Alright, lets talk about Warmth of the Sun!

[Andrew G. Doe]

The cough also isn't in the original mono mix.  A lot of the little anomalies people hear in the stereo mixes aren't in the mono because Brian took them out in the final mixdown.

Yes it is - when the organ solo is faded down, listen carefully. That's where it is. That's why the organ solo is faded.

But was it removed from the version on the GOOD VIBRATIONS box set?  I've listened to it five times today, both through the headphones and through the speakers turned all the way up, and I could not hear it at all.

The masters on the box set are, wherever possible, the original mono 45 masters (thus nothing was remixed for the box that wasn't previously released). The organ's faded down at about 1.19-1.20, and that's where the cough is - faint but it's there. I can only assume there was some bleed-through.

[Rocker]

I've gotta say that not only do I think it's a smart move to have no liner notes so people get the podcast, it's also a bessing that there are no liner notes as terrible as the ones for SOS. The typical biographical stuff would've been fine but those notes suck. Good that they didn't use something like that for WOTS

[Steve Mayo]

my copy of WOTS finally arrived from amazon today. i am glad i bought it, i really enjoy the new mixes and like having a cd with sunflower/surf's up cuts on it (my fav period of being a fan). also glad it has charted. hope this means more future releases like this one.

only thing i have noticed wrong about the cd is in the insert on page six. under the "it's ok" section it says it comes from 15 big ones and that lp was released 5/7/76. actually it was 7/5/76.

but i am happy with this set and i do believe i will be playing it a lot this summer.

thanks to all who made this cd possible..........

[Eric Aniversario]

only thing i have noticed wrong about the cd is in the insert on page six. under the "it's ok" section it says it comes from 15 big ones and that lp was released 5/7/76. actually it was 7/5/76.

but i am happy with this set and i do believe i will be playing it a lot this summer.

thanks to all who made this cd possible..........

Sharp eye!  I would have never noticed that!

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's also a wrong production credit.   

[bellagio]

Couldn't that date be 'wrong' because of the different ways we have of noting it, for exmp: 2/5/74 means Feb.5 to me, but across the pond it means May 2nd...Just a thought.

[Steve Mayo]

nope...rest of the dates were right

[Daniel S.]

Anyone think Capitol will remaster all of the twofers and release them again?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

There's also a wrong production credit

Which one?

[Mahalo]

Anyone think Capitol will remaster all of the twofers and release them again?

I do, honestly.........but it will be a long time before they do so. However, it's only a matter of time and $$$$.....

[c-man]

There's also a wrong production credit

Which one?

My guess is "All This Is That"...says it was produced by Alan, but in their authorized biography (Byron Preiss) Alan says that Carl wanted a certain approach to the production, so he cut the track.  Without getting up to look, I believe the liners in the "So Tough"/"Holland" twofer credited both of them.  Is that the one, Andrew?

[HeyJude]

There's also a wrong production credit

Which one?

My guess is "All This Is That"...says it was produced by Alan, but in their authorized biography (Byron Preiss) Alan says that Carl wanted a certain approach to the production, so he cut the track.  Without getting up to look, I believe the liners in the "So Tough"/"Holland" twofer credited both of them.  Is that the one, Andrew?

I think the whole idea of the crediting of a production credit can get confusing. Apart from a few instances such as songs released on singles, we don't have a lot of song-by-song production credits on the original releases.

Often, on compilation albums, the production for a given track is simply credited to whomever was credited with producing the whole album when the original album in question only had one full-album production credit.

I see several contradictions between the production credit on WOTS and some previous releases. The GV '93 boxed set credits production of '"409" to Murry Wilson, while WOTS credits it to Brian. The GV boxed set credits Carl and Al for production of "California Saga: California", while WOTS credits only Al. The GV boxed set credits only Brian for producing "'Til I Die", while WOTS credits Carl and Brian. The GV boxed set credits "Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys" on "Surf's Up", while WOTS credits Carl and Brian.

For "All This Is That" on the other hand, the GV set doesn't offer individual credits for production and simply notes that all seven BB's were credited with production on "So Tough."

I could be wrong, but I think a lot if not most of the individual song production credits we've seen on latter-day compilations of material are more for historcal accuracy, using the evidence at hand (namely, AFM and/or other paperwork  and records and simply interviewing the members to ask who produced it) to show who produced a given track, while contractually or technically the production credit goes to whatever the original credit is. So on albums where the production credit simply went to the "Beach Boys", while individual tracks may have been produced by fewer or a single member and then credited as such on later compilations, the producer of record would still be the "Beach Boys."

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's also a wrong production credit

Which one?

"409", produced by Murry (not Brian) at the Western demo session 4/19/62

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Oh snap...that's right...that was one of the "original" demos.

[Ebb and Flow]

Even though I wish they were longer...I'm really digging the podcast for WOTS.

http://beachboyswarmth.blogspot.com/

The latest episode, with Brian playing a little bit of "The Little Girl I Once Knew" on the piano...very cool.  I wish he'd just sit down and record a few piano versions like that.

[MBE]

Are these podcasts video or just audio?

[Eric Aniversario]

Are these podcasts video or just audio?

The first episode is video, the rest are audio only.  Itunes is free so it's definitely worth checking out.

[Ebb and Flow]

If you don't want to deal with Itunes, they're available as mp3's on the sidebar of the blog.

[No. Fourteen]

Just started listening to the podcasts today.  Good stuff!  You get about a minutes worth of comments from Bruce, Al , Mike and Brian for each song.  Nice to hear them focused on the music, rather than the "personal" stuff.

Brian still can't stand "Let Him Run Wild"!

[John]

And Mike seems to have got "...Run Wild" and "Little Girl I Once Knew" mixed up, judging by his humming of the intro. "Run Wild" doesn't even really have an intro.

[Rocker]

And Mike seems to have got "...Run Wild" and "Little Girl I Once Knew" mixed up, judging by his humming of the intro. "Run Wild" doesn't even really have an intro.

As well as "Help me Rhonda" and he talks about that "intro" too, so I guess he just mixed up the meaning of "intro" (or he talked about "Help me Ronda" from Today!, which in a very wide sense has an intro)
What he tried to hum was the 12-string-guitar-part of "Let him run wild" if I understood it right


Re:podcast

I think Bruce's first comments were just terrible. He didn't talk about "It's ok" but talked about how great Mike's two voices were. I mean it's ok if he thinks Mike has a good voice, but nearly everyone can sing in a nasal kind of way and a little softer, there's no big thing about it. To tell you the truth I have the feeling that Bruce tries to show Mike as a little too important, the same way he did when he talked about him as "Mr. cool" in the EH-documentary. Anyway, my opinion, but I don't like Bruce's contributions. For "Catch a wave" he said "Oh yeah, I cought a wave too" and for "Little Honda" "Yeah, I drove those too. the same for "409" where he said iirc "I never was a 409-fan, I liked other cars". I mean why can't he talk about the music as the other guys do? I know he wasn't there when that stuff was recorded, but he sings it every night. Maybe it's my problem but this really annoys me

[Aegir]

I don't know, I can kind of see where he's coming from.. most of these songs he's talking about as an outsider. They should've gotten David to talk about the early songs.

[MBE]

Bruce is hardly my favorite Beach Boy but I kinda thought his imitation of Mike was funny. Yet I did pick up on him kissing up to Mike.

[Rocker]

I don't know, I can kind of see where he's coming from.. most of these songs he's talking about as an outsider. They should've gotten David to talk about the early songs.

I know, he wasn't there and that's ok. But he plays those songs every night, he probably knows some of them them better than Brian, so why can't he talk about the music? He knows much about music so it shouldn't be too hard to talk about how intelligent the harp on "Catch a wave" was used or at least mention that Jan&Dean had a hit with this too. Don't want to hear an old man remembering his youth (I know, technically the others do the same but they talk about the songs, not their life). That's just my point.
I agree, it would've been interesting to hear David talking about the songs he played on.

[Steve Mayo]

WOTS is #56 on the billboard top 200 lp chart this week, it's second week on the chart.

SOS is up to #7 on the pop chart, it's 202nd week on billboard charts.