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« on: October 07, 2019, 09:14:58 PM »

Might as well start this now...
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2019, 07:29:37 AM »

This is a list of 2020 for Brian Wilson. The shows appear to be billed as continuing to include Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin.

Some shows are "regular" shows, dubbed "Greatest Hits" shows. Others are "Pet Sounds" shows with the album performed in full (in addition to other songs).

"Greatest Hits" Tour Dates:

January 17, 2020 - Miami, FL - Magic City Casino
January 18-20 - South Walton, FL - 30A Songwriters Festival (Exact Date TBD)
January 22, 2020 - Oxon Hill, MD - The Theater at MGM National Harbor
January 25, 2020 - Englewood, NJ - Bergen Performing Arts Center
February 3-10, 2020 - Cayamo 2020 Cruise

"Pet Sounds" Tour Dates:

January 24, 2020 - Lynn, MA - Lynn Auditorium (Rescheduled from June 7)

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2019, 07:36:13 AM »

I scoured for additional 2020 dates and found a few more. I'm guessing it's going to be mostly or all "regular" shows, as the only PS show on the schedule for 2020 is a rescheduled date from 2019.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2019, 12:49:13 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2019, 03:29:20 PM »

So, in honor of the year, will Brian do a show or shows performing the 20/20 album? 
(Perhaps excluding Never Learn Not to Love, as I doubt either the band or the audience wants those bad vibes).
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 08:45:36 AM »

So, in honor of the year, will Brian do a show or shows performing the 20/20 album? 
(Perhaps excluding Never Learn Not to Love, as I doubt either the band or the audience wants those bad vibes).


That's not a bad idea.  They have done Do it Again, I Can Hear Music, Our Prayer and Cottonfields in the past few years so could add them to the setlist quite easily.  I'd love to hear Bluebirds over the Mountain, Cabinessence, and, I'm going to go out on a wild limb here, Celebrate the News. 



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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 01:13:25 PM »

The DC date appears set for about a capacity of 4,000 (perhaps not utilizing all floor space, or bringing the stage forward) with tickets ranging from $50-$500 for the meet and greet package. Seeing as its a weeknight, a poor choice of venue, and at least a two hour drive in DC traffic mid-week, I'll have to pass on this one!
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« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2019, 07:52:51 AM »

So, in honor of the year, will Brian do a show or shows performing the 20/20 album? 
(Perhaps excluding Never Learn Not to Love, as I doubt either the band or the audience wants those bad vibes).


That's not a bad idea.  They have done Do it Again, I Can Hear Music, Our Prayer and Cottonfields in the past few years so could add them to the setlist quite easily.  I'd love to hear Bluebirds over the Mountain, Cabinessence, and, I'm going to go out on a wild limb here, Celebrate the News. 





I can definitely see Al and Matt doing Break Away together too.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2019, 06:28:32 AM »

I hope he comes to Minneapolis. I think this time I am going to break down and do the Meet and Greet.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2019, 04:45:35 PM »

I hope he comes to Minneapolis. I think this time I am going to break down and do the Meet and Greet.
I'm not sure if he's going to do more meet and greets - the last couple shows I've gone to haven't had the option (Minneapolis Christmas show, Surf's Up Milwaukee show)
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2019, 11:19:09 AM »

So, in honor of the year, will Brian do a show or shows performing the 20/20 album? 
(Perhaps excluding Never Learn Not to Love, as I doubt either the band or the audience wants those bad vibes).


A good song is a good song that is a good song. I always sing along to that one, one of my absolute favorites from the album
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2019, 02:34:21 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2019, 04:46:38 AM »

So, in honor of the year, will Brian do a show or shows performing the 20/20 album? 
(Perhaps excluding Never Learn Not to Love, as I doubt either the band or the audience wants those bad vibes).


A good song is a good song that is a good song. I always sing along to that one, one of my absolute favorites from the album
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2019, 10:54:52 AM »

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https://www.cayamo.com/

This was announced some time ago. I think Al and also Mike&Bruce did them a few years ago so they must be a tidy earner. Hey, it’s the middle of winter and you get the offer to be on a paid vacation? I’m in!

Edit: M&B doing another later in 2020.

https://maltshopcruise.com/lineup/the-beach-boys/
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2019, 01:52:17 PM »

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https://www.cayamo.com/

This was announced some time ago. I think Al and also Mike&Bruce did them a few years ago so they must be a tidy earner. Hey, it’s the middle of winter and you get the offer to be on a paid vacation? I’m in!

Edit: M&B doing another later in 2020.

https://maltshopcruise.com/lineup/the-beach-boys/

Interesting.  Do M&B perform Still Cruisin' on these things?  LOL
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2019, 02:23:44 PM »

Interesting to see that with M&B's Malt Shop Memories Cruise, Dean Torrence and the Surf City Allstars are also playing, as "Jan and Dean's Beach Party Starring Dean Torrence". We know that while Dean plays 5-8 of J&D's most recognizable hits, his setlists are pretty BBs heavy. And at this point, it's not just like he throws in Surfin Safari or Little Deuce Coupe (which J&D recorded in their heyday) , but now his band also plays stuff like God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice, and Sail On Sailor. It seems that whoever goes first would steal the other band's thunder. I'm not sure how many people want TWO BBs shows (although I wouldn't be complaining!!!!! Cool Cool Cool Cool)

Maybe it'll push Dean to dive into the J&D catalog a little more and bring back stuff he's rarely played since Jan passed... Baby Talk, Linda, Jennie Lee ... and maybe even bring some J&D classics to the stage that haven't been played in decades- I can see the Doo Wop stuff like Heart & Soul, Popsicle, Who Put The Bomp, going over well in this "oldies" setting, even though Dean isn't a huge fan of that era. It's hard to imagine Three Window Coupe or I Found A Girl wouldn't bring a few smiles.

Either way, having both acts is a treat for a "California Sound" fan, but an odd choice marketing wise. Marketing one would potentially step on the other's toes, since there's so much thematic and content overlap. But I also have no doubt that The BBs will be presented as a much more major act than Dean. Perhaps Dean will be BB's opening act. Just the J&D songs to set the crowd up and set the scene... And if that doesn't happen, I have a feeling he might join Mike's band for the encore, which he's done for years.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2019, 06:46:02 PM »

I'll never understand why they make Brian tour so much
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2019, 08:59:51 PM »

I'll never understand why they make Brian tour so much
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2019, 11:54:50 AM »

Sad

He's on the road way too much. Really bad management.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2019, 10:31:52 PM »

Sad

He's on the road way too much. Really bad management.
I'd be more interested in hearing some new music from Brian and Al. Still waiting for the rock and roll album.
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2019, 10:41:05 PM »

Back to the cruise deal. They’re all into it.

Kiss Kruise a few days ago.

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2019, 06:01:14 AM »

I'll never understand why they make Brian tour so much
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I see this get thrown around here a lot (mostly from you Lonely Summer), do you have insider information as to how much Brian and the band make from these tours? I looked for a while this morning on the web and couldn't find any annual (or overall) monetary figures associated with Brian's touring.

Again I'll say, his net worth (not money in the bank but still an indicator of him not hurting for money) is 75 million dollars. I don't know how much of that 75 million is associated with his touring. But given the amount of band members (this being a major one), roadies, security, hotel rooms, bus maintenance, gas money, food, etc - I just wonder how much they even pull in at the end of the day to make this a supposedly gargantuan moneymaker for Brian and Melinda.

Anyone with any input on current touring figures (or even previously known figures) I'd be grateful for your input. I just see this get thrown around a lot and I'd like to know if there's any actual bearing to these kinds of comments.

He's on the road way too much. Really bad management.

You ever wondered if Brian tours because he enjoys it more than sitting around at home or being in the studio these days? Or perhaps that being on tour keeping his mind occupied is better than Brian sitting in an armchair at home watching re-runs of Wheel of Fortune all day?

I would absolutely rather Brian be recording in the studio than touring, but I'm also a fan who knows literally nothing about Brian's likes and dislikes/ wants and needs these days. A lot of fans sh*t all over his No Pier Pressure album - why the heck would he want to go back to recording if he'll just get the same reception? Whereas on tour he doesn't hear boos, he doesn't hear kids calling his music "f*cking stupid" - on tour he hears applause even when he's not even in top form. I'm not saying that Brian does this stuff for approval, but he probably also doesn't want to be heckled via the internet by hateful fans after putting months of his time into recording an album.

Again, I know nothing about Brian these days, but I do know that he is 2 and a half years from being 80 years old. It is astounding to me that after the insane amount of street drugs, the weight gains, the acid trips, the overdoses of pharmaceuticals that basically gave Brian a stroke, the psychological torment he went through from Landy, his own schizoaffective diagnosis and manic depression - after all of that he is almost 80 years old, alive and well singing at concerts in front of hundreds of fans every other night. I wouldn't call that bad management at all. I call that a friggin miracle.

Say what we want about what we think Brian should be doing with his life right now. But us fans have no idea what is best for Brian. We have no idea if Brian even wants to tour or not (though I will say the often quoted quote: "Brian never does anything he doesn't want to do"). So thus I don't think it's fair to claim that there is bad management going on when us fans know pretty much nothing about this subject.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2019, 08:00:44 AM »


Fantastic post, Rab!! Everything you stated had to be said especially the part concerning the stupid abuse he received about his last album from misinformed fans about autotune, etc. I wouldn't blame Brian for never releasing anything new after that kind of crappy behavior. And, he got the same treatment from the idiot he made rich who went on to record his POS album loaded with autotune. Brian gets ragged on too much about this that or the other thing far too much for someone who is in his twilight years. DLTBGYD, Brian. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2019, 12:02:03 PM »


Fantastic post, Rab!! Everything you stated had to be said especially the part concerning the stupid abuse he received about his last album from misinformed fans about autotune, etc. I wouldn't blame Brian for never releasing anything new after that kind of crappy behavior. And, he got the same treatment from the idiot he made rich who went on to record his POS album loaded with autotune. Brian gets ragged on too much about this that or the other thing far too much for someone who is in his twilight years. DLTBGYD, Brian. 

Agreed, OSD! And thanks Rab. Brian pretty much does exactly what he wants, as you said. I think he's earned that right by now. Crap about his being forced to tour is some bizarre fantasy that won't die from a few fans who have likely been fed bs. As far as I know, Brian isn't interested in recording anything right now. Of course, that could change tomorrow. He's Brian.

I don't mean to sound rude and unappreciative to Brian's fans, but all indications are that he learned decades ago not to worry about a few critics. He pays no attention and does what he wants as an artist and a person. That's a sound plan, and was even true in the early 80's and I'm pretty sure, before that. While I'm certainly not hanging out with him these days, I trust what I hear from the people who do. I think that attitude became part of his survival. He enjoys appreciative fans, ignores the others, and has for some time.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2019, 05:58:59 PM »

I've said it before on here and was shot down, but I'll add it again as it seems relevant: a touring insider (as we'll call them- no one on Brian's team, but still involved with the event) told me in 2015 at Montgomery College that Brian's tour would barely break even an that at the end of the day, merchandise and VIP packages is where the marginal profit was being turned.

They don't run a cheap production. There are a LOT of people involved and a lot of accommodations made, not just for Brian. Plus, recently I'd say more so 2018 onward, they don't seem to be filling the venues like the first few years out of C50 with the Jeff Beck tour, No Pier Pressure, and the initial 50th Farewell to Pet Sounds. I only see two ways to really turn this around, if they even want to bother with that. Maybe packed houses aren't a concern, but less packed houses will lead to less bookings...anyway: Option #1 The Beach Boys reunite (HA!) Option #2 Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE...again. It's been long enough and I know that I'd be first in line for this show, with this band (and AL!!!). But, this would be incredibly taxing for Brian however, I believe if he were truly driven to do it, then it could still be something special.
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