't believe, I gotta grieve
In and out of luck, with a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must, catch as catch can!

I just listened to the song while reading these lyrics, and was blown away at how these were there all along, but never properly heard by me until now.

Are these lyrics a fan's deciphering, or from some sort of official source?

-Ben

[OneEar/OneEye]

So where the hell does the following fit in?..

    Reconnected telephone direct
    dialing;
    Different color cords to your
    Extension,
    Don’t forget to mention
    This is a recording.’

    ‘Even though the echoes through
    my mind
    Have filtered through the pines,
    I came and found my peace,
    And this is not a recording.’

   “Doobie doo,
    Doobie doo,
    Or not doobie!’

Were these lyrics ever even recorded?

Might these have been intended for the first Iron Horse chorus?   Since it is the second that contains Truck Drivin' Man?   I wish they'd been recorded (if they actually were not) because they're pretty cool.

[Jay]

I have a feeling that those alternate lyrics were from the very early days of the song being composed. It's probably from a melody that was scrapped in the demo stages.

[runnersdialzero]

So where the hell does the following fit in?..

    Reconnected telephone direct
    dialing;
    Different color cords to your
    Extension,
    Don’t forget to mention
    This is a recording.’

    ‘Even though the echoes through
    my mind
    Have filtered through the pines,
    I came and found my peace,
    And this is not a recording.’

   “Doobie doo,
    Doobie doo,
    Or not doobie!’

Were these lyrics ever even recorded?

Might these have been intended for the first Iron Horse chorus?   Since it is the second that contains Truck Drivin' Man?   I wish they'd been recorded (if they actually were not) because they're pretty cool.

I thought this might be the case, too. If we had never heard the "Truck drivin' man" vocal but had just the lyrics, we'd be wondering where in the foda it fit in, too - the rhythm, syncopation, and melody are all really weird with it. That's why I think it could have been either intended for the first chorus or possibly an alternate for the 2nd.

[Chris Brown]

So where the hell does the following fit in?..

    Reconnected telephone direct
    dialing;
    Different color cords to your
    Extension,
    Don’t forget to mention
    This is a recording.’

    ‘Even though the echoes through
    my mind
    Have filtered through the pines,
    I came and found my peace,
    And this is not a recording.’

   “Doobie doo,
    Doobie doo,
    Or not doobie!’

Were these lyrics ever even recorded?

Might these have been intended for the first Iron Horse chorus?   Since it is the second that contains Truck Drivin' Man?   I wish they'd been recorded (if they actually were not) because they're pretty cool.

I thought this might be the case, too. If we had never heard the "Truck drivin' man" vocal but had just the lyrics, we'd be wondering where in the foda it fit in, too - the rhythm, syncopation, and melody are all really weird with it. That's why I think it could have been either intended for the first chorus or possibly an alternate for the 2nd.

You may very well be right, but I have another theory.  Perhaps the lyrics belonged to another section that Brian wrote for the song, which he later discarded before it was ever recorded?  Maybe he dropped the section after deciding that the sequence of verse/chorus/verse/chorus/fade was the best, or that adding in another section would make the song too long.  We all know how much he tinkered with Good Vibrations and Heroes, coming up with endless sections and variations, so the idea of another Cabinessence section isn't too far out there I don't think.

The reason I suggest that theory is that to me, the lyrics don't seem to fit anywhere else.  Even if you could somehow sing them over the first chorus (which would be a challenge rhythmically, it would appear), I can't imagine Brian doing that.  What makes the countermelody in that second chorus so special is the fact that it's only done for the second chorus, not both.  Doing the first chorus 'normally" is the best way to set up the variation in the second.  Just my opinion, anyways.  In reality, we'll probably never know.

[Bicyclerider]

Or, a section he discarded AFTER he recorded it - the Oct. 11th session with 7 musicians does not match up with any of the released "sections" of the song, which were recorded Oct. 3rd.  So Brian may have recorded the music for this section - a bridge - but it was either wiped or lost as it's not in the Beach Boys tape archive.

[Winston Wrong]

So where the hell does the following fit in?..

    Reconnected telephone direct
    dialing;
    Different color cords to your
    Extension,
    Don’t forget to mention
    This is a recording.’

    ‘Even though the echoes through
    my mind
    Have filtered through the pines,
    I came and found my peace,
    And this is not a recording.’

   “Doobie doo,
    Doobie doo,
    Or not doobie!’

Were these lyrics ever even recorded?

These lyrics were important enough for Frank Holmes to incude them as part of his artwork for "Cabin Essence - Lost and found, you still remain there"

In the Dominic Priore book, Frank Holmes mentions the above lyrics and mentions that the Telephone cords in the artwork and also the electric plug going into the cloud make reference to this passage..

[jmc]

It would be great to ask Van Dyke these sorts of questions.  Where these lyrics might have gone, or this section, etc.  He might remember (assuming he wrote the lyrics).  Does anyone here know Van Dyke well enough to ask?

[Rotat]

Sorry for reviving such an old thread but I think this is ripe for a lot more discussion. I was about to start a thread asking this exact thing. I am still really wondering if Carl's vocal was from 1966 or not. Apparently there was an overdub in 1968, so I wonder if that's a completely new vocal from that time, did Carl just remember it from when he sang it with Brian in '66? Or was there an existing tape with the exact lead vocal and Carl recreated it? Or the 1968 overdub session was merely just putting the sections together and just ADT'd what he already did? So many questions and I haven't been able to read much info about the authenticity of the 20/20 version of Cabinessence.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

It's been over 6 years, so new info may have come out.  Good question

[Don Malcolm]

Alas, Carl would have been the person to ask. Vocal sessions were clearly held in '68 which allowed the track to be released, and the common (and still reigning, to my knowledge) assumption was that Carl laid down lead vocal for "Home on the Range" and Dennis added his "Iron Horse" counterpoint at that time. IIRC "Iron Horse" vocals, "doings" for "Home on the Range," and all of the "Grand Coulee" section were in place in December '66 when the sh*t hit the fan over Van's lyrics.

[CenturyDeprived]

Alas, Carl would have been the person to ask. Vocal sessions were clearly held in '68 which allowed the track to be released, and the common (and still reigning, to my knowledge) assumption was that Carl laid down lead vocal for "Home on the Range" and Dennis added his "Iron Horse" counterpoint at that time. IIRC "Iron Horse" vocals, "doings" for "Home on the Range," and all of the "Grand Coulee" section were in place in December '66 when the sh*t hit the fan over Van's awesome lyrics.

Fixed that for you