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Quote from: BeachBoysCovers on May 31, 2019, 02:38:25 PM
Quote from: HeyJude on May 31, 2019, 07:01:44 AM
It's interesting that Mike hasn't sought out a Terry Melcher-type collaborator to continue to write new material that much. Yes, there are a few actual originals (or newly polished-off songs) on the recent albums. But beyond the glut of cover versions and BB re-recordings, most of the "originals" on the albums have been songs written decades ago.
One would have thought that Mike's continual stated desire to "write songs from scratch" alone in a room with Brian would have sprung at least in part by a desire to write new music in general. Yet, we don't see him seeking out alternate avenues to write a ton of material with other writers (at least in terms of what's released). It tends to reinforce the feeling some fans have that Mike's "alone in a room" thing with Brian had more to do with taking issue with *others* writing with Brian and getting writing credits/royalties.
It's interesting to break down the tracks across these recent three Mike albums. There are a total of 49 tracks across these three albums. Of the 49 tracks:
- 33 are cover versions of songs previously released (including BB songs, standards, etc.)
- Within this category approximately 24 are covers of songs Mike has already released as part of the BBs or solo
- 8 are re-recordings of unreleased songs known to have been written and recorded years ago
- 3 are previously released tracks more or less unchanged (Cool Head, Pisces Brothers, Alone on Christmas Day)
- 5 are as-yet-unheard-of originals
This is not an exact science; there is some overlap in these categories. I'm not counting the "It's OK" remake as previously released, even though it was aired a year ago. I'm assuming on those five seemingly "new" compositions; for instance, "All the Love in Paris" is a co-write with his old collaborator Paul Fauerso, so it could actually be older as well. Also, one of those "originals" isn't a Mike co-write.
Which original is not a Mike co-write?
My *partial* bad. I was thinking of "Must Be Christmas", which is on Mike's XMas album and is not co-written by Mike. But I guess that one is technically a "cover" of a track recorded a few years prior by the "Band of Merrymakers" seasonal group fronted by the song's writers.
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Quote from: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 30, 2019, 09:27:57 AM
This is about as awful as it gets. The voice, that wasn't very good to begin with, is shot to hell from 649 concerts a year(talk about overexposure!). No one, absolutely nobody cares what Mike Love is trying to do these days, and are probably surprised he's even still around. He's a friggin' parody of himself in yet this geezer still thinks he's has major importance in the world of entertainment. Sad. Just sad that's all.
I'm sure there are several people who care about Mike Love's current activities, possibly thousands. I don't recall Love proclaiming his "importance in the world of entertainment"; he's simply doing what he's been doing since 1962. You don't have to love Mike's Endless Summer but you certainly hate it with relentless passion.
Mike rubs me the wrong way at times...always has. But I rejoice that he is still standing. Check out his show if they come to your town...you may enjoy it in spite of yourself.
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Quote from: Steven on June 14, 2019, 06:06:08 PM
Quote from: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 30, 2019, 09:27:57 AM
This is about as awful as it gets. The voice, that wasn't very good to begin with, is shot to hell from 649 concerts a year(talk about overexposure!). No one, absolutely nobody cares what Mike Love is trying to do these days, and are probably surprised he's even still around. He's a friggin' parody of himself in yet this geezer still thinks he's has major importance in the world of entertainment. Sad. Just sad that's all.
I'm sure there are several people who care about Mike Love's current activities, possibly thousands. I don't recall Love proclaiming his "importance in the world of entertainment"; he's simply doing what he's been doing since 1962. You don't have to love Mike's Endless Summer but you certainly hate it with relentless passion.
Mike rubs me the wrong way at times...always has. But I rejoice that he is still standing. Check out his show if they come to your town...you may enjoy it in spite of yourself.
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“California Beach,” the second single off the album:
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Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!
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June 27, 2019, 01:46:53 PM »
Someone call a tow truck to try to pull Mike Love out of the 60's. This 2nd single is further proof that he should stick with singing Brian's songs and forget about trying to show the world that he's a competent songwriter as this entry is another embarrassing exercise in mediocrity.
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Well that’s 22 seconds I won’t get back. (All I could manage)
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I actually sort of enjoy the new single. Sure, it's corny as hell, and the *interesting* drum mixing gives me flashbacks to SIP, but I have to admit, it did get stuck in my head. At first listen I was a little underwhelmed, but after a few listens I can say it definitely hits the spot in a way. It's not perfect, but I'd still take an ok Mike Love song over many other artists. Hearing all of Mike's new stuff really makes me curious what Brian, Bruce, and especially Al have in their back catalog, or 'vaults'
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Mike Love is an anal bead. The end.
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Quote from: Tony S on June 27, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!
I don’t want to find fault where there isn’t any but I’m not sure what to make of this:
I’ll tell my boss why don’t you tell your teach...?
Am I reading too much into this or is this about a working aged man and a girl in high school?
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Quote from: NateRuvin on June 27, 2019, 07:31:40 PM
I actually sort of enjoy the new single. Sure, it's corny as hell, and the *interesting* drum mixing gives me flashbacks to SIP, but I have to admit, it did get stuck in my head. At first listen I was a little underwhelmed, but after a few listens I can say it definitely hits the spot in a way. It's not perfect, but I'd still take an ok Mike Love song over many other artists. Hearing all of Mike's new stuff really makes me curious what Brian, Bruce, and especially Al have in their back catalog, or 'vaults'
I have a real soft spot for the original, so can't help but enjoy this version. It has the same catchy chorus, but I miss the guitars and faster tempo of the earlier version.
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So I'll be the first to say it, I don't hate the unreleased "California Beach" as recorded in the late '70s by The Beach Boys. It's that kinda harmless fluff like "It's a Beautiful Day" that I'm sure the group could still knock out in their sleep if they wanted to. But this remake, egh, I don't know. I feel like a lot of the songs Mike are doing these days are being recorded at slower tempos because his voice isn't up to the challenge for the more "rocking", up-tempo things. But regardless, it definitely pulls back on the punch that the original "California Beach" had. I suppose I need more time to fully decide how I feel, but I think it's fair that we put this song in the "Mike Love trying recapture 1963" bucket with "Camp California", "Goin' To The Beach" and a handful of others.
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Quote from: Tony S on June 27, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!
I don’t want to find fault where there isn’t any but I’m not sure what to make of this:
I’ll tell my boss why don’t you tell your teach...?
Am I reading too much into this or is this about a working aged man and a girl in high school?
EoL
That lyric also caught my eye/ear but I guess I forgot about it kinda quickly. But yeah, kinda weird. But not so weird considering this a song originally recorded (and therefore likely composted) not long after "Lazy Lizzie" and "Hey Little Tomboy" from the same group.
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Download/streaming services appear to be using the album artwork for this single (instead of the single artwork from Mike’s video). If anyone sees a version for sale on a download service using the single artwork, let me know. (I have a problem.)
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Quote from: “Big Daddy” on June 28, 2019, 10:04:29 AM
Download/streaming services appear to be using the album artwork for this single (instead of the single artwork from Mike’s video). If anyone sees a version for sale on a download service using the single artwork, let me know. (I have a problem.)
You can always just snag the artwork and then tag your music with it (this particular one I just randomly grabbed would require some cropping of course):
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Quote from: Empire Of Love on June 27, 2019, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: Tony S on June 27, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!
I don’t want to find fault where there isn’t any but I’m not sure what to make of this:
I’ll tell my boss why don’t you tell your teach...?
Am I reading too much into this or is this about a working aged man and a girl in high school?
EoL
Probably. I'm sure a lot of 20-21 year old guys have girlfriends still in high school.
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Quote from: Empire Of Love on June 27, 2019, 09:22:25 PM
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Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!
I don’t want to find fault where there isn’t any but I’m not sure what to make of this:
I’ll tell my boss why don’t you tell your teach...?
Am I reading too much into this or is this about a working aged man and a girl in high school?
EoL
Probably. I'm sure a lot of 20-21 year old guys have girlfriends still in high school.
I don't think it's a big deal. However, this is the same Mike who, in his mid-50s, released an official Beach Boys album where he wrote a line about fornicating in a swimming pool with some babe. And Brian is the guy who wrote 'Hey Little Tomboy' and 'Roller Skating Child' - let's face it: in the context of their ages, these guys have written and released some creepy stuff over the years.
As for this song, I think some are basing the context of this song off of the overall surf genre that we're used to Mike singing about (young adults enjoying courtship on the sunny beaches of the West Coast) and not the song itself. Mike could be singing about a 60 year old man working at McDonalds dating a 50 year old woman attending a community college...we'd never know because the lyrics leave a lot to be desired. So I think it's best to not read too much into this.
I will say that this is the problem with never moving on - constantly being stuck in the same formula: a near-80-year-old man singing from the perspective of young surfers finding love isn't something you hear everyday...it's why 'Beaches In Mind' (a song kickstarted by Brian, I believe) from TWGMTT doesn't seem genuine to me...yet the life suite feels completely real to me.
And whatever, if it gives Mike enjoyment and makes his life more positive, that's what he should do. Brian himself says he wants to record songs from the 60s, and more power to him. But in the post #metoo era, I don't think it should be surprising if people start questioning lyrics about dating potentially underage girls that are sung by elderly men.
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Is there anything particularly morally objectionable about gentlemen in late middle age having sex in swimming polls? Asking for a friend.
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Not that I'm aware of.
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Is there anything particularly morally objectionable about gentlemen in late middle age having sex in swimming polls? Asking for a friend.
If it’s solo....yes!
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Is there anything particularly morally objectionable about gentlemen in late middle age having sex in swimming polls? Asking for a friend.
Not that I'm aware of.
Maybe only if said gentleman proudly boasts about it in a song only a couple years after standing behind the censorship-hungry PMRC, then it's just a bit...weird
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Quote from: Pretty Funky on June 29, 2019, 04:41:40 PM
Quote from: William Bowe on June 29, 2019, 01:06:33 PM
Is there anything particularly morally objectionable about gentlemen in late middle age having sex in swimming polls? Asking for a friend.
If it’s solo....yes!
Funny you mention that. I was at my doctor's office the other day, and she said "you need to stop masturbating". Well, of course this puzzled me, so I asked "Why?" and the doctor replied "because i'm trying to examine you!"
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Oh very well done 👍.
I remembered this straight away.
https://youtu.be/jdOliYDY-LM
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Quote from: Pretty Funky on July 01, 2019, 12:45:08 AM
Oh very well done 👍.
I remembered this straight away.
https://youtu.be/jdOliYDY-LM
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Four producers: Courtesey of new ESQ
Michael Lloyd: It's OK
Sam Hollander: California Beach, Over and Over, On and On and On, Surfin', Surfin' Safari
Scott Totten: Here Comes The Sun, Rockaway Beach, Keepin' The Summer Alive, California Sun, Summertime Blues
Paul Fauerso: The Girl From Ipanema
I'm hoping that since Surfin' Safari and Surfin' are by Hollander and not Lloyd, they might be a bit more listenable than the UTL remakes...
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Quote from: BeachBoysCovers on July 05, 2019, 11:00:49 AM
Four producers: Courtesey of new ESQ
Michael Lloyd: It's OK
Sam Hollander: California Beach, Over and Over, On and On and On, Surfin', Surfin' Safari
Scott Totten: Here Comes The Sun, Rockaway Beach, Keepin' The Summer Alive, California Sun, Summertime Blues
Paul Fauerso: The Girl From Ipanema
I'm hoping that since Surfin' Safari and Surfin' are by Hollander and not Lloyd, they might be a bit more listenable than the UTL remakes...
That’s awesome that Mike and Paul Fauerso are still collaborating, even if it’s not on an original.
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