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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2014, 05:43:47 PM »

LOL

I always thought the 'Pickle Brothers' sounded like the name of a bad porn flick
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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2014, 09:26:52 AM »


OK ; I saw them open up for The Beach Boys, Buffalo Springfield, Strawberry Alarm Clock and Sole Survivors at the Westchester County Civic Center in NY , November 1967, right around Thanksgiving. The night was most memorable as the Boys played a brand new , unreleased song, "Darlin' , and it was fabulous. But ...the Pickle Brothers....There are no adjectives that describe how awful they were; there wasnt a laugh in their skit , at least that I can remember. They did the takeoff on the Bobbi Gentry song , changing to to someone jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, definitely did that banana joke; we New Yorker's are not as good as Philly fans when it comes to heckling and booing , but I would say we are at least in the conversation. The audience gave up on the Pickle Brothers about two minutes into their act ; "get the f.ck off" and "you guys suck" were some of the nicer comments ; the guy behind me yelled out " hey I didn't come here to listen to this sh*t , bring out the f..king Beach Boys"....that's when I started laughing. It went all downhill from there; everyone yelling and booing until they went off ...then there was a huge ovation.  I remember saying to one of my friends " I wonder who the f...king moron was who decided it was a good idea to have these guys open up".

For the record , The Beach Boys were great. 

Thanks for that, Ray! Hilarious. Sounds like The Pickle Brothers didn't win over the New York crowd that night. Which is odd, since New York was their home base. Interesting. Also, how cool is it to have heard Darlin before it was released! What a show, at least it sounds like the hecklers provided some of the comedy for the intermissions when the Pickle Brothers did not.  Grin

November 1967, Buffalo Springfield, Strawberry Alarm Clock, early Philly soul with the Soul Survivors (Expressway To Your Heart is a killer record, I don't think I've ever heard it played live from that era), what a bill. This poster from that run of shows has turned up online:

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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2014, 09:28:43 AM »

"Wow, I've been to parties where they played records by the Strawberry Alarm Clock, but never one where the Strawberry Alarm Clock are actually playing!" - The Best Movie Ever Made

Love the Pickle Brothers reminiscence... wow. Now I want a Drew Friedman illustration of them.
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2014, 09:29:50 AM »

Has anyone else on the board been to a show from 67-68 where the Pickle Brothers were on the bill with the Beach Boys? I'd love to hear more stories.
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2014, 09:49:48 AM »

1968 would already be after Redwood and Pickle Bros and the BBs'  inability to operate as a label for even their own records.

Didn't the Maharishi tour have a promoter? I tried to interview him a long time ago and he was willing but wanted to be paid which I wasn't willing to do. His name is in Leafs book. If he was the promoter wouldn't the Boys have gotten paid and the promoter stood the losses?

I wonder if it wasn't the MLK canceled tour they took a hit on?

Pages 196-197-198 here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=spwdCTYbJP4C&q=grillo#v=snippet&q=grillo&f=false

The April 1968 tour was a bust - due to MLK's assassination and fans not willing (or able under the laws put into place in certain areas the band was booked) to go to the venues to see it. So that got canceled. The BB's worked that tour after getting a loan-advance to finance it. That was disaster #1. Grillo's words" "a fucking nightmare".

The May 1968 Maharishi tour was according to Grillo supposed to be the "remedy" for the disaster of the April tour being canceled. Grillo called it "another disaster". Al Jardine had the famous quote about the only people who would make money from it being the florists. The Maharishi was laughing all the time, according to Dick Duryea he always got his money. Laughing all the way to the bank, perhaps? It says Mike was told no one would care about the Maharishi, they turned out to be right.

And it says the tour cost half a million. Add that to the loss of the money they were loaned by Joe Lipsher to self-promote the April tour which got canceled, those two months' touring losses alone equaled a heaping pile of money.

The Maharishi got his fresh flowers, fresh fruit, catered macrobiotic meals or whatever the heck else he was demanding on the road, and got to fly in a private chartered jet. No wonder he was giggling all the time.  Smiley

 

I so WISH Nick Grillo would reply here.  He used to tell the disaster story about the MLK and Maharishi tours and leave everyone in tears, they were laughing so hard.  The guy had a famous temper, and he was funny as hell.  He included me (when I was sorting through 6 years of fan mail in the back room at Ivar) when he took the staff out to the Brown Derby (the one around the corner on Vine) and he was very gracious and entertaining.  THAT is a man who could tell some great stories, and tell them well.
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2014, 09:59:57 AM »

1968 would already be after Redwood and Pickle Bros and the BBs'  inability to operate as a label for even their own records.

Didn't the Maharishi tour have a promoter? I tried to interview him a long time ago and he was willing but wanted to be paid which I wasn't willing to do. His name is in Leafs book. If he was the promoter wouldn't the Boys have gotten paid and the promoter stood the losses?

I wonder if it wasn't the MLK canceled tour they took a hit on?

Pages 196-197-198 here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=spwdCTYbJP4C&q=grillo#v=snippet&q=grillo&f=false

The April 1968 tour was a bust - due to MLK's assassination and fans not willing (or able under the laws put into place in certain areas the band was booked) to go to the venues to see it. So that got canceled. The BB's worked that tour after getting a loan-advance to finance it. That was disaster #1. Grillo's words" "a fucking nightmare".

The May 1968 Maharishi tour was according to Grillo supposed to be the "remedy" for the disaster of the April tour being canceled. Grillo called it "another disaster". Al Jardine had the famous quote about the only people who would make money from it being the florists. The Maharishi was laughing all the time, according to Dick Duryea he always got his money. Laughing all the way to the bank, perhaps? It says Mike was told no one would care about the Maharishi, they turned out to be right.

And it says the tour cost half a million. Add that to the loss of the money they were loaned by Joe Lipsher to self-promote the April tour which got canceled, those two months' touring losses alone equaled a heaping pile of money.

The Maharishi got his fresh flowers, fresh fruit, catered macrobiotic meals or whatever the heck else he was demanding on the road, and got to fly in a private chartered jet. No wonder he was giggling all the time.  Smiley

 

I so WISH Nick Grillo would reply here.  He used to tell the disaster story about the MLK and Maharishi tours and leave everyone in tears, they were laughing so hard.  The guy had a famous temper, and he was funny as hell.  He included me (when I was sorting through 6 years of fan mail in the back room at Ivar) when he took the staff out to the Brown Derby (the one around the corner on Vine) and he was very gracious and entertaining.  THAT is a man who could tell some great stories, and tell them well.

Nice!  Smiley  I wish he'd chime in, too! That would be great. I was just talking about the Brown Derby this week, talking about my dad who would go there in the 40's when he was in the Navy.

Don't you wish someone had recorded those conversations?  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2014, 10:02:26 AM »


OK ; I saw them open up for The Beach Boys, Buffalo Springfield, Strawberry Alarm Clock and Sole Survivors at the Westchester County Civic Center in NY , November 1967, right around Thanksgiving. The night was most memorable as the Boys played a brand new , unreleased song, "Darlin' , and it was fabulous. But ...the Pickle Brothers....There are no adjectives that describe how awful they were; there wasnt a laugh in their skit , at least that I can remember. They did the takeoff on the Bobbi Gentry song , changing to to someone jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, definitely did that banana joke; we New Yorker's are not as good as Philly fans when it comes to heckling and booing , but I would say we are at least in the conversation. The audience gave up on the Pickle Brothers about two minutes into their act ; "get the f.ck off" and "you guys suck" were some of the nicer comments ; the guy behind me yelled out " hey I didn't come here to listen to this sh*t , bring out the f..king Beach Boys"....that's when I started laughing. It went all downhill from there; everyone yelling and booing until they went off ...then there was a huge ovation.  I remember saying to one of my friends " I wonder who the f...king moron was who decided it was a good idea to have these guys open up".

For the record , The Beach Boys were great. 

Thanks for that, Ray! Hilarious. Sounds like The Pickle Brothers didn't win over the New York crowd that night. Which is odd, since New York was their home base. Interesting. Also, how cool is it to have heard Darlin before it was released! What a show, at least it sounds like the hecklers provided some of the comedy for the intermissions when the Pickle Brothers did not.  Grin

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I nearly passed out when I heard Darlin' ; it was great; Carl was wailing. The radio station sponsor in NY was WMCA ; I think the DJ that introduced the Boys was Dan Daniel ; if I remember.  The Pickle Bros ; I can't recall one funny line, or joke or anything other than they sucked. I know we snuck in several cans of Schaeffer half quarts each , into the venue, so under those conditions the PB should have been funny . Even after 5 half quarts of Schaeffer, they sucked; I think I said in an earlier thread, the maharishi would have been a funnier opening act.


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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2014, 10:03:55 AM »

The "MLK" tour had 31 shows scheduled: five were cancelled, three were rescheduled and the remaining 23 went ahead as planned. Of the Maharishi tour's 29 shows, all but five were scrapped.
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2014, 10:34:14 AM »

I nearly passed out when I heard Darlin' ; it was great; Carl was wailing. The radio station sponsor in NY was WMCA ; I think the DJ that introduced the Boys was Dan Daniel ; if I remember.  The Pickle Bros ; I can't recall one funny line, or joke or anything other than they sucked. I know we snuck in several cans of Schaeffer half quarts each , into the venue, so under those conditions the PB should have been funny . Even after 5 half quarts of Schaeffer, they sucked; I think I said in an earlier thread, the maharishi would have been a funnier opening act.

To hear Carl wailing on a then-unreleased song which was that good...in 1967...that's the good stuff, right there. Carl sang the sh*t out of that song, it actually became one of my favorite performances of his over the years.

And I'd say it speaks to the level of comedy that night when even after pounding the Schaeffers the routine still laid an egg! At least it was the November chilly season in New York, you could stash the cans inside winter coats and the like. Harder to sneak those things in during the summer months.  Grin

Seeing the Buffalo Springfield in Nov '67 is pretty cool too, they had just released the album with Bluebird and Rock And Roll Woman a month earlier, and this was both when Neil Young was prone to having seizures on stage during some of the intense songs like Mr. Soul where he'd have to hand off his Gretsch guitar before he collapsed (wow...), and also when Bruce Palmer had come back more cosmic and trippy than before. I've heard he took to the stage wearing a beret and a full-length monk's robe at this time.  Cheesy

And somehow the Pickle Brothers were supposed to fit into all of this?
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2014, 10:57:21 AM »

For a little background...
here are the Pickle Brothers.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2014, 11:14:37 AM »

For a little background...
here are the Pickle Brothers.

Exhibit "A"  !!!

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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2014, 11:20:11 AM »

 LOL  These might help.

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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2014, 11:22:37 AM »

Ugh.

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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2014, 11:27:23 AM »

LOL  These might help.



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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2014, 11:38:28 AM »

For a little background...
here are the Pickle Brothers.


I couldn't get through the whole song. Ouch.
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2014, 11:41:58 AM »

This is the first time I heard this band. I muted the song after 20 seconds.

Is this band big in any specific demographic?
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2014, 11:53:53 AM »


November 1967, Buffalo Springfield, Strawberry Alarm Clock, early Philly soul with the Soul Survivors (Expressway To Your Heart is a killer record, I don't think I've ever heard it played live from that era), what a bill. This poster from that run of shows has turned up online:



This isn't really a poster, per se, it's a full page ad  from Billboard; tho there are a lot of sellers that like to call them posters and see if people will buy them....

For a little background...
here are the Pickle Brothers.

Obviously Ray and his friends didn't appreciate their humor. Mike evidently did; presumably some of the other BBs did also, otherwise why were they included on so many tour dates?
 Humor styles/ tastes change  of course The PB were around long enough that they must have had many people that liked them! Not enough , tho, to release a weird sounding record such as Betty Joe ?
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2014, 12:08:49 PM »

This is pretty much on a par with the stuff the Boys were doing for albums cuts and unused Party takes and Smiley Smile and SMiLE era "humor" takes etc.. It fits right in with Brian's and the Boys' "humor" imo.
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2014, 12:18:08 PM »

Brian's humor was more surreal and Dadaist on the smile tapes. The pickle brothers is really low brow "crowd pleasing" stuff.
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2014, 12:19:54 PM »

As much as I love The Beach Boys for their music, they are definitely not experts when it comes to comedy. But, then again, not too many bands are. The Beatles were quite unique in being genuinely funny.
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« Reply #45 on: November 15, 2014, 12:22:10 PM »

Brian's humor was more surreal and Dadaist on the smile tapes. The pickle brothers is really low brow "crowd pleasing" stuff.

Agreed.
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« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2014, 12:25:39 PM »

Brian's humor was more surreal and Dadaist on the smile tapes. The pickle brothers is really low brow "crowd pleasing" stuff.

Agreed.

And it would seem at that November '67 gig in New York, the term 'crowd pleasing' didn't apply if they got heckled off the stage.
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« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2014, 12:35:21 PM »

Hahaha true, Guitarfool Grin

The inspiration from Arthur Koestler definitely left it's fingerprint on the Beach Boy records (whether it was successful or not). 'Cassius Love vs Sonny Wilson', 'Our Favorite Recording Sessions', etc, right on up to the Smile Sessions....Brian had a genuine philosophical interest in making people laugh. I really don't see how Brian's humor fits in with what The Legendary Flood posted (especially the Smile Session era tracks), but to each his own I suppose....
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« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2014, 01:15:03 PM »

As much as I love The Beach Boys for their music, they are definitely not experts when it comes to comedy. But, then again, not too many bands are. The Beatles were quite unique in being genuinely funny.

Luckily they didn't do "Bugged" or "I'm trapped in a microphone" or "She's Goin' Bald" or "Monster Mash" or some of the other "dadaist"  Roll Eyes classics in concert. 
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2014, 01:18:26 PM »

As much as I love The Beach Boys for their music, they are definitely not experts when it comes to comedy. But, then again, not too many bands are. The Beatles were quite unique in being genuinely funny.

Luckily they didn't do "Bugged" or "I'm trapped in a microphone" or "She's Goin' Bald" or "Monster Mash" or some of the other "dadaist"  Roll Eyes classics in concert. 

They didn't do Monster Mash in concert?
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