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« Reply #1000 on: August 05, 2020, 09:35:37 AM »

From the Sunday 8/2 show. Notably, this local paper chose not to take a front-facing photo of the audience, which I find odd and suspicious. We get a few shots of band members with masks, one shot of a few audience members with masks, and then a shot from the back of the audience once the venue is full, where it's impossible to tell who's wearing a mask (although you can tell a few at least have their masks pulled down).

https://journalstar.com/entertainment/music/photos-beach-boys-bring-music-back-to-pinewood-bowl-with-socially-distanced-concert/collection_ed73d95b-879e-598a-b081-e6228f4a5f71.html#9



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« Reply #1001 on: August 05, 2020, 09:38:39 AM »

According to this person who was at the show (not wearing a mask in her own photo, FWIW):


Mike Love said on stage they are ready and willing to play anywhere it just depends if the city or state will allow.


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« Reply #1002 on: August 05, 2020, 09:42:01 AM »

Even accounting for "pods" of people attending together, this seems *way* too crammed full of people:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDaKE3FBb2W/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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« Reply #1003 on: August 05, 2020, 09:44:37 AM »

Even without much visibility to mask usage in this photo, I can see numerous people not wearing a mask. That dude that posted about this on Twitter was right; mask usage doesn't appear to have been enforced:

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« Reply #1004 on: August 05, 2020, 04:42:22 PM »

From the Sunday 8/2 show. Notably, this local paper chose not to take a front-facing photo of the audience, which I find odd and suspicious. We get a few shots of band members with masks, one shot of a few audience members with masks, and then a shot from the back of the audience once the venue is full, where it's impossible to tell who's wearing a mask (although you can tell a few at least have their masks pulled down).

I noticed that too, as soon as I saw and posted the link to this same article when it first came out. It felt like they went out of their way to show people wearing masks, yet the social media posts showing pictures of the same concert show a much different story, with the supposed "enforcement" of the mask-wearing not being enforced too well.

That's called selective reporting and selective editing in my book. The question yet again becomes "why?" if the posted reports of the same event vary to that degree. Politics? Who knows.

Back to the old points again: Tally it up, and Mike with his band traveled that far to play a total of two shows for a total of less than 2,500 fans (or even less, who knows). Was it worth it?
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« Reply #1005 on: August 05, 2020, 04:45:04 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I'm all for mitigating danger, but unless Mike Love kidnapped those people and forced them to be there, the band endangered no one. Those people chose to buy tickets and attend the show on their own, free will.
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« Reply #1006 on: August 05, 2020, 05:09:03 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I'm all for mitigating danger, but unless Mike Love kidnapped those people and forced them to be there, the band endangered no one. Those people chose to buy tickets and attend the show on their own, free will.
Yes, but the people that are having to shop in grocery stores with them or serving food to them days after the concert, when the concert attendees are potentially spreading the disease, aren't as lucky. Many of the people that the attendees will interact with and infect are working out of necessity and don't have the option of staying at home.
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« Reply #1007 on: August 05, 2020, 05:30:18 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I'm all for mitigating danger, but unless Mike Love kidnapped those people and forced them to be there, the band endangered no one. Those people chose to buy tickets and attend the show on their own, free will.
Yes, but the people that are having to shop in grocery stores with them or serving food to them days after the concert, when the concert attendees are potentially spreading the disease, aren't as lucky. Many of the people that the attendees will interact with and infect are working out of necessity and don't have the option of staying at home.

I agreed, and I'm not saying that you are, but attempts to vilify the band for the attendees' decision to go to the concert are nothing short of reaching for a reason to hate Mike Love.
Getting sick could happen while at a restaurant just as easy as at a concert.
As someone who works at a grocery store, I am someone who has to work out of necessity. And, honestly, I don't blame people for wanting to go out and enjoy themselves after being couped up for so long.
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« Reply #1008 on: August 05, 2020, 05:48:53 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I'm all for mitigating danger, but unless Mike Love kidnapped those people and forced them to be there, the band endangered no one. Those people chose to buy tickets and attend the show on their own, free will.
Yes, but the people that are having to shop in grocery stores with them or serving food to them days after the concert, when the concert attendees are potentially spreading the disease, aren't as lucky. Many of the people that the attendees will interact with and infect are working out of necessity and don't have the option of staying at home.

I agreed, and I'm not saying that you are, but attempts to vilify the band for the attendees' decision to go to the concert are nothing short of reaching for a reason to hate Mike Love.
Getting sick could happen while at a restaurant just as easy as at a concert.
As someone who works at a grocery store, I am someone who has to work out of necessity. And, honestly, I don't blame people for wanting to go out and enjoy themselves after being couped up for so long.

Replying to the section in bold: So questioning and disagreeing with Mike's decision to play these two shows after all the other scheduled acts of any note backed out is reaching for a reason to hate Mike Love? How does that add up? And the overwhelming majority of other venues and events who had booked Mike to play have canceled or postponed too, including now the Ohio Balloon Fest which up to last week was moving forward as scheduled until determining the health risk was too great to hold the event. We're told Mike is in full control of his own decisions and his career, we're told he's a shrewd businessman and runs his touring operation "lean and mean", and we were also told that Mike's reason behind not wanting to do more with C50 was because the tour was losing money.

Yet we have in the past week Mike playing two shows for a combined total of less than 2,500 people under circumstances that could be a health risk for all involved, and having to travel and pay for that travel at quite a distance...at shows where obviously making a profit wasn't possible under normal ticket prices and the eventual crowd size. Money was lost across the board, let's face it, by both venue and performer, so why if Mike was worried about tours being profitable in the past are these two random gigs an exception?

I question both Mike and these venues for the decisions to go on with the shows in light of the health crisis, but in terms of the band agreeing to perform we're told it is always Mike's call as the final word. So is that finding a reason to hate Mike Love, or is it fans questioning or disagreeing with the guy who makes the decision about his decision to proceed with events like this?
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« Reply #1009 on: August 05, 2020, 07:34:05 PM »

Mike Love said on stage they are ready and willing to play anywhere it just depends if the city or state will allow.

That is really not a great look right now. Sad

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« Reply #1010 on: August 07, 2020, 01:29:10 PM »

More venue-announced cancellations:

Sept. 22 -- Virginia Beach, VA -- Sandler Center for the Performing Arts
Show cancelled
Source: https://www.sandlercenter.org/

Sept. 28 -- Greenville, SC -- Peace Center, Peace Concert Hall
Show postponed, to be rescheduled
Source: https://www.peacecenter.org/
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« Reply #1011 on: August 07, 2020, 08:31:30 PM »

All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.

I'm all for mitigating danger, but unless Mike Love kidnapped those people and forced them to be there, the band endangered no one. Those people chose to buy tickets and attend the show on their own, free will.

Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash.
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« Reply #1012 on: August 10, 2020, 04:08:22 PM »

In this video from 8/2, the camera pans back out to the audience.

https://youtu.be/1B4xANQYLUc

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« Reply #1013 on: August 10, 2020, 07:43:14 PM »

In this video from 8/2, the camera pans back out to the audience.

https://youtu.be/1B4xANQYLUc



That is beyond crazy. I can't compute.

On the plus side, the band sounds tight. They hadn't played together in nearly six months. Although, Bruce sounds weaker than ever on the bridge.
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« Reply #1014 on: August 14, 2020, 12:59:23 PM »

According to one user’s post in the Sail On FB group, the M&B Wallingford, CT show has been rescheduled to April 17, 2021.
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« Reply #1015 on: August 14, 2020, 01:01:59 PM »

According to one user’s post in the Sail On FB group, the M&B Wallingford, CT show has been rescheduled to April 17, 2021.

Almost all shows have been rescheduled for next year, which makes doing these few shows now even more bizarre. I wouldn't be surprised if those two or three shows they did a week or two ago barely broke even if not lost money.
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« Reply #1016 on: August 14, 2020, 02:32:24 PM »

I've got confirmation from the venue on the postponement of the Wallingford, CT Oakdale date.
Source: https://www.oakdale.com/
If you go to the tickets link for M&B's show, it has the new date.

Another date postponed to 2021:
Sept. 27 -- Charleston, WV -- Clay Center for the Arts & Sciences
Rescheduled to April 20, 2021.
Source: https://www.theclaycenter.org/performances/
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« Reply #1017 on: August 17, 2020, 01:59:10 PM »

Another date moved to next year. Mike & Bruce have only one September date left.

Sept. 23 -- Rocky Mount, VA -- Harvester Performance Center
Rescheduled to April 21, 2021
Source: https://www.harvester-music.com/
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« Reply #1018 on: August 18, 2020, 02:52:39 PM »

New dates confirmed by BRI:

2020
Nov. 16 -- San Antonio, TX -- Tobin Center for the Performing Arts

2021
June 18 -- Hamar, Norway -- Tjuvholmen Kro Hamar
June 19 -- Vilborg, Denmark -- Tinghallen
June 25 -- Neu-Ulm, Germany -- Wiley Sportpark
June 30 -- Gelsenkirchen, Germany -- Amphitheater Gelsenkirchen
July 1 -- Mainz, Germany -- Zitadelle Mainz
July 23 -- Urbana, IL -- Champaign County Fair
July 25 -- Fort Wayne, IN -- Foelinger Theatre
Aug. 15 -- Davenport, IA -- Rhythm City Casino Resort
Aug. 17 -- Des Moines, IA -- Iowa State Fair, Grandstand
Aug. 21 -- Mankato, MN -- Vetter Stone Amphitheater
Sept. 3 -- Eugene, OR -- Cuthbert Amphitheater
Sept. 5 -- Ridgefield, WA -- Ilani Casino & Resort, Cowlitz Ballroom
Sept. 6 -- Puyallup, WA -- Washington State Fair
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« Reply #1019 on: August 18, 2020, 03:36:39 PM »

Nice to see BRI confirming one date in November.

Meanwhile there's another issue raging where fans have been asking...and getting dead silence in return from BRI.

Gotta love it. One show in Texas. Yee-ha.
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« Reply #1020 on: August 18, 2020, 03:43:38 PM »

I genuinely hope things turn around as quickly as possible so shows and everything else can happen.

But a November date is a huge maybe. Things could be worse in November. There's obviously no firm indication of where COVID will go, but one of many theories is that Fall/Winter weather/temperatures aren't going to help with flattening the curve, especially if they keep doing shows (and college kids having keggers, and so on).

The idea of doing an *indoor* show in Texas in November, especially if COVID is still a big deal, just seems nuts, regardless of staggered seating or "pods", etc.

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« Reply #1021 on: August 18, 2020, 03:52:10 PM »

I guess we see where BRI's priorities are, and we know they're still around - I'm sure fans are asking a lot more about a live show in San Antonio in November over other current issues, right?  Roll Eyes Huh
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« Reply #1022 on: August 18, 2020, 05:17:24 PM »

Guitarfool2002, those were just the new dates. There are a lot more confirmed ones. Here are the ones that are left for 2020.

Aug. 21 — Cedar Rapids, IA (McGrath Amphitheatre)
Nov. 5-6 — Ivins, UT (Tuacahn Center for the Arts)
Nov. 16 — San Antonio, TX (Tobin Center for the Performing Arts)
Nov. 21 — Thackerville, OK (WinStar World Casino and Resort)
Nov. 22 — Tulsa, OK (River Spirit Casino Resort, Paradise Cove)
Dec. 1 — Washington, DC (The Anthem)

I expect this date to be rescheduled to 2021, but as of now tickets are still being sold:
Sept. 30 — Pensacola, FL (Saenger Theatre)

BRI has confirmed the majority of rescheduled dates for next year, as well. We're trying to give the fans accurate info on everybody's tour dates at BBFC.

But I get what you're referring to, and I'm as much in the dark as everyone else on that topic.
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« Reply #1023 on: August 18, 2020, 05:23:23 PM »

Where is the gig in OSD's yard? Evil
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« Reply #1024 on: August 18, 2020, 07:01:07 PM »

Guitarfool2002, those were just the new dates. There are a lot more confirmed ones. Here are the ones that are left for 2020.

Aug. 21 — Cedar Rapids, IA (McGrath Amphitheatre)
Nov. 5-6 — Ivins, UT (Tuacahn Center for the Arts)
Nov. 16 — San Antonio, TX (Tobin Center for the Performing Arts)
Nov. 21 — Thackerville, OK (WinStar World Casino and Resort)
Nov. 22 — Tulsa, OK (River Spirit Casino Resort, Paradise Cove)
Dec. 1 — Washington, DC (The Anthem)

I expect this date to be rescheduled to 2021, but as of now tickets are still being sold:
Sept. 30 — Pensacola, FL (Saenger Theatre)

BRI has confirmed the majority of rescheduled dates for next year, as well. We're trying to give the fans accurate info on everybody's tour dates at BBFC.

But I get what you're referring to, and I'm as much in the dark as everyone else on that topic.

Yes, I was just taking a few jabs at the corporation lol. It is odd though that BRI has been silent, at a time when fans are asking them to spend their money on a BRI product, and the notion of holding large-gathering shows in the next months is still a priority at BRI. And I can't understand based on the attendance at those two recent shows how it could be seen as a good money-making opportunity when I believe more people signed the box set petition than had attended that first fairgrounds show a few weeks ago.
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