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« on: November 04, 2007, 10:09:01 AM »
Lets start a thread on the speculation on each song of the album, such as discussing what riffs from other songs or if the song was re-incarnated from another tune.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2007, 11:31:28 AM »
OK - "California Role" started life in summer 1985 as "Wondering What You're Up To Now".
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2007, 12:55:45 PM »
and then there's I'm Goin' Home....which remembers me of demotrack I heard (80-ies or early 90-ies) called Goin' Home. Has quite some similarities.

+ that there was something else in that particular song AGD mentioned in the TLOS review-thread.

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2007, 01:00:41 PM »
In "Morning Beat" you can hear a small part that seems to have been directly lifted from a yet-unreleased song called "Walkin'".
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007, 03:29:04 PM »
the music playing under "Narrative of Venice Beach" is very similar to the oboe solo on Wondermints' "Another Way"
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2007, 04:37:25 PM »
Parts of Southern California have similarities to Passing By.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2007, 04:46:02 PM »
Can't Wait Too Long is made into the transition between Oxygen to the Brain and Midnight's Another Day.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2007, 06:39:42 PM »
Very good call on the Morning Beat/Walkin'. I knew it sounded very familiar. Now I miss Brian's vocals about an old lady with an electric car. Another good call on the Wondermint's oboe solo. Same notes.

TLOS, as good as it is, almost seems like a vehicle for a lot of Brian's best 70's leftovers...as GIOMH was for his 80's....only TLOS is good.
 Kidding. I appreciate GIOMH to an extent...unlike a certain AGD. heh.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2007, 11:14:16 PM »
Quote from: SMiLE-Holland on November 04, 2007, 12:55:45 PM
and then there's I'm Goin' Home....which remembers me of demotrack I heard (80-ies or early 90-ies) called Goin' Home. Has quite some similarities.

+ that there was something else in that particular song AGD mentioned in the TLOS review-thread.

Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 11, 2007, 08:02:37 AM
Surprise for me was the inclusion of a few bars from a 1976 archive track that very, very few have ever heard.

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"Clangin'" - check out the group interview part of the big article in the November 1976 issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Brian doing his 'Moses-in-a-bathrobe-with-a-surfboard' thing on the cover.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2007, 11:53:40 PM »
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"Clangin'" - check out the group interview part of the big article in the November 1976 issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Brian doing his 'Moses-in-a-bathrobe-with-a-surfboard' thing on the cover.

ok, thanks.... not sure if I have that mag at home. Will check that out.
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2007, 12:07:14 AM »
Quote from: SMiLE-Holland on November 04, 2007, 11:53:40 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 04, 2007, 11:14:16 PM
"Clangin'" - check out the group interview part of the big article in the November 1976 issue of Rolling Stone, the one with Brian doing his 'Moses-in-a-bathrobe-with-a-surfboard' thing on the cover.

ok, thanks.... not sure if I have that mag at home. Will check that out.

If you have Back To The Beach (by Kingsley Abbott) by any chance then it has it in there.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2007, 12:25:38 AM »
Morning Beat seems to be based on Walkin' and has a snippet of Rio Grande in it...Good Kind Of Love has a fragment of Brian's Back and the descending H&V/Goin' On line...the opening chords to Oxgen are almost identical to Love and Mercy
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2007, 05:41:48 AM »
morning beat has that shortenin' bread feel to it.
I want to say that in Good Kind of Love, the "little lovin and a kissin and a huggin" is part from Maxwell's silver Hammer on Abbey Road, but then again, it's prolly just a desending scale.
Midnight's Another Day reminds me of Til I die so much, it's wierd.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2007, 05:54:48 AM »
where's part of rio grande?
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2007, 06:34:00 AM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 04, 2007, 11:31:28 AM
OK - "California Role" started life in summer 1985 as "Wondering What You're Up To Now".

The verse melody here borrows a bit from "Frankie & Johnny", especially the Elvis Presley version.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2007, 07:08:09 AM »
this isn't a speculation, but just an observation; i enjoy that brian sings and accepts his past problems, such as the accapella part in I'm Goin' Home ("at 25 i turn out the lights....") and part of Oxygen to the Brain ("i wasted a lot of years...") 
it's not as awkward or cliche as per say: happy days (Imagination) or Thank You (Sweet Insanity)
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2007, 09:37:44 AM »
Quote from: punkinhead on November 05, 2007, 05:41:48 AM
morning beat has that shortenin' bread feel to it.

I have that feeling when I listen to Goin' Home.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2007, 10:00:33 AM »
Quote from: punkinhead on November 05, 2007, 05:54:48 AM
where's part of rio grande?

The 'hear those guitars gently strumming' bit replicates the 'oh the great big river' chords from around the 2 minute and 7:30 marks of Rio Grande.

Plus I forgot earlier that the start of Good Kind of Love really reminds me of the verse of WIRWFC - just the feel, the similar chords and the freeform style of piano playing.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2007, 10:54:38 AM »
Oxygen to the Brain to me sounds alot like the chorus of Skatetown USA.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2007, 02:52:08 PM »
Nah, reminds me more of "California Beach".
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2007, 09:00:42 PM »
verses for Oxygen to the Brain kind of reminds me of Frankie Avalon from the Paley sessions
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2007, 12:56:44 AM »
Regardless of the sources of these melodies, it adds up to a satisfactory whole which is no bad thing, considering a lot of the original versions of these songs are unfinished or are likely to remain unreleased.
As someone pointed out, a bit like GIOMH, but perhaps more cohesive.
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2007, 01:59:07 AM »
Oh for sure - the whole decidedly exceeds the sum of the parts.

And it's nothing like GIOMH - one, it's good, and two, Brian was interested.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2007, 04:56:51 AM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 06, 2007, 01:59:07 AM
Oh for sure - the whole decidedly exceeds the sum of the parts.

And it's nothing like GIOMH - one, it's good, and two, Brian was interested.

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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2007, 04:58:40 AM »
Brian wasn't interested in GIOMH? I never knew this.
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