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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on October 30, 2020, 11:50:59 AM
The 1971 re-recorded version they tried?
Oh, wow, very cool if it's that. I don't think I'm alone in always wondering what that sounded like.
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Same here!
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Quote from: mtaber on October 30, 2020, 08:06:52 AM
I know Dennis’ material has been a focus of discussions here, but, considering the set is called Feel Flows, I’m hoping there’s a bunch of Carl stuff that’s previously unknown on this set.
That would be a nice surprise. The way people go on and on about Dennis' music, well...I'd like to see similar enthusiasm for what the baby brother brought to the group.
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Man, I really needed this good news. Thanks to all involved.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on October 30, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: mtaber on October 30, 2020, 08:06:52 AM
I know Dennis’ material has been a focus of discussions here, but, considering the set is called Feel Flows, I’m hoping there’s a bunch of Carl stuff that’s previously unknown on this set.
That would be a nice surprise. The way people go on and on about Dennis' music, well...I'd like to see similar enthusiasm for what the baby brother brought to the group.
I think there's a lot of appreciation for Carl as a singer and defacto group leader in this period, as well as his role as a co-producer for most of these sessions. Still, Dennis was the much more prolific writer, and the comparative quality of their solo efforts speaks for itself imo. Writing just doesn't seem to have been a big priority for Carl - or at least not consistently over time.
I'd love to be proven wrong though. One does have to suspect that he wrote more than just three songs in the 71-73 period - he must at least have tossed off a few practice songs before coming up with something as good as Long Promised Road.
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I’m excited to see additional Brian stuff whether as a writer or as a vocalist. I’m almost certain we’ll hear a song we’ve never heard of before from him. That’s just a hunch based on past releases. This is my favorite period of him vocally so looking forward to it.
I keep going back to that Surfs up alternate version
I wonder too....could we possibly get the shows where Brian replaced mike in better sound? 😱
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If they actually have a decent quality recording of one of the shows where Brian subbed for mike, I might be ok with losing some of the Dennis material.
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Quote from: Jay on October 31, 2020, 01:36:52 AM
If they actually have a decent quality recording of one of the shows where Brian subbed for mike, I might be ok with losing some of the Dennis material.
And as they used to say in my family (more or less): "If your uncle was a lady, he'd be your aunt".
Confusingly, now I look back, I think it actually *was* my uncle who used to say that. Perhaps he was trying to tell us all something...?
But you take my point - it's about as uncertain as can be (at least to 99 percent of the uninformed target market for this set, including myself) what this mystery release might contain. Firstly, hardly anyone knows exhaustively *what* recordings exist for this period at all, and of those that do know, they are probably not going to tell us publicly, for very sensible reasons. Secondly, it seems likely (but is again actually just speculation) that of the stuff that exists, only some of it will come out on this set, assuming, of course, that this set ever does come out. Thirdly, the line-up of what might have been slated to come out at one point may have been changed since the original speculatory news leaked out. But actually we don't know this either, as that's all just hearsay and speculation too and also hasn't been anything like confirmed.
So: we don't know what the big circle in the Venn diagram comprises (the set of all 1969-1971 recordings that might possibly be included). We don't know what the smaller circle within that set comprises (the set of recordings that may allegedly, at one point, have been slated for release before the end of this year on something that, it seems likely, would have been called Feel Flows. Probably). And we don't know for sure yet if that smaller circle has changed and if so, what to.
That's quite a lot of what Donald Rumsfeld (lawd lavv'im) called 'unknown unknowns', right there.
I thought unravelling SMiLE or 'Can't Wait Too Long' was impossible enough, but at least we had a tracklisting for the former and some recordings for the latter. This set, at least at time of writing, seems even more elusively impossible to pin down. It's a riddle wrapped inside an enigma and sat on by at least two probable iterations of Schrödinger's Cat (Schrödinger's *Set*, anyone?
). Although hopefully it won't be long before that changes...
Disclaimer: as usual in these matters, I know nothing and am privy to precisely no inside info. It's dull but true.
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October 31, 2020, 09:54:57 AM »
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Quote from: HeyJude on October 28, 2020, 12:19:44 PM
Quote from: Howie Edelson on October 28, 2020, 06:26:30 AM
Things are good. It's moving forward.
A huge extra repeated thanks is owed to Howie and the team of folks behind the scenes (Boyd, Linett, etc.) who do more to make this stuff happen than you'll ever know.
And I think the fans who have kept the discussion going on this and kept it on the public/internet radar should also offer themselves and each other a thanks as well. It truly *has* made a difference. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. I know we'll all stay vigilant/cautiously optimistic, etc. as things move forward. We all know with the BBs that we're never fully out of the woods until the product is out there in our figurative if not literal hands. But this latest news is good. I'm glad folks know that things are moving forward now.
The behind the scenes stories are interesting, and always ongoing, and there will be plenty of time in the future to ruminate on all of that. Right now, let's get this material in our ear holes....
Do we know if a 2020 physical release off the table yet, or still a possibility?
From a post of his October 12:
Quote from: Howie Edelson on October 12, 2020, 04:14:09 PM
Hopefully it all gets sorted out and we have this thing by shorts weather.
So now we know it has been sorted out and is moving forward, but I'm wondering if too much time has passed for this to be released this year. Howie's shorts weather comment makes me think it'll be next year - but I'm not sure how the copyright snag fits into this. Hopefully we get some details soon.
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Quote from: Jay on October 31, 2020, 01:36:52 AM
If they actually have a decent quality recording of one of the shows where Brian subbed for mike, I might be ok with losing some of the Dennis material.
I kinda doubt Mike would be super happy about releasing a *full* show like that, which would/could show how the band was able to sound great completely minus him... maybe mayybe one song from one of those shows, if such a recording existed, but even then I'm not sure he'd be exactly keen on that idea.
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The only show I am aware from when Brian subbed for Mike that circulates is the spring 1970 Seattle show-I quite enjoy that boot but the sound is poor. I get the sense that it was an audience recording rather then something taped by desper-hence I question how much they could improve the audio of that if they don’t have any multitracks of the show in their vaults
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Quote from: Tom on October 30, 2020, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: Lonely Summer on October 30, 2020, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: mtaber on October 30, 2020, 08:06:52 AM
I know Dennis’ material has been a focus of discussions here, but, considering the set is called Feel Flows, I’m hoping there’s a bunch of Carl stuff that’s previously unknown on this set.
That would be a nice surprise. The way people go on and on about Dennis' music, well...I'd like to see similar enthusiasm for what the baby brother brought to the group.
I think there's a lot of appreciation for Carl as a singer and defacto group leader in this period, as well as his role as a co-producer for most of these sessions. Still, Dennis was the much more prolific writer, and the comparative quality of their solo efforts speaks for itself imo. Writing just doesn't seem to have been a big priority for Carl - or at least not consistently over time.
I'd love to be proven wrong though. One does have to suspect that he wrote more than just three songs in the 71-73 period - he must at least have tossed off a few practice songs before coming up with something as good as Long Promised Road.
I'm the one person who got much more enjoyment from 'Carl Wilson' and 'Youngblood' than 'Pacific Ocean Blue' - although i much prefer POB to the stuff the group was putting out in 76-78.
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Love both Feel Flows and Long Promised Road, and while I'm a big fan of Dennis, I'm very happy to (hopefully) hear what else Carl was doing in this era.
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While we wait ... a little less impatiently ... enjoy ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCGyYJjW5Fo
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DELETED ... Double post ... darn the internet ...
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Wow, Blondie on drums, Ricky on guitar, the Dragons , Dennis D. on drums and Daryl on organ, a cool Eddie Carter.....and of course, Carl Wilson! Never knew Blondie played drums!
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All of this talk of Feel Flows reminds me of this Feel Flows homage from a band called Maple Mars. What if Feel Flows met Pet Sounds...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-0mEi3IOs
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Quote from: Empire Of Love on November 02, 2020, 06:25:12 AM
All of this talk of Feel Flows reminds me of this Feel Flows homage from a band called Maple Mars. What if Feel Flows met Pet Sounds...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-0mEi3IOs
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GUYS I HAVE NEWS
A few years back I made a compilation edit of a bunch of my favorite rarities and unreleased tracks (which you can listen to here
https://vimeo.com/134540323
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I originally uploaded to youtube, but due to content ID strikes I made the video private.
However this video has just been hit with strikes again, with two songs that have NEVER been officially released - Big Sur (the 4/4 version) and even more exciting, a track titled: "Medley: All of My Love/Ecology"
That song title comes from the copyrighted material claimed in my video, not from me.
Go to the video and listen to the edit of ecology for reference - for anyone unaware its a medley of different pieces of music Dennis wrote - plenty of edits of the song have been made over the years, ours was close enough to the track getting released for it to be struck with a copyright I guess.
I think this is pretty good news for the box set going forward. f*** YEA
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This was found out a few pages back. Here's the list of songs that have been discovered that way:
Surf’s Up (Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix)
Forever (2019 A Cappella Mix)
Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) (A Capella)
Slip On Through (Alternate 1969 Mix With Session Intro)
Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate Version)
Add Some Music To Your Day (A Capella)
‘Til I Die (Piano Demo)
Our Sweet Love (Track & Backing Vocals Mix)
This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix)
Tears In The Morning (Track & Backing Vocals)
I Just Got My Pay (2019 Mix)
Susie Cincinnati (2019 Mix)
Good Time (2019 Mix)
Take A Load Off Your Feet (Alternate Vocals Mix)
Back Home (Demo)
Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)
Seasons In The Sun
Big Sur
‘Til I Die
H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (2019 Mix)
Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals)
Student Demonstration Time
Sound Of Free (1970 Single Mix, 2019 Master)
My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals)
Long Promised Road (Track & Background Vocal Mix)
Medley: All Of My Love/Ecology
Medley: Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows
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I wonder if that demo of Back Home is the Al version, or a different one entirely....
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Hey guys, what show / year do you think this is from?
https://youtu.be/rimKDkeAeT4
Do you think it sounds 1970-1971ish?
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Quote from: STE on November 04, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Hey guys, what show / year do you think this is from?
https://youtu.be/rimKDkeAeT4
Do you think it sounds 1970-1971ish?
Filmore East 1971. It's a radio broadcast which is why random people can put it on their random albums.
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That explains it, thanks!
I was hoping it could somehow be a track from the boxset.
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