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« Reply #275 on: July 05, 2018, 09:53:23 AM »


Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  

This is an ongoing issue and has been for a couple decades for Mike, because he tours as "The Beach Boys" mostly with "non-Beach Boys", and the sidemen sing a ton of the lead vocals.

It isn't super-duper common for a *group* to hand off a ton of leads to "non-official members." They usually bring those other newer members in as "official" members (e.g. Chicago, Journey, Boston, etc.).

Yes, on occasion groups (or even "solo" artists) hand off lead parts to backing band members. Foskett was singing "Little GTO" with the Beach Boys back in the 80s. Even McCartney had his backing guys singing a few lines on "I've Got a Feeling."

But Mike and Bruce are regularly presented as "The Beach Boys" in its official capacity as a touring band, and thus the (correct) assumption even on the part of directors/editors on TV shows is that everybody else is in the backing band, thus you get stuff like the camera staying honed in on Mike (or Bruce, or even Stamos) instead of the other guys.
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« Reply #276 on: July 05, 2018, 09:58:35 AM »

I was pleasantly surprised.  The vocal sound was pretty strong...the best of all of the 'acts' I thought.  I wondered what they did to enhance Mike's power and tone...  It worked.

Quibbles?  Why wouldn't they put the camera on Jeff when he was singing key parts of Kokomo?  Looked stupid...amateurish.  Obviously a poor production idea.  Why send John Cowsill packing in order to put 'who's-his-arse' on the drums?  Just let him play the guitar...or some bongos.  Jimmy isn't good at singing harmonies.  As I have said for years...'speechifying' ain't Mike's strong suit.  It never has been.  Stumbling through his wee accepting of the award 'blurt' was pretty iffy...and he forgot to include Blondie and Ricky.

All in all though?  W A Y  better than last year's debacle.  Hey!!!  I gotta tell the truth. Wink

It seemed a little harried on stage for the award presentation. I wonder if they were behind? We're the fireworks supposed to start during the set?
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« Reply #277 on: July 05, 2018, 10:38:27 AM »

Just watched...seemed like Mike was desperately trying to read a prompter that was too far away.

I'm pretty sure they sang with a recording of themselves. The harmonies were thick in a duplication kinda way. As previously mentioned, there were also some moments were it was easily noticeable that there were "two Mike Loves" singing at the same time.

WAY better than last year...but truly, jut the same old shlock.
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« Reply #278 on: July 05, 2018, 01:18:08 PM »

From the articles I've read, the fireworks are independent of the concert, so the National Park Service can set them off whenever they wish.
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« Reply #279 on: July 05, 2018, 07:04:54 PM »

I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.

Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  Grin

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.


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« Reply #280 on: July 06, 2018, 06:19:34 AM »

2guitarfool2002: Well said. Agree with each point. It didn't seem characteristic of chatty Mike to stumble indeed.
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« Reply #281 on: July 06, 2018, 06:35:09 AM »

I don't think there's any need to pile on given that any time Stamos and Mike are involved, and it's a TV show conforming to all the trappings of such, it's *always* pretty painful and not the best presentation for anyone.

That being said, we've set the bar pretty low if it's now a case of "well, not as bad as last year!"

I guess I appreciate Mike mentioning the other band members when accepting the punch bowl, err, award, but really that would, under any circumstance concerning an "award" for the band, be the most basic courtesy he *should* be offering.

As for the "live" performances, they did indeed appear less obviously canned compared to last year. I still think some futzing is going on, but at least some of the vocals and possibly some of the instrumentation appeared to be partially live.  Mike's band, while kind of a bit diluted (I'm pretty sure all three of Bonhomme, the sax player, and the new bass player are all the same guy), puts on a professional show. But these types of shows are never even a good presentation for his band.
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« Reply #282 on: July 06, 2018, 07:51:15 AM »

There was certainly nothing on the show this year that was epic enough to inspire this Vic Berger video from last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdYbymafUd0
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« Reply #283 on: July 06, 2018, 03:13:47 PM »

July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993
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« Reply #284 on: July 06, 2018, 03:57:07 PM »

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?
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« Reply #285 on: July 06, 2018, 04:09:11 PM »

July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.
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« Reply #286 on: July 06, 2018, 04:35:34 PM »

July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

More likely a slew of dancing Mrs. Clauses...surely Mike will be the big man in red...
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« Reply #287 on: July 06, 2018, 04:39:46 PM »

Unleash the santa daddy... Shocked
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« Reply #288 on: July 06, 2018, 05:37:23 PM »

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« Reply #289 on: July 07, 2018, 02:03:46 AM »

I was actually surprised to see Mike kind of stumble over his acceptance speech when Stamos gave him that award. I like that Mike accepted it for and named his original bandmates, but I didn't expect him to A. need to read from a teleprompter (if that's what he was doing) for such a short thank-you type of speech since his everyday gig is an emcee/frontman, and B. have trouble delivering the speech. It happens to everyone but Mike seemed off.

I can't put my finger on what it was, but I thought listening live last night that the performance was enhanced, I also think I did hear multiple Mike vocals hitting the live mix simultaneously and perhaps one was corrected, and the instrumental mix sounded really, really full (and I don't mean the orchestra, I mean the core band). Compare that sound to some of the recent June 2018 concert clips on YouTube.

I thought it felt like the set was clipped a little too tight, as in it felt rushed especially cutting right to Fun Fun Fun in the middle of Kokomo, and it didn't feel like the group was given enough time in the set. These things always run long, but still...we got basically one full song from the band. Or 2 if you count Fun Fun Fun which is short anyway.



Jimmy Buffett...I don't think he added much if anything. Him being barefoot was a little odd, at least Bruce could have lent Jimmy a pair of his Docksiders to put on his feet.  Grin

Anyway - The songs are the legacy. People love them and always will. It's music that heals and makes people happy. A special tip of the hat as well to John Stamos for all the work he does for veterans groups and his other charities - A class act in that regard, and I mean that sincerely. Kudos to John Stamos.

NOTE: JB does all his concerts barefoot.



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« Reply #290 on: July 07, 2018, 05:29:08 AM »


Mike needs to wear this on the christmas tour! LOL
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« Reply #291 on: July 07, 2018, 10:07:59 AM »

July 15th show has been cancelled "due to logistical issues."

https://www.wane.com/news/local-news/beach-boys-cancel-fort-wayne-show/1286789993

That inspired me to check up on their schedule...which led me to this interesting discovery:

November 16th in Chattanooga, the 'boys' will launch their "Reason for the Season Christmas Tour"...I know Mike and Bruce have done Christmas shows before...but have they ever advertised a specifically themed Christmas tour...coincidentally at the same exact time Brian & Al are doing their own?

Maybe they had to cancel to hold emergency auditions to find a dancing Santa Claus to add to Mike's Christmas shows.

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« Reply #292 on: July 07, 2018, 12:35:47 PM »


Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  LOL LOL
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« Reply #293 on: July 07, 2018, 12:57:05 PM »

That was a pretty strange photo with ďfamilyĒ members! LOL
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« Reply #294 on: July 07, 2018, 05:54:05 PM »


Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  LOL LOL

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do LOL
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« Reply #295 on: July 07, 2018, 07:05:47 PM »


Old water under the bridge, Billy.  Wink


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« Reply #296 on: July 08, 2018, 10:10:39 AM »

OSD is the man!
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Ahh, memories of being banned for a stretch only this time it's a sweatshirt.  LOL LOL

Hey We gotta laugh about it now... all we can do LOL

Yep  LOL
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« Reply #298 on: July 10, 2018, 02:10:18 PM »

It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!
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« Reply #299 on: July 10, 2018, 09:29:31 PM »

It's interesting to me that in many (not all, but a handful) of TV performances since C50, Bruce has gone without a keyboard, as another frontman. Does he do this on TV at events such as the Capitol Fourth 2018, Memorial Day 2016, The View 2016, etc to draw attention that he is another "real" Beach Boy? That would be my guess. To distinguish him from the band.

I know singing BBs harmony is no easy task, but Bruce always looks like he doesn't have much to do!

I've noticed that Bruce's keyboard is MIA when they are lip-synching to one degree or another. I've also noticed that when he plays live, he is often playing vocal cues on very soft electric piano sounds, or simply playing nothing at all (this is usually the case...) So, I'm sure they see no need for the additional expense. Also, I wouldn't consider him an additional frontman. Frankly, he's a backup singer at that point.
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