cigarette smoking in the beach boys

[mtaber]

Those newsletters of mine in the old days were a lot of fun, through them I got to know a lot of very nice people... and Andrew, too!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Those newsletters of mine in the old days were a lot of fun, through them I got to know a lot of very nice people... and Andrew, too!

I have a copy of "Marty Taber" (reworded Johnny Carson") b/w "Celebrate The Newsletter" - if you thought Marty's literary skills were somewhat lacking...  

[The Heartical Don]

Those newsletters of mine in the old days were a lot of fun, through them I got to know a lot of very nice people... and Andrew, too!

I have a copy of "Matry Taber" (reworded Johnny Carson") b/w "Celebrate The Newsletter" - if you thought Marty's literary skills were somewhat lacking... 

  is that legal? If not, I'll have to confiscate it, Sir.

[mtaber]

Andrew - I would respond, but I'm currently in litigation with Mike Love over writing credits...

[Andrew G. Doe]

Andrew - I would respond, but I'm currently in litigation with Mike Love over writing credits...

Ah, trying to get credit for Country Love again, I see. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Those newsletters of mine in the old days were a lot of fun, through them I got to know a lot of very nice people... and Andrew, too!

I have a copy of "Matry Taber" (reworded Johnny Carson") b/w "Celebrate The Newsletter" - if you thought Marty's literary skills were somewhat lacking... 

  is that legal? If not, I'll have to confiscate it, Sir.

Oddly, it is - MT cut it during a visit from Susumu Ogata back in, oh... late 70s ?

[mtaber]

Yeah, Susumu and I did those songs (I use the term loosely) in 1979 or '80, maybe even '81... Carol Kaye could give more detailed information...

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Forgive me for quoting a near 3 year old post, but...

In fact, the only photo of any of the BB I've seen with cigs is Carl (koff, in my own book) circa 1965. Brian, of course, smoked like a chimney during the gigs of the early 80s.

Andrew...dude...there's a picture of Brian in the late 70s (when he got skinny for a bit and had his hair cut short) in your own book and he's got a smoke in his hand!

I also just realized this thread is older than my daughter...

[Rob Dean]

Rob Dean,
My name was almost written correctly. It is Eddy Feiken.

Hey Eddy ,
Sorry about the tippo on your name (close as it was) , BUT hey good to see you on-board !!

[The Heartical Don]

Now that we're at it: what were the favourite brands? I recall Denny preferring unfiltered Larks (according to Gaines) and Brian smoking Marlboros endlessly. Am I right?

[Rocky]

Now that we're at it: what were the favourite brands? I recall Denny preferring unfiltered Larks (according to Gaines) and Brian smoking Marlboros endlessly. Am I right?

i've wondered this as well

[Jay]

Somwhere in this thread, somebody wondered about Brian smoking in the early 1980's during the second Landy "treatment". If you watch the footage of Barbra Ann from the July 4th 1983 show, Brian has a cigarette in the neck of his bass.

[Rocky]

Now that we're at it: what were the favourite brands? I recall Denny preferring unfiltered Larks (according to Gaines) and Brian smoking Marlboros endlessly. Am I right?

  anyone know what Carl smoked. I think i see a Pall Mall pack in the photos of the 1967 Hawaii rehearsal. i could be totally wrong though

[MBE]

I think I remember an interview with Al that said Brian started smoking the last out of the brothers.

[metal flake paint]

Mike said that Carl was a heavy smoker and you can see him having a cig on outtakes of the "Summer days..."-cover.

Even clutching a cig on the actual cover 

[Jay]

I was wondering, did Carl ever smoke onstage? I know there is footage of him in the studio recording while smoking. I was just wondering if during any concerts, Carl put a cigarette in the neck of his guitar.

[metal flake paint]

Not sure about Carl but Mike certainly did during their unedited performance of Heroes and Villains at the Wollman Rink, Central Park, New York NY, July 2nd. He can be spotted with a cig just before the start of the second verse. 

[Rocky]

Not sure about Carl but Mike certainly did during their unedited performance of Heroes and Villains at the Wollman Rink, Central Park, New York NY, July 2nd. He can be spotted with a cig just before the start of the second verse.

thats a little shocking to me

[runnersdialzero]

Cannot believe how well Carl's voice held up given how much he smoked over time. His voice changed over time, sure, but he still sounded damn good up until his passing. Pretty incredible.

[Fall Breaks]

Instead of starting a new topic, I might as well post it here since runners already touched upon the subject:

Did Carl ever comment on how his voice changed through the years? Not like there's anything that strange about it, especially since he was so young for the earliest lead vocals, but you can't help but notice how big a difference there is between, say, "Pom Pom Play Girl", "God Only Knows", "Darlin'", "Our Sweet Love" and "Keepin' the Summer Alive" to name just a few. And I don't mean different vocal approaches here; of course that's one part of it, but these five songs almost sound like they're sung by five different (all highly talented) singers. Carl's thoughts? Your thoughts?

[Emdeeh]

Carl told my spouse in 1985 (not long after he quit smoking) that he wished he'd taken better care of his voice over the years.

[MBE]

I really hear a change in Carl's voice on the Surf's Up album. Then after 1981-82 it again got huskier. He still sounded like Carl to me though.

[Fall Breaks]

Hey, if he sounded that good without taking care of his voice, imaging how it would've sounded if he had...

[Shady]

Not sure about Carl but Mike certainly did during their unedited performance of Heroes and Villains at the Wollman Rink, Central Park, New York NY, July 2nd. He can be spotted with a cig just before the start of the second verse. 

So Mike actually smoked, that is shocking.

[The Heartical Don]

Not sure about Carl but Mike certainly did during their unedited performance of Heroes and Villains at the Wollman Rink, Central Park, New York NY, July 2nd. He can be spotted with a cig just before the start of the second verse. 

So Mike actually smoked, that is shocking.

Can he be sued? For having been a corrupting influence on minors, or something? Just a thought...