New Brian version of God only knows

[Exapno Mapcase]

"educated"?

Hey, discuss GIOMH again, if you want to discuss a BW album that sucks,  or  be negative to a project by the Boys themselves and hammer SIP, or settle on the Lovester and have a go at LBWL or all that crap he did with Adrian Baker or Dean Torrence or his fucking awful Christmas song, go ahead, but I've already done that.  This isn't a new album, it's a neat recording of one of his most famous songs for a project that required just that, by the sound of it.  I don't know whether BW has it in him to play with the arrangement of his classics any more, but as the guy's done so much and is pushing 65 (and I've already got the Wally Heider GOK), I'm not particularly stressed.

[Dancing Bear]

Damn, just one step back here, I screwed up with English as my second language. When I wrote "educated" I meant "polite" or "considered". I see how it sounded rude in my original post so I apologize.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Don't worry dude...I know what you meant.

[Exapno Mapcase]

I did too.

[Jonas]

Im pretty sure GOK is gonna be awesome. Though lets be honest, I think what we're all are really looking forward to is that new song. If only they wouldve put a video clip of that song instead, and save us some controversy.

[Sheriff John Stone]

What I heard sounded like a carbon copy of the 1966 track. If he really wanted to take part in this project, I'd suggest a different reading of the song, like the Wally Heider minimalistic version.

You're assuming Brian still has the ability (I can't think of another word to use) to do the song justice with a different arrangement.

Maybe the producer of the project, Phil Ramone, was in charge of the song, and wanted the original arrangement. Then they bring in Brian to say "producer" things like "nail it" and "can I hear another one". He might even throw in a "that sounds f----ing great".

[Amy B.]

Wow, and I thought I was a pessimist. You guys would find fault with anything. If he had done a new arrangement, the response would have been, "Why change perfection?" Even if he had brought in a new singer, like Burt Bacharach did (yes, I know Carl sang the original and this is Brian, but you know what I mean), you would have said, "But Carl's was so great." This was what the project was about-- one old, one new. Whoever decided on this wanted to showcase Brian's best work for what is likely to be a new audience.

And if Brian had sounded bad, people would have said, "See? He can't sing anymore. He should just retire." Since he sounds good, (some) people are calling foul and saying it's all been manipulated, as if nearly every CD on the market isn't manipulated in some way.

If nothing else, Brian's music gets more exposure to people who buy the CD for the other artists. And the original is still out there on MANY different issues and reissues of Pet Sounds.   

[Nathan Snyder]

I visit this site a couple of times every week or so to find up to date insider Beach Boys/Brian Wilson news.   Whenever I find it, though,  I then find multiple pages of posts by what seems to be manic depressives hanging on individual seconds of music comparing and arguing with the engineer of the track as well as what BW should or shouldn't be doing.  I know you guys are here by choice and its my choice to even flip through the pages of posts, but.....gosh....It really gets thick was some of you guys.  New cd with a BW track on it,  cool.  Sounds neat.  Maybe I'll pick it up.  End of conversation.  

[Lola Jane]

Surely, there isn't anything wrong with Brian wanting to redo one of his own songs...?  The PS GOK version is beautiful - and you should see my 5 year old son singing it, mistakes and all (- even more beautiful), and that's the point I'm making.  It isn't the nuts and bolts finished production that makes a song (enhances maybe -sorry Mark Linnett), it's the soul, i.e. what place in your heart it is coming from.

I can't imagine this song coming from any place in Brian's heart other than the nicest, most heartfelt one...   

[shelter]

If you don't like the idea of Brian re-recording GOK, just ignore this CD. Shouldn't be too hard.

Jeez...

[Jonas]

Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production. A lot of these pages are just speculation that the coda sounds exactly like the original. I look forward to hearing the new version just to see if whoever sang it really nailed Bruce's timbre...(huhuh)

Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter.

[the captain]

I have to admit, I don't care one way or the other what Brian did with GOK--I'll listen to it as a curiosity and because I'll buy the disc, but that's it. The concept of the album is for him to put on a remake, so whatever it is, fine. Real harpsichords, fake harpsichords, fine. Bruce or no Bruce, fine. Decide against GOK and do Hey Little Tomboy? Fine. The odds of me liking a new BW version of a BW classic are slim to none (and I LOVE his current band), so I'm not getting too worried about that.

The new track, though, is something I really am looking forward to. I heard the demo and remain intrigued enough that I think it will be worth buying this CD (which, I must admit, I have no interest in whatsoever otherwise...no offense to Richard Marx and whoever else...). My one real hope for that track: his band on bg vox, not the wall-of-out-of-tune Brians. That's it.

[Dancing Bear]

Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production. A lot of these pages are just speculation that the coda sounds exactly like the original. I look forward to hearing the new version just to see if whoever sang it really nailed Bruce's timbre...(huhuh)

Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter.

Agree 100%.

[Exapno Mapcase]

"   Another thing is, I dont think anyone here is really complaining about the new production."

"I agree with Dancing Bear, the whole note for note approach is somewhat bothersome, especially when we compare it to the original."


A big ironic 

[Jonas]

Wheres the irony? I'm not talking about the recording specifically, I'm talking about the idea of re-recording an amazing song (my favorite song ever) over again note for note. I liked the idea of rearranging it ala the Heider sessions...that was a great remake.

[RONDEMON]

Wait...what Heider sessions remake?

[Ebb and Flow]

The one on Endless Harmony.

[bossaroo]

Also, people who come on here to just post about how they're tired of peoples complaining...youre not really adding anything to the topic of conversation, so why not just stay out of it? This is a thread of discussion of the actual music/production not what your opinion is on others peoples feelings of the matter.

calling people dicks isn't really adding much to the conversation either... 

[Jonas]

Right, and by you pointing that out youre adding what to this thread?

exactly. so butt out! 

[Jason]

calling people dicks isn't really adding much to the conversation either... 

You fucking DICK!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Okay...back on topic..

[Exapno Mapcase]

"You fodaing DICK!"

I wondered how long it would take.

[peeping tom]

Geez, looks like i'm back on the Male Ego board again.................

[Dancing Bear]

Those posts remind me of ANOTHER message board. 

Now where are the "that's it I'm leaving" threads? 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Thankfully, this looks like it's all in fun. I'd hope so, otherwise I'd have to get out the good ol' ban hammer...

I'm so full of sh*t!