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Quote from: MBE on September 20, 2007, 06:35:59 PM
I have been knocked for saying this before but I honestly think Steamboat has Brian singing "We'll Get Your Stemboat Rollin" with Dennis. The high part sounds more like him then Carl, and even if he did little at the sessions he could have spent five minutes doing a quick overdub. Am I the only one that hears him? As far Dennis the way the word Rollin is pronounced is his unique phrasing.
OK now I finally had to go listen to the darn song, damn it all...
I can't believe they were going to open the album with this. Ballsy, I'll say that.
Alright:
Yeah, I agree. Dennis on the "Fulton" line on the prominent bottom vocal. I guess the reason I question this as a lead vocal (particularly since Carl got washed out for co-lead on "Celebrate") is Carl's lead continues through this section, so to me it's a background vocal part, not a lead.
As for Brian on this part...you mean the high part in the left channel over Dennis', right? I get why you'd say that, it does have a kind of a Brian-like resonance. But the "worry Mr. Fulton" sounds like Carl's inflection to me, and there's a few places towards the end that sound the same way. Plus since the track sounds like two people overdubbing themselves to death, and that's a two part harmony, it makes more sense that it's Carl and Dennis and not Dennis and Brian with Carl sitting it out.
So, yeah, I agree it
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be Brian, but it sounds more like Carl to me.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 20, 2007, 03:27:52 AM
It pains me to admit that it wasn't until maybe three years ago that I realised what "U Say Asee" was...
Ok, last night I listened to "Funky Pretty". I must have listened to that section about 30 times in a row. I have no fucking idea what that line means. I give up! Somebody PLEASE tell me before my brain explodes.
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I think it's just nonsense Jay. Adamghost perhaps Carl and Brian do the high part, but it sure sounds like Brian on the "We'll get your Steamboat rolling" line.
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I am in the same boat as Adam. The first half of that line sounds like Brian, but the phrasing on "we'll get your steamboat rolling" sounds like Carl. It wouldn't be unusual for them to split a vocal line like that. Maybe it is both of them.
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Quote from: Jay on September 21, 2007, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 20, 2007, 03:27:52 AM
It pains me to admit that it wasn't until maybe three years ago that I realised what "U Say Asee" was...
Ok, last night I listened to "Funky Pretty". I must have listened to that section about 30 times in a row. I have no fodaing idea what that line means. I give up! Somebody PLEASE tell me before my brain explodes.
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Quote from: adamghost on September 21, 2007, 06:04:03 PM
Yeah, I agree. Dennis on the "Fulton" line on the prominent bottom vocal. I guess the reason I question this as a lead vocal (particularly since Carl got washed out for co-lead on "Celebrate")
HA-HA! So THAT'S what this is about!:D
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is Carl's lead continues through this section, so to me it's a background vocal part, not a lead.
Seriously, I'm not so sure. It's two different parts at once, and it's as loud as the Carl part. I think relative loudness levels have to be a factor in these vocal analyses. It's as much a lead part in my eyes as Mike is on "It's About Time" except Mike sings a tiny bit unaccompanied, but this is a lot longer.
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As an aside, I'm gonna give Carl a "with" credit on CTN, after due deliberation and much listening.
It's not loud enough for an "and" but a "with" is fine.
Orders of business before we move on:
1) AGD - permission to use the read-out of Funky Pretty for a close-up?
2) Does Blondie sing the bridge on We Got Love studio version?
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Quote from: John on September 24, 2007, 06:49:35 AM
As an aside, I'm gonna give Carl a "with" credit on CTN, after due deliberation and much listening.
It's not loud enough for an "and" but a "with" is fine.
Orders of business before we move on:
1) AGD - permission to use the read-out of Funky Pretty for a close-up?
2) Does Blondie sing the bridge on We Got Love studio version?
No probs.
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Quote from: pixletwin on September 21, 2007, 11:06:16 PM
I am in the same boat as Adam. The first half of that line sounds like Brian, but the phrasing on "we'll get your steamboat rolling" sounds like Carl. It wouldn't be unusual for them to split a vocal line like that. Maybe it is both of them.
I think it would be unusual to split a line on what sounds like two parts throughout a continuous vocal track. You could construct a scenario where Brian starts it and decides he wants to go home and Carl picks it up mid-session, I suppose.
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Wasn't the line from H&V "In the cantina margarits keep the spirits high. There I watched he she swung around and wound in the warmth her body fanned the flame of the dance" split between Brian and Mike? I know there 2 sentences, but the melodic lines goes strait through without a break.
Maybe therein lies the difference?
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Quote from: pixletwin on September 24, 2007, 05:21:04 PM
Wasn't the line from H&V "In the cantina margarits keep the spirits high. There I watched he she swung around and wound in the warmth her body fanned the flame of the dance" split between Brian and Mike? I know there 2 sentences, but the melodic lines goes strait through without a break.
Maybe therein lies the difference?
Well, yeah, but that's a lead vocal part, where you're selecting the guy to do one line because you like the timbre of his voice for it (the part Mike sings dips into a lower register where, in '67, he killed). If you're doing a background vocal (e.g. not featured) part, switching a guy on the top note in the middle of a session is just a pain in the neck to achieve not that great a difference in the overall sound (in fact, you don't WANT a difference in the sound because it's basically the same part). I can't imagine doing it unless (a) Brian took off or (b) they were different parts done at different times, but it sounds to me like it's all one two-vocal part on one track.
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I know that this has been beaten to death as it is, but I figured I'd add my 2 cents. On the "Mr. Fulton" line, I'm hearing Brian, especially on the "ton" of the word "Fulton". It has the slight nasal quality of Brian's falsetto. But I also hear Carl for the rest of that line.
On a slightly unrelated note, "Steamboat" creeps the hell out of me for some reason.
I just listened to it for the first time the other night, in total darkness. I won't do that again!
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Quote from: Jay on September 24, 2007, 08:32:28 PM
....On a slightly unrelated note, "Steamboat" creeps the hell out of me for some reason.
I just listened to it for the first time the other night, in total darkness. I won't do that again!
Were you, um, eating sandwiches at the time?
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He was drinking apple cider and listening to Randy Newman's Sail Away.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 24, 2007, 03:10:26 PM
Quote from: John on September 24, 2007, 06:49:35 AM
1) AGD - permission to use the read-out of Funky Pretty for a close-up?
No probs.
Thanks!
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Just made a few minor changes in terminology that have been bugging me to a couple of the earlier albums.
Before we move onto IN CONCERT, can anyone answer my question about We Got Love (specifically, does the studio version feature Blondie on the bridges)?
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Yes, it does. Any other suggestions?
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Just wanted to say at this point...before the voices start degrading...THIS is an incredible thread. Thank you to John and all the expert ears out there who are making this truly the definitive evaluation of the Beach Boys vocal credits. As we say out here in sunny California....Awesome!!
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On the "Mr. Fulton" line, I'm hearing Brian, especially on the "ton" of the word "Fulton". It has the slight nasal quality of Brian's falsetto. But I also hear Carl for the rest of that line.
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Exactly what I heard too.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on September 27, 2007, 09:48:19 AM
Just wanted to say at this point...before the voices start degrading...THIS is an incredible thread. Thank you to John and all the expert ears out there who are making this truly the definitive evaluation of the Beach Boys vocal credits. As we say out here in sunny California....Awesome!!
Thanks to you too though!
In tandem with the musicians credits thread, this could just be a book. Anyone else agree?
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Quote from: dogear on September 27, 2007, 09:31:43 AM
Yes, it does. Any other suggestions?
Right then, I'll add that. Everyone happy with that?
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Are you sure Ricky doesn't sing LTT?
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I have a few things about "In concert" to add/ask about:
1. At the start of "Sail On Sailor", Dennis yells out "everybody!". Is that enough of a "vocal" to give a mention?
2. Technically, doesn't the entire group(including backing musicians?) sing "Surfer Girl"?
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I have something to mention about Leaving This Town - should Ricky get a mention for his "sometimes it's hard" answer vocal? According to Cynthia Plas . . . never mind, just kidding.
Not kidding about the refrain, though
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Quote from: Jay on September 30, 2007, 09:24:31 PM
2. Technically, doesn't the entire group(including backing musicians?) sing "Surfer Girl"?
The lead on Surfer Girl is the one who sings the "We could ride the surf together, while our love would grow" part.
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