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« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2023, 06:25:18 AM »

Patiently waiting for AI fix the vocal flub in Soulful Old Man Shunshine...
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« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2023, 06:27:51 AM »

First off, seltaeb, if you would like me to start my own thread I surely will. I don't wanna hijack your awesome work, but I feel it's a little redundant to create another AI thread.

Second... I have a question for you all...

Do you Like Worms?
https://youtu.be/Gdeh72-mFoA

I'm working on the full track, as well as a few more pieces of Smile. I have a separate model from seltaeb I've been training myself. I'm not perfect at performing for it yet either! That said, let me know what you think! I figure, since it isn't "real" I should add a bit of my own arrangement while keeping it true to the vision as closely as can be with the limited info and lack of recordings.

So excited to share the whole Smile mix with you all! I have a lot more going on here than just the AI vocals!

Great work! Being totally ignorant of how hard the process of making this stuff is, could you possibly make an alternate version with Brian's found melody from TSS? I would love to hear someone's interpretation of that.
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God mustíve smiled the day Brian Wilson was born!

"ragegasm" - /rāj ē ga-zəm/ : a logical mental response produced when your favorite band becomes remotely associated with the bro-country genre.

Ever want to hear some Beach Boys songs mashed up together like The Beatles' 'LOVE' album? Check out my mix!
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« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2023, 06:39:17 AM »

Great work! Being totally ignorant of how hard the process of making this stuff is, could you possibly make an alternate version with Brian's found melody from TSS? I would love to hear someone's interpretation of that.

Thank you!! Smiley
Absolutely! This was one of the things I tried, I just don't know how the rest of the lyrics would fit into that scheme  LOL Definitely worth exploring though!
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« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2023, 06:45:39 AM »

Great work! Being totally ignorant of how hard the process of making this stuff is, could you possibly make an alternate version with Brian's found melody from TSS? I would love to hear someone's interpretation of that.

Absolutely! This was one of the things I tried, I just don't know how the rest of the lyrics would fit into that scheme  LOL Definitely worth exploring though!

Awesome! Yeah I remember a thread on here from back in 2011 (can you all believe that was 12 some years ago?) where some people tried to piece how that melody would complete itself....but that was just in that one line...like you say, making all the rest of the lyrics fit into that will be a challenge! Looking forward to this and your other Smile AI creations!
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« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2023, 01:11:18 PM »

I may be jumping the gun a bit on the mix (I will clean that up for the full release!) but I couldn't wait to share my full-vocal-ed mix of Do You Like Worms!

https://youtu.be/_7lOI-tU1lQ

The notes on the video explain a lot, so I'll let it speak for itself. Please enjoy!!
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« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2023, 04:28:41 PM »

I may be jumping the gun a bit on the mix (I will clean that up for the full release!) but I couldn't wait to share my full-vocal-ed mix of Do You Like Worms!

https://youtu.be/_7lOI-tU1lQ

The notes on the video explain a lot, so I'll let it speak for itself. Please enjoy!!

That is absolutely mind-blowing stuff...stay with it and take all the time you need (to quote a certain sourpuss over at the nearest faraway place) to bring it all back home. This represents a fascinating new phase in the still-ongoing saga of SMiLE, and I think if it's handled responsibly and respectfully (as it appears that you and seltaeb are both doing), we'll all have some very intriguiing things to listen to...and possibly even have world peace!  3D
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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2023, 06:37:52 PM »

Great work! Being totally ignorant of how hard the process of making this stuff is, could you possibly make an alternate version with Brian's found melody from TSS? I would love to hear someone's interpretation of that.

Absolutely! This was one of the things I tried, I just don't know how the rest of the lyrics would fit into that scheme  LOL Definitely worth exploring though!

Awesome! Yeah I remember a thread on here from back in 2011 (can you all believe that was 12 some years ago?) where some people tried to piece how that melody would complete itself....but that was just in that one line...like you say, making all the rest of the lyrics fit into that will be a challenge! Looking forward to this and your other Smile AI creations!


This was my 2011 attempt to fit the DYLW lyrics to the melody found on the Smile Sessions. It incorporates a bit of Little Pad to round out the line. And while Iím certainly not a singer, I bet AI Brian could make it sound pretty decent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2RpdU8Bep28


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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2023, 08:16:01 AM »

That is a really great interpretation! I just, personally, can't get the other lines in the song to fit into that structure  LOL

Don't wanna overshare, the surprise is part of the fun after all, but I put up a short of some progress.
https://youtube.com/shorts/58GyNt3kCGg?feature=share

Having a lot of fun with this! Hope you all enjoy it as much as I do making it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2023, 03:32:00 PM »

Seriously blown away by DYLW with Brian on lead. AI obviously has a huge potential and I hope it can be used to further furthere "restoration" to the Beach Boys sometimes incomplete archives of incredible material. The way I view it, this is no different than reassembling and augmenting the columns for the restoration of the Parthenon in Athens. We know what the lyrics would have been but we just don't have them anymore. That we use our technology to attempt and replicate what might've been is no different.
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« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2023, 07:13:42 PM »

First off, thank you and thank you to everyone else who has commented on YT Smiley I really appreciate the feedback and I hope the full project lives up to the expectations set!

Cabinessenceking, I completely agree. When I started BOOKOFF Smile, I just aimed to remaster all the tracks into the cleanest FLAC Stereo mixes modern AI could facilitate. I found myself singing along to the songs and imagining... but being able to hear just a tiny bit of how it MAY have sounded... it gets the brain juice pumping and really starts to fill in the blanks. I hope the feeling is just as strong with the other tracks!

Love to Say Dada... what a track. In Blue Hawaii has some of my favorite vocals on BWPS... I'm giving it my all and really trying to capture the arrangement as close to a Brian sound as I can. Obviously, the more vocals missing the harder the task... DYLW was close to finished compared to these! 
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« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2023, 11:29:56 PM »

Can I ask whether the idea of using an isolated BWPS vocal is possible, desirable, or effective as the input for processing? I have to admit that reading the steps required for this tech left me no closer to understanding how it works or how to use it, so I have absolutely no idea if using a modern era Brian lead would work, but Iíd be interested to know whether thatís beneficial at all.

Similarly, replacing an isolated Carl vocal with AI Brian etc, is that an option and does it work in aiming for a Brian-like sound?
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« Reply #61 on: April 09, 2023, 03:18:57 AM »

First off, thank you and thank you to everyone else who has commented on YT Smiley I really appreciate the feedback and I hope the full project lives up to the expectations set!

Cabinessenceking, I completely agree. When I started BOOKOFF Smile, I just aimed to remaster all the tracks into the cleanest FLAC Stereo mixes modern AI could facilitate. I found myself singing along to the songs and imagining... but being able to hear just a tiny bit of how it MAY have sounded... it gets the brain juice pumping and really starts to fill in the blanks. I hope the feeling is just as strong with the other tracks!

Love to Say Dada... what a track. In Blue Hawaii has some of my favorite vocals on BWPS... I'm giving it my all and really trying to capture the arrangement as close to a Brian sound as I can. Obviously, the more vocals missing the harder the task... DYLW was close to finished compared to these! 

So 'On A Holiday' is one of my favorite tracks from BWPS but my least favorite from TSS (or any other vintage mix) due to the quality. Has there been any improvement to the sound of that track with the AI stuff?

I've never understood why the stereo version of Pet Sounds sounds so pristine (like you're sitting there in the studio) and yet for many Smile tracks it sounds like they were recorded on a portable tape recorder then dubbed to an acetate, played 12 times, etc.
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God mustíve smiled the day Brian Wilson was born!

"ragegasm" - /rāj ē ga-zəm/ : a logical mental response produced when your favorite band becomes remotely associated with the bro-country genre.

Ever want to hear some Beach Boys songs mashed up together like The Beatles' 'LOVE' album? Check out my mix!
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« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2023, 03:21:09 AM »

Great work! Being totally ignorant of how hard the process of making this stuff is, could you possibly make an alternate version with Brian's found melody from TSS? I would love to hear someone's interpretation of that.

Absolutely! This was one of the things I tried, I just don't know how the rest of the lyrics would fit into that scheme  LOL Definitely worth exploring though!

Awesome! Yeah I remember a thread on here from back in 2011 (can you all believe that was 12 some years ago?) where some people tried to piece how that melody would complete itself....but that was just in that one line...like you say, making all the rest of the lyrics fit into that will be a challenge! Looking forward to this and your other Smile AI creations!


This was my 2011 attempt to fit the DYLW lyrics to the melody found on the Smile Sessions. It incorporates a bit of Little Pad to round out the line. And while Iím certainly not a singer, I bet AI Brian could make it sound pretty decent.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2RpdU8Bep28


That must be what I'm remembering! Great idea mixing in some Little Pad melody.
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"ragegasm" - /rāj ē ga-zəm/ : a logical mental response produced when your favorite band becomes remotely associated with the bro-country genre.

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« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2023, 12:44:22 PM »

That is a really great interpretation! I just, personally, can't get the other lines in the song to fit into that structure  LOL

Don't wanna overshare, the surprise is part of the fun after all, but I put up a short of some progress.
https://youtube.com/shorts/58GyNt3kCGg?feature=share

Having a lot of fun with this! Hope you all enjoy it as much as I do making it.

Hello! Logging in from the distant past to say: VERY much enjoying the Smile stuff, BUT:

It's BEADED cheering Indians, not BEARDED!

As myself an "Indian" (Anishinaabe / Metis), I can tell you: growing beards is not our strong suit in any way! Many tribes haven't facial hair at all. Beads, on the other hand, are a staple of most tribes!

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« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2023, 01:31:04 PM »

(In all other ways, that's a thing of beauty, and I'm sure Blue Hawaii will be same)
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« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2023, 02:02:33 PM »

That is a really great interpretation! I just, personally, can't get the other lines in the song to fit into that structure  LOL

Don't wanna overshare, the surprise is part of the fun after all, but I put up a short of some progress.
https://youtube.com/shorts/58GyNt3kCGg?feature=share

Having a lot of fun with this! Hope you all enjoy it as much as I do making it.

Hello! Logging in from the distant past to say: VERY much enjoying the Smile stuff, BUT:

It's BEADED cheering Indians, not BEARDED!

As myself an "Indian" (Anishinaabe / Metis), I can tell you: growing beards is not our strong suit in any way! Many tribes haven't facial hair at all. Beads, on the other hand, are a staple of most tribes!



Ah shoot! You're damn right! I'll be sure to correct this, thank you very much!!
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« Reply #66 on: April 10, 2023, 06:49:05 PM »

In addition to the Old Man "Shunshine" fix, I propose 2 more:

- Correct the offkey introduction to Spirit of Rock N Roll (from the Hallmark album)

- Add some other BB voices to Brian's I've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
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« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2023, 06:40:47 AM »

Excellent work you two.
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« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2023, 10:28:55 AM »

The way this is going, it's insane to imagine where this technology could end up, imagine 60s Brian Wilson singing I Feel Love as produced by Giorgio Morodor  Grin
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« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2023, 02:02:37 PM »

Patiently waiting for AI fix the vocal flub in Soulful Old Man Shunshine...

Are we *sure* Carl didn't mean to sing "Soulful old man SHINE shine shine your light divine on me"?
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« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2023, 07:50:43 PM »

Hey all, this will be my last update for a bit... I've been working on this basically non-stop!  LOL



BOOKOFF Smile will release tomorrow at 5pm EST. I've got a YouTube Premier set up here:

YouTube ruined all the fun! Despite more than 80% of the video being heavily modified content, I doubt my claim against it will win... so I've posted it to Vimeo below! I have *FLAC quality sourced versions* of the songs that I hope to find a way to legally share at some point. As I mentioned, I have put plenty of blood sweat and tears into pretty much every track, so fair use should cover most of it (especially unmonetized)

Here's the link to check it out: https://vimeo.com/817502458
(Download link is in the main thread)

I'll probably make a thread for it in the Smile section of the forum, since I have quite a few more things planned to post alongside it (isolated vocals, the AI model, tutorials... etc)

I sincerely hope you all enjoy it! As much as it is a labor of love to Smile, it's also a labor of love to the fanbase and this site in particular. I remember being here 10 years ago talking about these songs, and here I am today still doing the same!  Wink

It's sure to move a million units... today!
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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2023, 05:43:18 AM »

I haven't posted here in years but I did just want to add a note here to say that I think you're both doing a great job and, hey, if anyone wants to PM me to let me know what you are using to create these sounds, please don't hesitate!  Wink
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« Reply #72 on: April 14, 2023, 11:20:52 PM »


Here's the link to check it out: https://vimeo.com/817502458
(Download link is in the main thread)


Guess Iím dumb, but I donít know what you mean by ďthe main thread,Ē and I canít find a download link. Muchas gracias!
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« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2023, 02:08:30 PM »


Here's the link to check it out: https://vimeo.com/817502458
(Download link is in the main thread)


Guess Iím dumb, but I donít know what you mean by ďthe main thread,Ē and I canít find a download link. Muchas gracias!

Not dumb!! Here's a link Smiley
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28324.msg682179/boardseen.html#new
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« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2023, 02:23:58 PM »


Here's the link to check it out: https://vimeo.com/817502458
(Download link is in the main thread)


Guess Iím dumb, but I donít know what you mean by ďthe main thread,Ē and I canít find a download link. Muchas gracias!

Not dumb!! Here's a link Smiley
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,28324.msg682179/boardseen.html#new

Thank you!! I have never in 20 years or so wandered into the Beach Boys media section (or even noticed it existed). I will download this and listen to it this afternoon!
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