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« on: September 03, 2022, 06:56:29 AM »

I just learned from David Leaf's updated book that Jerry Weiss who has been a long time friend and supporter on Brian's tours retired after 2021's fall dates.  I have to wonder; was his absence from the Chicago tour dates maybe partly responsible for Brian's "depressed" behaviour?  David mentions how very important it is to Brian to have "emotional security" to help him stay motivated. 
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2022, 07:54:00 AM »

It's certainly possible that Jerry's absence didn't help the situation this summer.  But Brian is 80 now, and like the song says, "I know he's had his ups and downs."  As someone who observed him live this summer as well as a couple times in 2019, my hunch is that Brian's late-career touring act likely would have been winding down about now regardless of touring personnel or any other factor.  And that's okay.  The man has certainly given us all enough.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2022, 08:30:59 AM »

The person looking after Brian on the road has varied. Jerry did it, but Jeff Foskett had the role for much of the time he was with the band, I believe. Lawlor might have pitched in for a tour too, although I donít recall.
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2022, 06:46:42 AM »

I just learned from David Leaf's updated book that Jerry Weiss who has been a long time friend and supporter on Brian's tours retired after 2021's fall dates.  I have to wonder; was his absence from the Chicago tour dates maybe partly responsible for Brian's "depressed" behaviour?

Unlikely.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2022, 04:53:19 AM »

I think more likely what affected Brian this year was just...the tour itself. It's just *not* what he's used to. So many dates, large venues, outdoor venues...last year he was great, almost like 2001 all over again. But this year, yeah, he was just not comfy.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2022, 12:34:27 PM »

I'm sure he'll be back to his normal routine next year - a run of medium sized theater dates. Brian Wilson as an opening act was a mistake. He deserves a full show all to himself.
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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2022, 05:55:43 AM »

I'm sure he'll be back to his normal routine next year - a run of medium sized theater dates. Brian Wilson as an opening act was a mistake. He deserves a full show all to himself.

He has been an opening act before for both Paul Simon and Jeff Beck.  And as maligned as the latter tour eventually became, it was pretty cool to see both bands up onstage performing "Surf's Up" amongst other things together. 

And sadly it would not be surprising if Brian doesn't continue to tour any further.  I think both his mental and physical health issues are truly catching up with him at his age. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2022, 09:52:10 AM »

I hope Brian is and continues to feel good, and do whatever he can and wants.

But Iím perplexed as to how the nature of that Chicago tour would cause the challenges that Brian clearly had. The shows were *shorter* than usual, and the venues were pretty similar to venues Brian has played in the past, and Brian has done joint tours before.

Now, it being a Chicago co-headlining tour is probably a very good explanation for why they finished out the tour and didnít cancel dates; as difficult as it is to cancel shows/a tour, it becomes even more complicated with a double billing like that.

But I donít think thereís any evidence that the shape Brian was in on these dates had anything to do with the *nature* of the Chicago tour. Again, if anything, those shows were a lighter load on Brian than most past tours considering the shows were shorter and they still had Darian, Matt, Al, and Blondie all taking leads (and not even counting the extra leads they took on during shows where Brian would just stop singing).

I donít think itís good to extensively dwell on things, especially with little concrete info to work off of beyond observation, but I also think we need to be realistic. Setting aside the *cause*, I think itís very clear Brian was in very rough shape on this last tour, and it kind of makes me a little uncomfortable when fans kind of just put on blinders to this and act like itís likely heíll be back to like even 2015 touring shape any time soon, if ever. Iím not saying anyone canít be as optimistic as they want, even if it strains plausibility. But I think the most realistic possibilities that are probably worth discussing at this stage, outside of full retirement with a hope that Brianís still happy relaxing and doing whatever, is that *maybe* Brian could bounce back to like 2019-2021 levels of performance quality. 

I donít know if everybody here saw Brianís ďHappy BirthdayĒ wishes for Al posted a few weeks ago on Alís b-day video on YouTube. Great to see Brian hopefully doing well. But heís definitely having problems speaking (or I suppose I should say enunciating) let alone singing. I donít know any details on this specifically, so I donít know if itís a dental issue, or some other medical-type issues, or just age really catching up, etc. But I think his speech on that video tells us that Brian is hopefully relaxing and taking it easy at home, and also tells us that heíd probably still having the same singing challenges that he had on that Chicago tour. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2022, 01:08:15 PM »

Thereís definitely something up, because the enunciation issue is not newÖ itís been there (and gotten worse) since about 2016 or so, like he has to force the sound to come out. Itís only relatively recently that itís been affecting his speech to this extent. Basically when his mobility started decreasing.
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