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« on: July 12, 2018, 04:10:56 PM »

In "Be Here in the Mornin'", the meaning of the lyrics referencing "Korthof, Parks, and Grillo" couldn't have been understood by a single, solitary listener at the time, right? That was clearly a little "in" joke reference to actual people the band was working with, but I cannot imagine that any fans had any idea who these people were, right? And that's if they could even audibly decipher the names.

Did the Friends '68 LP come with lyric sheets originally? How/when would any listeners have learned what was sung here, and then figured out who these people were, pre-internet? Did every fan just wonder "WTF was just sung here?" and not give it another thought? I'm sure this one lyric must have led to some misheard lyrics/incorrect guesses.

I'm also guessing that pre-internet, there also had to be some other obscure in-jokes/references in BBs songs that nobody (who wasn't in the band's inner circle) would have "gotten" or understood. Anyone got any examples?
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2018, 04:53:03 PM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2018, 08:31:29 AM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I still do! who is it referring to?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2018, 08:47:40 AM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I still do! who is it referring to?

a friend named Jon Parks
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2018, 09:15:58 AM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I thought the same thing about Parks. Korthof (Steve) was a relative and Grillo was a manager or Capitol exec? Anyway, when I bought Friends in 68 I don't remember there being any lyrics printed on the sleeve which was plain white. All album notes and info was on the back of the album cover. Parks and Korthof contributed to "When a Man Needs a Woman".
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2018, 09:50:22 AM »

What about cases where the actual members singing the song didn't understand the references? (And I'm not talking about Mike and VDP on "Smile", etc.)

I've always wondered if it's more an apocryphal story, but it's amusing to imagine Al Jardine recording "Somewhere Near Japan" and only *later* when tasked with singing it live did he become aware of the song's drug references and then allegedly refuse to sing it live.

This requires a few questionable suppositions, namely that Al didn't understand some of the song's potential lyrical meaning, and also that he would refuse to sing a song with a not-particularly-blatant drug reference. I mean, "Sloop John B" refers to a "trip" that some people like to reinterpret as a drug reference. "Kokomo" has a "tropical contact high" reference that was scrubbed from the eventual Muppets remake.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2018, 09:55:01 AM »

Almost all of HELP is on the Way works like that.

My Diane, too.

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2018, 09:57:35 AM »

"Chug-a-lug" names some of the Boys themselves and some friends iirc
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2018, 10:13:38 AM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I still do! who is it referring to?

a friend named Jon Parks

One of six (six!) writers of "When A Man Needs A Woman"
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2018, 11:44:18 AM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I still do! who is it referring to?

a friend named Jon Parks

One of six (six!) writers of "When A Man Needs A Woman"

When I thought Parks was Van Dyke, I was wondering why all the lyrics made sense lol
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2018, 04:17:46 PM »

Good one. I myself thought “Parks” was referring to Van Dyke for many years

I still do! who is it referring to?

a friend named Jon Parks

One of six (six!) writers of "When A Man Needs A Woman"

The writing credits on the copyright documentation breaks down thus:

Brian 70%
Dennis 7.5%
Steve Korthof 7.5%
John Parks 7.5%
Alan 7.5%

Interestingly, Carl's name doesn't appear on said documentation.
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