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All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
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Mike Love's fake Beach Boys act is not worth dying for. And he's a complete asshole for doing a show. I hope he and the band get quarantined for 2 or more weeks.
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Bingo. I will usually be the first to defend Mike Love's touring act, but anyone that is performing during this pandemic that doesn't have to be doing it to survive, pay rent on a modest home, or feed their families has lost respect from me for quite a while.
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Those photos remind me of the amusement park gig where Spinal Tap played "Jazz Odyssey".
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Quote from: Jay on July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?
I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.
(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).
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Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
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Quote from: Jay on July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
Yeah, I'm disgusted that Mike and Bruce grabbed random people from the street at gunpoint and forced them into the concert. Absolutely despicable.
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Quote from: Jay on July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
I agree completely.
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Quote from: Sam_BFC on July 31, 2020, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: Jay on July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?
I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.
(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).
The fact that it's outdoors helps quite a bit, but unless there was a mask ordinance in effect then it easily could've endangered attendees, everyone they encounter after the concert, etc.
The protests actually are proof of how much masks work. There hasn't been a spike in cases in cities where protests were occurring, but the spikes are all only in states that reopened early.
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on July 31, 2020, 09:23:22 PM
Those photos remind me of the amusement park gig where Spinal Tap played "Jazz Odyssey".
If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, put Beach Boys first and Puppet Show LAST.
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Quote from: thetojo on August 01, 2020, 12:09:21 AM
Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
It is always plugged in, just not turned on, like Brian on his solo tours.
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Quote from: Pretty Funky on July 31, 2020, 03:24:55 PM
A clip here.
https://youtu.be/P98vS884AQc
The few seconds either end showing the audience paint a pretty sad picture. I’ve seen more people at a sound check.
I can't imagine there's much money to be made on venues that are half-full...or less. I don't fault Mike for wanting to get out and play - i'm an entertainer, too, and i miss it more than anything - but it's not time now.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on August 01, 2020, 02:06:23 PM
Quote from: thetojo on August 01, 2020, 12:09:21 AM
Was Bruce's keyboard plugged in?
It's hard to tell from the photo.
It is always plugged in, just not turned on, like Brian on his solo tours.
If it’s never turned on, then why is he always fiddling with the volume button?
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Bruce's keyboard is on. It may be quiet in the mix most of the time, or not be in the audiences mix, but Bruce will have his own monitor where he may hear it.
Even then, it's audible on Disney Girls and I'm sure people in the past have said it's audible on other songs, but I cba to trawl the forums for them.
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Quote from: Sam_BFC on July 31, 2020, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: Jay on July 31, 2020, 06:10:53 PM
All I have to say about this is...how fucking dare you endanger the safety of your fans in a situation like this. A man has the right to learn a living, but there are better and safer ways to do it.
Surely those fans have to take some responsibility for their own safety if they are taking the decision to attend?
I find the whole thing bizarre overall and wouldn't have risked attending, but as far as I know it is not clear yet how much outdoor events like this contribute to the spread of the virus. Someone may correct me if they know better, but I don't think there has been evidence that, say, the recent anti-racism protests contributed significantly to the spread of the virus, and those were attended by thousands.
(To be clear I am in no way suggesting that it is "okay" to attend a concert on the basis that people got together to protest against an appalling murder).
According to a
study
done by the National Bureau of Economic Research the BLM gatherings across the country did
not
lead to a spike in any city (this research was shared by The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Vox). Trump has claimed that the protests have led to spikes in certain cities but as far as I know he hasn't cited a source for that claim. The NBER study did say that according to cell-phone data the protests actually kept many people home which probably explains why the numbers seemed to balance out. However, a
study
done of 7,000 cases in China showed that only
one
of those cases was spread outdoors, and that was due to two friends having a long conversation in close proximity. According to a
Japanese study
you are 20x more likely to contract the virus indoors than outdoors - part of the reason for this is due to outdoor wind dispersal and that the constantly moving air prohibits the virus from building up and becoming more easily spreadable (as it does indoors). Couple that with a highly regulated concert (social distancing, required mask wearing) and that is probably why health officials gave their approval for Mike Love to go ahead with the Nebraska concert. Of course some people will not wear a mask (whether due to their "freedoms" or because they are eating or drinking), however, the rate of transmission at an outdoor venue, regardless of whether or not you are wearing a mask, is far,
far
lower than if you were in an indoor environment.
I'm not saying if it's right or wrong, but I also want to stress the importance of following the science/statistics/research instead of basing our denouncement of Mike Love and other bands on our own emotions/fears.
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Thanks for providing that detail Rab and agreed.
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Quote from: BeachBoysCovers on August 02, 2020, 05:25:29 AM
Bruce's keyboard is on. It may be quiet in the mix most of the time, or not be in the audiences mix, but Bruce will have his own monitor where he may hear it.
Even then, it's audible on Disney Girls and I'm sure people in the past have said it's audible on other songs, but I cba to trawl the forums for them.
Supposedly he’s also audible on Darlin, GV, and BTTYS since John Cowsill moved from keys to drums in late 2007.
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Mike played the Pinewood Bowl in Lincoln Nebraska last night. Here are a few articles (with photos) about the gig:
(scroll down this page for more photos)
https://journalstar.com/entertainment/music/good-vibrations-from-a-distance-concertgoers-play-it-safe-at-beach-boys-pinewood-bowl-show/article_b907277c-3763-513b-8061-00cb0f808648.html
Local news report:
https://www.1011now.com/2020/08/03/pinewood-bowl-hosts-the-beach-boys/
And here is a MassLive news report about the band still planning to play the only show not cancelled out of a six-show New England run in September:
https://www.masslive.com/music/2020/08/beach-boys-holding-on-to-connecticut-concert-date.html
Here is video of the Aug. 2 Pinewood concert, with a few more clips upped at that YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNztu8jOuIw
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Looks like the mask-wearing requirement wasn't being enforced across the board, at least according to this one Twitter user:
https://twitter.com/StineJosh/status/1290251555585703936
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The fake Beach Boys need to be boycotted. They're sending a crappy message that they don't care about the health or well being of their audience. The being problem is that Mike Love cannot stand being at home for more than 2 days in a row and is hooked on whatever adulation he can get from applause or being the "man in charge".
What a pathetic "waste of human flesh" he is. He needs absolutely no more money (has too much anyway), and why anyone would be the least bit interested in seeing this clown is beyond logic. Seeing that he doesn't give a sh*t about the fans, his band and himself, no tears will be shed by me if he contracts the virus. Yeah, rock on, Mike, you dope.
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on August 03, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
Looks like the mask-wearing requirement wasn't being enforced across the board, at least according to this one Twitter user:
https://twitter.com/StineJosh/status/1290251555585703936
Mind blowing. These people are living in an alternate reality. I wonder if they know that almost every concert venue and tour in the world is currently shut down.
This newer gig looks far worse in every respect than that Ozark gig a few days earlier. More people, less space, less mask-wearing.
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Interestingly, in this video from last night, Cowsill appears to be the only band member on stage wearing a mask while drumming/singing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNztu8jOuIw
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Looking at the pictures from that Nebraska gig, it really does look like a bad idea placing all those older people so close together. And I am still adamant that science needs to be the deciding factor in what events are safe, but man I wouldn’t be caught anywhere near that concert.
I don’t get why Mike didn’t start with online concerts. Heck perhaps Brian and his band should do this: charge $40 per “ticket” and limit it to like the first 500 who sign up/pay. That’s $20,000 for one online concert. Do that once a week? Have a chat room where people can request songs. Have a soundcheck, etc.
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on August 03, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
Looks like the mask-wearing requirement wasn't being enforced across the board, at least according to this one Twitter user:
https://twitter.com/StineJosh/status/1290251555585703936
Sadly, this was a completely predictable outcome.
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Mike's logic in all this might be "this is great, we're the only band out there playing now, so we'll get tons of publicity!" We know from past experiences (R&R HOF comes to mind) that ML truly believes there is no such thing as bad publicity.
I wish i was in his shoes, with the ability to pick and choose when i work. My employer has called me back to work, starting tomorrow, and if you think i'm nervous....you're right.
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