Dennis and Bruce as Beach Boys

[Dancing Bear]

And how can it be possibly argued that it was in any way Dennis' fault his songs weren't being included on albums? His songs were left off Surf's Up entirely

Good question. Why were Dennis tracks left off Surf's Up? Was it Dennis' fault? 

[Jon Stebbins]

Dennis pulled his track or tracks from Surf's Up because of an argument with Carl over sequencing. This is a rare case of Carl and Dennis in a power struggle, and the album suffered for sure. Dennis rarely questioned Carl's judgment and Carl normally fought for Dennis' songs.

Go back and read the press from the time of the Good Vibrations Box Set, there is a specific quote from Carl about how he had to "fight" to get some of Dennis' songs included on the set. If that box set had been released after Carl's death we would have gotten Forever (maybe) and nothing else.

[John]

Yeah, but as devils advocate...we did get "Barbara" and "Time To Live In Dreams" after Carl's death...

[CosmicDancer]

I had no idea that Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again was passed over for TWOTS!  That is infuriating!!!!!  This is insane!  Why can't they understand what they are missing by not giving the fans what they want to hear!  What a kick in the pants!

[MBE]

Let's ask Alan about this. Though I want to hear it too, maybe it wasn't the right place for it. We need another archive release. No more Stereo- Mono remixing or vocals only etc.  Just unreleased songs

[adamghost]

Alan Boyd and Mark Linett, as archivist and engineer for the Beach Boys, respectively, have done everything they can to catalog the unreleased BBs and Wilson material and make the case, where appropriate, for having it released.  From the standpoint of an outside observer, they are both real heroes and for example, they've both been pushing for "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" to be released for years now.  But it's not up to them; it's not their decision to make.  All they can do is tell the powers that be what's there and make suggestions.

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Yes, Alan and Mark have both gone to extraordinary lengths to get stuff including WIBNTLA released.  They've both probably lost sleep and lost a few years off their lives with all the stress they go through.  And being fans themselves, I believe they are truly heartbroken when they can't share the cool music they find with you.

It's in EMI's hands, and in BRI member's hands; hopefully something will happen.

[MBE]

Oh I know they are sincere about getting this stuff out. I just wondered about the story behind how it got mooted for and then rejected from the Warmth Of The Sun.

[shelter]

We need another archive release. No more Stereo- Mono remixing or vocals only etc.  Just unreleased songs

Amen to that!

[CosmicDancer]

Alan Boyd and Mark Linett, as archivist and engineer for the Beach Boys, respectively, have done everything they can to catalog the unreleased BBs and Wilson material and make the case, where appropriate, for having it released.  From the standpoint of an outside observer, they are both real heroes and for example, they've both been pushing for "Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" to be released for years now.  But it's not up to them; it's not their decision to make.  All they can do is tell the powers that be what's there and make suggestions.

I didn't mean to accuse Alan or Mark of being the reason that WIBNTLA didn't make WOTS.  I was just voicing my disdain for EMI and/or BRI members for shooting that stuff down.  Sorry if they took offense.