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« Reply #2450 on: November 21, 2020, 10:09:25 PM »

Okay, so what is this supposed to be?

Looks like nothing
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« Reply #2451 on: November 21, 2020, 10:42:09 PM »

Okay, so what is this supposed to be?

Looks like nothing

Well, I don't know about nothing. I'm sure it's not an official release if that's what you mean but it still seems interesting enough to me. You can play 30 second previews of the tracks and some of it I have never heard before.
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« Reply #2452 on: November 22, 2020, 12:09:27 AM »

It's surely got to be something related to FF. I mean, there are incomplete tracks on there with parts missing, and session chatter on some tracks... you couldn't generate those without access to the multitracks, I would have thought. It's not just a Spleeter job either... the tracks sound smoother than that, and also there are some where you have the backing track AND backing vocals, but no lead. That would be hard to create convincingly in Spleeter, it seems to me. But of course, I could be wrong...

Curious about what the weird-sounding Surf's Up 'Pt I' track is, too (Track 53). It sounds like Brian's December 66 lead from the piano-only session dubbed over an instrumental track that I'm not familiar with. It's not the long-lost Surf's Up part two, though, as the title and a quick listen to the preview make clear (it's pretty clearly the first part of the song).

An attempted re-record of the part I backing track, so that Brian's 66 lead could be used in 1971? Wasn't there talk that they'd tried something like that?

I've forgotten more than I ever knew about this (if that even makes sense), but I seem to recall that:

The band wanted to use the 1966 Part I instrumental backing with Brian's separately recorded vocal from the December-only piano session. They tried to fly it in, but 1970s tech being what it was, they couldn't get the result to fit well. So... wasn't it said sometime that they tried to re-record the backing track TO the vocal, as that was the only way they could get it to fit? But couldn't make that sound decent either, so... they tried to get Brian to re-sing his Part I vocal over the 1966 Part I Wrecking Crew backing. And then Brian wouldn't do that EITHER... so they got Carl to do it. And that's the Surf's Up version we got to hear on the album.

So this might be the backing track they tried to re-record to the vocal. Maybe. Or maybe I've got this totally scrambled. Somebody throw me a bone here...?
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« Reply #2453 on: November 22, 2020, 02:06:52 AM »



There is no way that is not connected to the official release.
And I think you are right regarding track 53, Matt.


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« Reply #2454 on: November 22, 2020, 02:08:40 AM »

Okay, so what is this supposed to be?

This is legit, preview tracks are playable and include everything youtube was flagging for copyright.

Ton of exciting stuff here alongside some noticeable song omissions. Is this Feel Flows? And if not, what is it?
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« Reply #2455 on: November 22, 2020, 02:09:43 AM »

Since when is Tony Asher credited on Loop de Loop?  Mistake or have I been missing Tony's connection to that ditty for all these years?
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« Reply #2456 on: November 22, 2020, 02:53:33 AM »

What's missing? I got so confused through the course of this labyrinthine, up-and-down thread, that I honestly can't remember what was supposed to be on this set that now seems, er... NOT to be on it.

*IF* this thing IS Feel Flows, of course. Or part of it. Which... it might not be...

Ah, business as usual at Beach Boys Central...!    Smiley
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« Reply #2457 on: November 22, 2020, 02:55:24 AM »

FEEL FLOWS is alive, well, and thriving.
No one will be disappointed.



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« Reply #2458 on: November 22, 2020, 02:59:43 AM »

What's missing? I got so confused through the course of this labyrinthine, up-and-down thread, that I honestly can't remember what was supposed to be on this set that now seems, er... NOT to be on it.

*IF* this thing IS Feel Flows, of course. Or part of it. Which... it might not be...

Ah, business as usual at Beach Boys Central...!    Smiley

Break Away, Celebrate the News, Lady, most things Dennis (Howie previously mentioned about 25 mins of Poops material, all that's there is Ecology). Plus, would they really release the Loop De Loop backing track without first putting out a mix with Al's original vocals? ...Would they?
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« Reply #2459 on: November 22, 2020, 04:24:41 AM »

Fair point. I'm just thinking... if I was managing the launch of this thing, I might release news of just a few bits of it at a time. So might this just be *some* of the content... with more to come?

Sadly, I have no idea if this is the case or not; I'm just speculating. But certainly there is no mention of the original albums in this playlist — the tracks excerpted here that *are* from the original Sunflower and Surf's Up albums are different in some way to the standard album mixes. So that's at least one disc's worth of set that seems to be missing from this, er... whatever it is on-line (mindful of the fact that both albums fitted on one CD back in the 2000 reissues).

Not that I would be disappointed if this was 'it', mind. The point is: to a long-standing fan like me, if this IS the whole of FF, I'm already in; it's worth the price of admission already. But if they announce another couple of discs' worth next week, say, with even more goodies on it, communities like this and the 'other place' are going to go through the roof. They're sure to sell a million units in... er... whenever it is it comes out.

Well, OK... not a million. You know what I mean. There won't be a fan who won't want it, is what I'm trying to say. A staggered announcement might be the launch plan.

Having said that, the last few copyright releases just seemed to *appear* in December with no launch or marketing plan at all... so why should this one be any different?   Smiley
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« Reply #2460 on: November 22, 2020, 04:40:31 AM »

Have you listened to some of those samples? Oh boy, oh boy...  Shocked
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« Reply #2461 on: November 22, 2020, 04:57:03 AM »

Wait what? Whereabouts can I find these samples? Thanks.

Never mind, FOUND THEM! (Edit).
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« Reply #2462 on: November 22, 2020, 05:34:44 AM »

WOW (samples)
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« Reply #2463 on: November 22, 2020, 05:58:07 AM »

Isn't it a great feeling when a thread like this, which has run into the sands of circular unfounded speculation for months, suddenly starts moving again with some REAL information on progress?    Grin
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« Reply #2464 on: November 22, 2020, 07:14:42 AM »

WOWWW those samples get me excited!
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« Reply #2465 on: November 22, 2020, 07:18:47 AM »

What a nice surprise on this gloomy Sunday morning!
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« Reply #2466 on: November 22, 2020, 07:19:42 AM »

The label listed is Capitol, and it contains stuff we've not heard before. So whatever it is, it's clearly official in some capacity.
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« Reply #2467 on: November 22, 2020, 07:37:38 AM »

Okay, so what is this supposed to be?


Whatever it is, it sounds great!




Since when is Tony Asher credited on Loop de Loop?  Mistake or have I been missing Tony's connection to that ditty for all these years?


Wasn't Al credited on this version (as opposed to "Sail Plane Song")?
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« Reply #2468 on: November 22, 2020, 07:46:12 AM »

Shocked Shocked Shocked Thank you hapman for posting that!

Really flipping for some reason over the sample for the “Back Home” piano demo (track 25)… man, Al has a great voice. And have we ever heard Al sing as low as on track 42?

Also, very interesting to hear the sample of “Sweet And Bitter,” much more stripped back than the version we’ve heard before. In the Q & A that Mark and Alan did with the Beach Boys Discord channel a couple years back, Alan mentioned that Don Goldberg had ended up with the only tapes for “SaB” containing Mike’s lead on them, so BRI must have teamed up with Don to get that together for this set. (Also, if memory serves me, didn’t Terry Jacks end up with some of the tapes for the Beach Boys’ “Season in the Sun”? Wonder if he was of any help for this set as well.)
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« Reply #2469 on: November 22, 2020, 07:46:21 AM »

My Solution sounds great!
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« Reply #2470 on: November 22, 2020, 07:48:05 AM »

Track #59, the 'Til I Die piano demo. Cheesy
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« Reply #2471 on: November 22, 2020, 07:57:14 AM »

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« Reply #2472 on: November 22, 2020, 07:57:42 AM »

All the samples https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6570o9dAr4Q
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« Reply #2473 on: November 22, 2020, 08:01:45 AM »

Looks like I have something to write for my next column.
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« Reply #2474 on: November 22, 2020, 08:11:22 AM »

Thanks Elora!
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