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« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2008, 08:46:04 AM »

I really like the song the 'The Man In Me' ,which I heard in The Big Lebowski, but I noticed none of you put New Morning on your top ten list, so is it a good album? I also really like 'Lay Lady Lay', but Dylan fans have always had me under the impression its not a good album. I noticed only one of you put it in their top ten. Also, I had no idea is last two albums are considered some his best work ever. I just thought everyone was fawning over him because music sucks so hard today.

Roger Ryan listed New Morning in his Top Ten. I like it, especially in the fall and winter. I consider it the closest thing I have to Bob Dylan Christmas music with "Winterlude", "Three Angels", "Father Of Night", and "Time Passes Slowly".

Just to clarify, "Lay Lady Lay" was a single off of the Nashville Skyline album. And for a couple of years now, it has been at the top of my Dylan Top Ten tracks list. There's something about that steel guitar and Dylan's voice that gets to me everytime.

And, finally, Dylan's last couple of albums have been well received. However, I'm still trying to appreciate Modern Times. The songs are just a little bit too long and repetitive for me. But, someday I'll wake up and "get" it....
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« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2008, 02:14:29 PM »

Clarification: NEW MORNING is pleasant enough, but it's not actually in my top ten. I was only listing albums that Sheriff John Stone hadn't listed that I thought were better than REAL LIVE and UNDER THE RED SUN!

Here's my real top ten (right now anyway):

1) BLOOD ON THE TRACKS
2) BLONDE ON BLONDE
3) BRINGING IT ALL BACK HOME
4) HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED
5) LIVE 1966
6) OH MERCY
7) JOHN WESLEY HARDING
Cool LOVE AND THEFT
9) TIME OUT OF MIND
10) FREEWHEELIN' BOB DYLAN

Not very surprising, I guess. Hovering just outside the top ten would be MODERN TIMES, STREET LEGAL, DESIRE, ANOTHER SIDE, NASHVILLE SKYLINE, BASEMENT TAPES, NEW MORNING...and the list goes on!
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« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2008, 09:17:56 PM »

This is a comp I recently made for the car:

Bob Dylan 1967 - 1977

1. The Mighty Quinn
2. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere
3. If Not For You
4. Lay Lady Lay
5. Simple Twist Of Fate (Rolling Thunder Revue)
6. Forever Young (The Last Waltz)
7. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (The Last Waltz)
8. This Wheel's On Fire
9. One More Cup Of Coffee
10. Lily Of The West
11. You're A Big Girl Now
12. Tangled Up In Blue
13. If You See Her Say Her Hello
14. Hurricane
15. I Shall Be Released (The Last Waltz)
16. All Along The Watchtower (Before The Flood)
17. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
18. Father Of Night
19. Shelter From The Storm

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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2008, 12:56:04 PM »

"Sara" is one of my favorites of this period...
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« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2008, 09:24:49 PM »

"Sara" is one of my favorites of this period...

Question for Dylan fans....Was Blood On The Tracks about Bob & Sara's breakup? But the song "Sara", which is a love song, came right AFTER Blood On The Tracks. Anybody have any clarification?
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« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2008, 02:21:29 AM »

"Sara" is one of my favorites of this period...

Question for Dylan fans....Was Blood On The Tracks about Bob & Sara's breakup? But the song "Sara", which is a love song, came right AFTER Blood On The Tracks. Anybody have any clarification?

Sheriff, this is what Wikipedia makes of it:

Sara Dylan has inspired several of Bob Dylan's songs, at least two directly. The first was "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" (from "Blonde On Blonde"), and the second the eponymous "Sara" (from 1976's "Desire"). This song was an attempt to reconcile with Sara after their estrangement around 1975:

I can still hear the sound of the Methodist bells
I had taken the cure and had just gotten through
staying up for days in the Chelsea Hotel
writing "Sad Eyed Lady Of The Lowlands" for you


Bob Dylan's 1975 album "Blood On The Tracks" is widely viewed as the most potent of Sara's inspirations, as many fans assume the songs refer to her. The album was recorded soon after the couple's initial separation. Bob Dylan biographer Clinton Heylin has argued that Sara Dylan's influence on the lyrical content of the album is often exaggerated. Bob Dylan himself denied at the time of the album's release that "Blood On The Tracks" was autobiographical. However, the couple's son Jakob says: "The songs are my parents talking".

Other Bob Dylan songs believed to be inspired by Sara Dylan include "Abandoned Love," "Down Along The Cove", "Wedding Song", "On A Night Like This", "I'll Be Your Baby Tonight", "To Be Alone With You", "If Not For You", "Where Are You Tonight? (Journey Through Dark Heat)" and "Love Minus Zero/No Limit".

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« Reply #56 on: May 03, 2008, 06:33:53 AM »

Thanks for the info, 8080! A reconciliation song; makes sense. However, it does appear there is still some debate about the content of Blood On The Tracks. I like to read background stuff like that, it adds to my enjoyment of the song(s).
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« Reply #57 on: May 04, 2008, 09:54:36 AM »

The distance in time between BLOOD ON THE TRACKS and "Sara" from DESIRE is pretty minimal (less than a year); real life isn't so neat that Dylan would have moved on in his feelings a few months after dashing off the BOTT songs. Relationships can be unpredictable as well: note that Dylan and Sara attended the Golden Globes ceremony together in 2000 when he won for "Things Have Changed".
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« Reply #58 on: May 11, 2008, 06:18:32 PM »

VH1 Classic was showing The Last Waltz (and Don't Look Back) this weekend, so that was a good excuse to watch it - because it was on! Anyway, Dylan's performance of "Baby Let Me Follow Down" is one my all-timers. It's one of Dylan's strongest vocals ever, he's really into it, and The Band is rocking. Then, at the end, Dylan punctuates it with that big "THANK YOU!" Timeless...
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« Reply #59 on: May 12, 2008, 12:36:03 AM »

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he's really into it,

My understanding fo the events is that Bob refused to go out and perform unless his appearance was not filmed.  After some pleading he partially relented allowing just 2 of the 4 songs ('Baby Let Me Follow You' down and 'Forever Young') to be filmed.  So we almost did not get to see it.
Levon Helm has complained (and I can understand the complaint) that  Scorsese made The Band look like Robbie Robertson's sidemen.  Manuel and Hudson certainly didn't get much screen time even when they were singing. 
And of course there is the infamous lump of white powder eventually photo-shopped off of N.Y.'s nose for the  DVD.  Still it was a great event and film of a great band.
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« Reply #60 on: May 12, 2008, 11:52:43 AM »

And, finally, Dylan's last couple of albums have been well received. However, I'm still trying to appreciate Modern Times. The songs are just a little bit too long and repetitive for me. But, someday I'll wake up and "get" it....

The slow songs have a grammaphone simplicity to them that belie how personal they can be. "Workingman Blues" is especially tender, for me, after coming out on the other side of a traumatic event.

The faster songs have a rollickin' country/rockabilly feel that I've never heard Dylan approach, until "Love & Theft." It's kind of cool to have him do that kind of rock 'n' roll with his voice.

"Modern Times" isn't my favorite Dylan album, but I definitely connect with it, and listen to it more than I thought I would.
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« Reply #61 on: May 12, 2008, 07:48:11 PM »

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he's really into it,

My understanding fo the events is that Bob refused to go out and perform unless his appearance was not filmed.  After some pleading he partially relented allowing just 2 of the 4 songs ('Baby Let Me Follow You' down and 'Forever Young') to be filmed.  So we almost did not get to see it.
Levon Helm has complained (and I can understand the complaint) that  Scorsese made The Band look like Robbie Robertson's sidemen.  Manuel and Hudson certainly didn't get much screen time even when they were singing. 
And of course there is the infamous lump of white powder eventually photo-shopped off of N.Y.'s nose for the  DVD.  Still it was a great event and film of a great band.

The Last Waltz deserves a thread just for itself. And, The Band could fill up quite a few pages on a Message Board. Talk about controversy! It's funny, The Last Waltz is so flawed, but I can't stop watching it when it's on. Of course, Dylan's peformance is my favorite (in addition to loving "Baby Let Me Follow You Down, I think "Forever Young" is better than the studio version), but I also enjoy Ronnie Hawkins and Paul Butterfield.
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« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2008, 12:30:37 AM »

Here's a 7 cd compilation I made of Bob's carreer, to play in my car. There's no duplication of songs and I tried to stay with the official releases (with a few exceptions).

What do you think?
What's missing, what would you add?


Dylan 1961 -2001

CD 1

1. Baby, Let Me Follow You Down - (Bob Dylan)
2. Wade In The Water - (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
3. I Was Young When I Left Home - (Minnesota Hotel Tape)
4. Baby I'm In The Mood For You - (The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan outtake)
5. Blowin' In the Wind - (The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan)
6. Handsome Molly - (The Gaslight Tapes)
7. Mixed-Up Confusion - (single)
8. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right - (The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan)
9. Masters of War - (The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan)
10. Playboys And Playgirls - (live in Newport)
11. Boots of Spanish Leather - (The Times They Are A-Changin’)
12. Percy's Song - (The Times They Are A-Changin outtake)
13. The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll - (The Times They Are A-Changin )
14. The Times They Are A-Changin - (The Times They Are A-Changin)
15. Lay Down Your Weary Tune - (The Times They Are A-Changin outtake)
16. It Ain't Me, Babe - ( Another Side of Bob Dylan)
17. All I Really Want To Do - (Another Side of Bob Dylan)
18. Gates Of Eden - (Halloween concert)
19. House of The Risin' Sun - (overdub session electric instruments)


CD 2

1. I'll Keep It With Mine - (Bringing It All Back Home acoustic outtake)
2. Subterranean Homesick Blues - (Bringing It All Back Home)
3. She Belongs To Me - (Bringing It All Back Home)
4. Love Minus Zero/No Limit - (Bringing It All Back Home acoustic outtake)
5. Maggie's Farm - (Bringing It All Back Home)
6. Mr. Tambourine Man - (Bringing It All Back Home)
7. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue - (Bringing It All Back Home)
8. To Ramona - (live in Sheffield, England)
9. Like A Rolling Stone - (Highway 61 Revisited)
10. Positively 4th Street - (single)
11. From A Buick 6 - (Highway 61 Revisited)
12. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window? - (single)
13. I Wanna Be Your Lover - (Highway 61 Revisited - outtake)
14. Just Like A Woman - (Blonde On Blonde)
15. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again - (Blonde On Blonde)
16. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 - (Blonde On Blonde)
17. I Want You - (Blonde On Blonde)
18. I Don't Believe You - (live in Belfast, Ireland)
19. Visions of Johanna - (live in London, England)


CD 3

1. Million Dollar Bash - (The Basement Tapes )
2. Quinn The Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn) - (The Basement Tapes)
3. All Along The Watchtower - (John Wesley Harding)
4. Dear Landlord - (John Wesley Harding)
5. I'll Be Your Baby Tonight - (John Wesley Harding)
6. Grand Coulee Dam - (live in Carnegie Hall - A Tribute To Woody Guthrie)
7. Lay Lady Lay - (Nashville Skyline)
8. Living The Blues - (Self Portrait)
9. Minstrel Boy - (live at Isle of Wight - with The Band)
10. Pretty Saro - (Self Portrait)
11. Copper Kettle - (Self Portrait)
12. Spanish Is My Lovin’ Tongue - (single)
13. If Dogs Run Free - (New Morning)
14. If Not For You - (New Morning)
15. Time Passes Slowly - (New Morning)
16. You Ain't Goin' Nowhere - (Greatest Hits, Vol. 2 )
17. I Shall Be Released - (Greatest Hits, Vol. 2)
18. George Jackson - (single)
19. Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door - (Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid
20. Billy - (Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid)
21. Forever Young - (demo - Biograph)
22. You Angel You - (Planet Waves)
23. On a Night Like This - (Planet Waves)
24. Dirge - (Planet Waves)
25. Most Likely You Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine - (live in Los Angeles, with The Band )


CD 4

1. You're A Big Girl Now - (Blood On The Tracks -outtake)
2. Shelter From The Storm - (Jerry Maguire soundtrack)
3. Up To Me - (Blood On The Tracks -outtake)
4. Tangled Up In Blue - (Blood On The Tracks)
5. Rita Mae - (single)
6. Abandoned Love - (Desire outtake)
7. Hurricane - (Desire)
8. Romance In Durango - (live in Quebec, Canada - with Rolling Thunder Revue)
9. Isis - (live in Quebec, Canada - with Rolling Thunder Revue)
10. One More Cup Of Coffee - (live in Budokan Hall, Tokyo)
11. Changing Of The Guards - (Street Legal)
12. Señor (Tales Of Yankee Power) - (Street Legal)
13. I Believe In You - (Slow Train Coming)
14. Gotta Serve Somebody - (Slow Train Coming)
15. Solid Rock - (Saved)


CD 5

1. Caribbean Wind - (Shot Of Love outtake)
2. Every Grain of Sand - (demo - Biograph)
3. Heart Of Mine - (live in New Orleans )
4. Jokerman - (Infidels)
5. Blind Willie McTell - (Infidels outtake - The Bootleg Series, 1961-1991)
6. I And I - (live in Slane Castle, Ireland - Real Live)
7. Tight Connection To My Heart - (Empire Burlesque)
8. Dark Eyes - (Empire Burlesque)
9. Band Of The Hand - (single )
10. The Usual - (single)
11. Night After Night - (Hearts Of Fire soundtrack )
12. Silvio - (Down In The Groove)
13. Pretty Boy Floyd - (A Vison Shared)
14. Man In The Long Black Coat - (Oh Mercy)
15. Everything Is Broken - (Oh Mercy)
16. People Get Ready - (Flashback soundtrack)
17. Born In Time - (Under the Red Sky)
 
Updated cd 6:

1. Nobody's Child (Romanian Angel Appeal)
2. This Old Man (Disney cd)
3. Miss The Mississippi And You (Bromberg session outtake)
4. You Belong To Me (OST Natural Born Killers)
5. Tomorrow Night (Good as I've been to you)
6. Hard Times (Good as I've been to you)
7. Song To Woody (Bobfest outtake)
8. Heartland (Willie Nelson: Across The Borderline)
9. Ballad Of Hollis Brown (Mike Seeger: Third Annual Farewell Reunion)
10. Delia (World Gone Wrong)
11. Blood In My Eyes (World Gone Wrong)
12. Boogie Woogie Country Girl (A Tribute To Doc Pomus)
13. Blue Eyed Jane (Tribute To Jimmie Rodgers)
14. Hard Rain (Great Music Experience)
15. Dignity (Unplugged - Bob Dylan Live 1961-2000)
16. Not Dark Yet (Time Out Of Mind)
17. Love Sick (Time Out Of Mind)
18. To Make You Feel My Love (Time Out Of Mind)

CD 7

1. The Lonesome River (Ralph Stanley's Clinch River Mountain)
2. Cold Irons Bound (Bob Dylan Live 1961-2000)
3. Chimes Of Freedom (The Sixties TV Soundtrack Album)
4. Train Of Love (A Tribute To Johnny Cash)
5. Things Have Changed (OST Wonder Boys)
6. Somebody Touched Me (Bob Dylan Live 1961-2000)
7. High Water (For Charlie Patton) (Love And Theft)
8. Mississippi (Love And Theft)
9. Moonlight (Love And Theft)
10. Red Cadillac And A Black Moustache (Good Rocking Tonight - A Sun Tribute)
11. I Can't Get You Off Of My Mind (Timeless - Tribute To Hank Williams)
12. Return To Me (The Sopranos - OST Salt & Pepper)
13. Waiting For You (OST Ya Ya Sisterhood)
14. Dixie (OST Masked And Anonymous)
15. Cross The Green Mountains (OST Gods And Generals)
16. Thunder on the Mountain (Modern Times)
17. Nettie Moore (Modern Times)
18. Ain't Talkin' (Modern Times)
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« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2008, 01:13:20 AM »

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I thought the Band's performance of "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" was stunning.  I don't know how you do it any better than that.
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« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2008, 06:28:22 AM »

Peerke - That's a fine collection! But I definitely would have included "Bob Dylan's Dream", "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)", "Black Diamond Bay", "The Groom Is Still Waiting At The Altar" and "Most Of The Time". All in all, since I've only added five tracks, it's apparent that I think you hit virtually all the high points.
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« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2008, 04:43:30 PM »

Great, great comps, peerke! Thanks for sharing them. You're obviously a very knowledgable fan, and some of the tracks you listed I never heard, so I'm in no position to change anything. But that never stopped me before! police

I kept thinking of songs that SHOULD be on the list, then would check your list, only to find them there. Anyway, I humbly would add:

"Girl From The North Country" from The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan or Real Live or The 30th Anniversary Concert
"Lily Of The West" from Dylan
"Baby Let Me Follow You Down" from The Last Waltz
"Shooting Star" from Unplugged outtake
"Most Of The Time" from Oh Mercy
"Summer Days" from Love And Theft

But don't ask me what I'd take off! Thanks again....

Late entry: I just thought of one from my Dylan "dark horse" album, Under The Red Sky - "God Knows"
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« Reply #66 on: May 16, 2008, 08:07:11 PM »

The setlist for the first concert of Dylan's 2008 spring/summer tour:

May 16, 2008  Worcester, Massachusetts

1. Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
2. Girl Of The North Country
3. Watching The River Flow
4. Can't Wait
5. The Levee's Gonna Break
6. Simple Twist Of Fate
7. Rollin' And Tumblin'
8. Tryin' To Get To Heaven
9. John Brown
10. Most Likely You Go Your Way
11. Spirit On The Water
12. Highway 61 Rivisited
13. Workingman Blues #2
14. Summer Days
15. Ballad Of A Thin man

Encore:

16. Thunder On The Mountain
17. Like A Rolling Stone

Looks like Bob traded in "Cats In The Well" and brought back "Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum". Slightly surprised that he's sticking with "Summer Days", although I love the song. A little thin on the "hits", like "Lay Lady Lay", "Tangled Up In Blue", and no "All Along The Watchtower". Still playing a lot from Modern Times - too many?. Snuck in "Trying To Get To Heaven" which I also like. Same band as the few years. Comments?   

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« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2008, 10:25:27 PM »

I like that he's playing alot from Modern Times - it's a good album. I hate it when artists release good albums then just tour their hits.
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« Reply #68 on: May 16, 2008, 10:29:07 PM »

"Workingman Blues #2" is a helluva song, when I saw Dylan last year it was easily one of the highlights, I hope he keeps it in the setlist.
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« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2008, 03:34:36 AM »

Peerke's compilation is fantastic, would be really difficult for me to add anything, except for maybe "Let Me Die In My Footsteps" and some more "Nashville Skyline" cuts ("To Be Alone With You").

Good to see the 'alternate' "You're A Big Girl Now" on it though, which outshines the "Blood On The Tracks" version. 
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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2008, 05:55:58 AM »

Slightly surprised that he's sticking with "Summer Days", although I love the song.

That song is a monster live!!  I have seen Bob twice and he played it both times.  He really seems to get into that one.  Well, at least as much as Bob visually gets into anything that is.
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« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2008, 07:36:03 PM »

Slightly surprised that he's sticking with "Summer Days", although I love the song.

That song is a monster live!!  I have seen Bob twice and he played it both times.  He really seems to get into that one.  Well, at least as much as Bob visually gets into anything that is.

Yeah, Dylan does get into it doesn't it; you could actually categorize it as dancing! police

Seriously, the song does rock, with Tony Garnier on the stand-up bass, and Denny Freeman wailing on guitar. Bob has played it at every concert so far on his 2008 spring/summer tour. Again, I'm a little surprised that it's one of the only songs he plays EVERY NIGHT. I mean, with his catalogue, I just find it interesting that he chose that one. It looks like "Tweedle Dum & Tweedle Dee" is back to stay also. That kinda rocks live, too.
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« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2008, 07:39:52 PM »

Happy 67th Birthday, Robert Allen Zimmerman! police
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« Reply #73 on: August 11, 2008, 01:44:35 PM »

For those who are interested, Columbia is releasing the next installment of Dylan's "Bootleg Series" on Oct. 7th. This one's called TELL TALE SIGNS and is a double CD set containing demos, outtakes and alternate versions of material from OH MERCY through last year's MODERN TIMES. Go to www.bobdylan.com to download an MP3 of "Dreamin' of You", an unreleased track from TIME OUT OF MIND that is as good, if not better, than some of the material on that fine album (you'll recognize a few lyrics that got parceled out to other tracks).

There's an expensive collector's edition that contains a third CD with more outtakes. I'll probably go for this since the bonus disc doesn't appear to be a throw-together, but an actual continuation of the material found on the first two discs.

This is exciting news because I've been waiting for more unreleased studio work from Dylan and the last twenty years have been pretty strong for him. I'm especially interested in hearing the OH MERCY outtakes of tracks that ended up on UNDER THE RED SUN (I suspect I might like the early versions better).
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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2008, 04:02:33 AM »

Go to www.bobdylan.com to download an MP3 of "Dreamin' of You", an unreleased track from TIME OUT OF MIND that is as good, if not better, than some of the material on that fine album (you'll recognize a few lyrics that got parceled out to other tracks).
Thanks! Just downloaded it, very good tune!
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