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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2018, 11:27:24 AM »

I think that part of Strange World is either an electric piano (like rhodes or wurlie) with the highs taken out. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a synth, considering we known Joe Thomas has no problem with synths!
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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2018, 06:37:27 PM »

I think that part of Strange World is either an electric piano (like rhodes or wurlie) with the highs taken out. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a synth, considering we known Joe Thomas has no problem with synths!

I actually think that's an electric guitar, with some playing around of the volume control, or possibly using a pedal or whammy bar, similar to what we hear at the very end of the track. Although not credited (a problem which comes up a few times on this album, involving different instruments that are heard, but not listed), it's apparently Dave's playing: “I recorded guitar parts for six tracks at Gary Griffin’s studio, and I remember Gary telling me my parts were strange and that was fitting for a song called ‘Strange World’.”
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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2018, 09:04:04 PM »

Someone mentioned Loop De Loop as the last song with a tuba. But doesn't When Girls Get Together have one? Though it's possible it was actually recorded before LDL?
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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2018, 10:21:07 PM »

Actually a Harpsichord was used on Good Timin' I believe, Dano Bass was used during the Good Vibrations sessions as well as The Smile Sessions, A Celeste not a Glockenspiel used on Girl Don't Tell Me which was used later on as well for other songs. It's quite interesting how much the Celeste has appeared with the Beach Boys. It started way back in 1963 for the Surfin' USA sessions, then Brian used it again for Little Saint Nick. He wasn't done with it, he used it again on Girl Don't Tell Me. After that it was used during the Smile Sessions. I think it disappeared after that. The longest used obscure instrument, the Harpsichord. Used in 1964, 1966, 1967, 1978 and even 2012. Craig can correct me, he's awesome when it comes to this stuff.

Does the sampled harpsichord from 2004 not count?
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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2018, 04:51:48 AM »

Actually a Harpsichord was used on Good Timin' I believe, Dano Bass was used during the Good Vibrations sessions as well as The Smile Sessions, A Celeste not a Glockenspiel used on Girl Don't Tell Me which was used later on as well for other songs. It's quite interesting how much the Celeste has appeared with the Beach Boys. It started way back in 1963 for the Surfin' USA sessions, then Brian used it again for Little Saint Nick. He wasn't done with it, he used it again on Girl Don't Tell Me. After that it was used during the Smile Sessions. I think it disappeared after that. The longest used obscure instrument, the Harpsichord. Used in 1964, 1966, 1967, 1978 and even 2012. Craig can correct me, he's awesome when it comes to this stuff.

Does the sampled harpsichord from 2004 not count?

No...because it's not on a "Beach Boys" track (but rather a "Brian Wilson" track...or tracks).  Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2018, 04:55:02 AM »

Someone mentioned Loop De Loop as the last song with a tuba. But doesn't When Girls Get Together have one? Though it's possible it was actually recorded before LDL?

"Loop De Loop" came first...but I don't think there's a tuba on "When Girls Get Together"...track sheet notations for that one indicate oboe, bari sax, and bass trombone.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2018, 05:07:50 AM »

Someone mentioned Loop De Loop as the last song with a tuba. But doesn't When Girls Get Together have one? Though it's possible it was actually recorded before LDL?

"Loop De Loop" came first...but I don't think there's a tuba on "When Girls Get Together"...track sheet notations for that one indicate oboe, bari sax, and bass trombone.
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Oh ok. The bass trombone must be what I'm hearing.
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2018, 05:15:04 AM »


Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?


I'm pretty sure there's a bass harmonica on Friends

Hold up! There's also bass harmonica on Walkin'!
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2018, 07:07:07 AM »


Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?


I'm pretty sure there's a bass harmonica on Friends

Hold up! There's also bass harmonica on Walkin'!

Passing By too, damn he was really going for it in '68
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2018, 07:17:55 AM »

I haven't listened to it in some time, but I recall that the original 1978 version of "Santa Ana Winds" sounds like it has bass harmonica on it. There's also regular harmonica on it  (which was retained for the 1980 KTSA version), but I recall hearing what sounds like bass harmonica underscoring the verses of that '78 version. It could be something else that *sounds* like bass harmonica I suppose.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2018, 11:02:53 AM »

Random question, sorta off topic, but not exactly...

Is "I Do Love You" the last (and perhaps only?) time that a BBs track had a single musician (not a member of the band) playing so many different instruments on one song? That person being Stevie Wonder, of course. "I Do Love You" is definitely an odd duck, and I think it may hold this record.

The only other tracks that come to mind are stuff like Love You tracks, but of course that one single musician was a BB member, Brian, playing nearly all instruments.

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« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2018, 11:27:05 AM »

Trash Can drums- Surfin
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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2018, 12:15:31 PM »

Orange Juice Cartons (?)  -- God Only Knows, played by Hal Blaine?
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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2018, 01:07:01 PM »

Random question, sorta off topic, but not exactly...

Is "I Do Love You" the last (and perhaps only?) time that a BBs track had a single musician (not a member of the band) playing so many different instruments on one song? That person being Stevie Wonder, of course. "I Do Love You" is definitely an odd duck, and I think it may hold this record.

The only other tracks that come to mind are stuff like Love You tracks, but of course that one single musician was a BB member, Brian, playing nearly all instruments.



It's not the same as Wonder's near one-man-band, and it's a BW track, but "Let It Shine" is pretty much all Brian and Jeff Lynne, with one of the session drummers. But it's Lynne on acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, 6-string bass/baritone guitar, and possibly some keyboards. Then Brian on keys/piano presumably, and one of the session drummers.

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2018, 02:00:03 PM »

Random question, sorta off topic, but not exactly...

Is "I Do Love You" the last (and perhaps only?) time that a BBs track had a single musician (not a member of the band) playing so many different instruments on one song? That person being Stevie Wonder, of course. "I Do Love You" is definitely an odd duck, and I think it may hold this record.

The only other tracks that come to mind are stuff like Love You tracks, but of course that one single musician was a BB member, Brian, playing nearly all instruments.



It's not the same as Wonder's near one-man-band, and it's a BW track, but "Let It Shine" is pretty much all Brian and Jeff Lynne, with one of the session drummers. But it's Lynne on acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, 6-string bass/baritone guitar, and possibly some keyboards. Then Brian on keys/piano presumably, and one of the session drummers.



That's interesting. I guess "Let It Shine" might be in a similar category for a BW solo track, but perhaps "I Do Love You" is pretty unique in this respect within the cannon of "BBs" songs?
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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2018, 03:53:17 PM »

Orange Juice Cartons (?)  -- God Only Knows, played by Hal Blaine?

Plastic orange juice cups, actually - and played (with sticks) by Jim Gordon.
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2018, 03:55:26 PM »

Random question, sorta off topic, but not exactly...

Is "I Do Love You" the last (and perhaps only?) time that a BBs track had a single musician (not a member of the band) playing so many different instruments on one song? That person being Stevie Wonder, of course. "I Do Love You" is definitely an odd duck, and I think it may hold this record.

The only other tracks that come to mind are stuff like Love You tracks, but of course that one single musician was a BB member, Brian, playing nearly all instruments.




It's not the same as Wonder's near one-man-band, and it's a BW track, but "Let It Shine" is pretty much all Brian and Jeff Lynne, with one of the session drummers. But it's Lynne on acoustic guitar, electric guitar, bass, 6-string bass/baritone guitar, and possibly some keyboards. Then Brian on keys/piano presumably, and one of the session drummers.



Didn't Roy Hay from Culture Club play most of the instruments on "Passing Friend"? And isn't the Boys' version of "Crocodile Rock" mostly played by one guy?
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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2018, 04:32:24 PM »

I haven't listened to it in some time, but I recall that the original 1978 version of "Santa Ana Winds" sounds like it has bass harmonica on it. There's also regular harmonica on it  (which was retained for the 1980 KTSA version), but I recall hearing what sounds like bass harmonica underscoring the verses of that '78 version. It could be something else that *sounds* like bass harmonica I suppose.

Without digging it out to verify with certainty, yes - that's my recollection, too.
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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2018, 04:38:10 PM »

This thread also got me wondering; did Dennis (or any of the BB drummers) ever actually physically play an electronic drum kit, either live or in the studio?
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« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2018, 05:13:19 PM »

This thread also got me wondering; did Dennis (or any of the BB drummers) ever actually physically play an electronic drum kit, either live or in the studio?

They toured with an electronic drum kit from 1984 to around 1988, if memory serves. Bobby Figueroa and Mike Kowalski traded off on it, and I even saw Al play it (on "Be True To Your School") in '88. Video of their July 4th 1990 performance (in Cape Code, Mass.) reveals John Stamos playing an electronic drum kit (I think he may have mostly bashed the cymbals attached to the kit...which were real cymbals).
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« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2018, 05:26:32 PM »

This thread also got me wondering; did Dennis (or any of the BB drummers) ever actually physically play an electronic drum kit, either live or in the studio?

They toured with an electronic drum kit from 1984 to around 1988, if memory serves. Bobby Figueroa and Mike Kowalski traded off on it, and I even saw Al play it (on "Be True To Your School") in '88. Video of their July 4th 1990 performance (in Cape Code, Mass.) reveals John Stamos playing an electronic drum kit (I think he may have mostly bashed the cymbals attached to the kit...which were real cymbals).

Thanks, c-man. Oh yes, and how could I forget, Stamos plays one in the Summer of Love video too.
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2018, 09:42:41 AM »

You can see Bobby F. playing the electronic drums in this clip from the 1984 DC show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaezkdnJ6WU
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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2018, 10:12:17 AM »

You can see Bobby F. playing the electronic drums in this clip from the 1984 DC show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaezkdnJ6WU

Thanks for that clip, HeyJude. I wonder if Denny would have tried out an electronic kit had he been around then (or perhaps out of curiosity he actually might have tried playing a kit like that in a music store during his lifetime, who knows).
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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2018, 12:12:57 PM »

You can see Bobby F. playing the electronic drums in this clip from the 1984 DC show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaezkdnJ6WU

Thanks for that clip, HeyJude. I wonder if Denny would have tried out an electronic kit had he been around then (or perhaps out of curiosity he actually might have tried playing a kit like that in a music store during his lifetime, who knows).

Thankfully, the band never used an electronic kit like that as their main drum kit on stage. It would have sounded dreadful (with or without Mike Kowalski drumming). So I doubt Dennis would have ever used such a kit as the main drum kit.

I'm no expert on such things, but my recollection is that those early electronic kits had less or no ability (compared to modern stuff) to gauge how hard each drum was kit. So it was often a case of really just using the pads as a non-pressure-sensitive trigger for drum samples/midi, etc.

As a secondary sort of percussion set up, it was innocuous (though interestingly it really only lasted a few years in their rig).
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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2018, 03:01:00 PM »

Dennis would have BATTERED an electric drum kit!
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