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« on: December 28, 2017, 12:03:24 PM »

After recently discovering that Denny had Paul Tanner play theremin on "Tune L" (which contradicted my previous thought that the song "Wild Honey" was the last recorded instance of theremin on a BBs recording - BB member solo tracks not included), I'm curious as to what other instances we have of things like that?  

I should add, of course one could also argue that Tune L was never meant to be a "BBs" track from the onset.

Would Van Dyke's accordion-playing on Summer in Paradise constitute the last time that instrument was played on a BBs track? Or is there some accordion buried on TWGMTR that I've overlooked?

What other examples are there?
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2017, 06:49:44 PM »

Hate to break it to you but there's an accordion on Strange World.

The last time any synthesizers were used was probably SIP or maybe Stars and Stripes.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2017, 07:25:37 PM »

Thinking about sleigh bells...  Be with me may be last but I feel like there is something on MIU with sleigh bells .

Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?

Vibraphones - till I die

Leslie on guitar - youíre so good to me

Tympani - celebrate the news

Dano bass/baritone - today era

Timbales - I get around

Lap steel - Holland era

Triangle - be true to your school (perhaps it was used again? I canít recall)

Bell tree - kiss me baby

Wood block / temple block - good time

Mandolin - Disney girls

Banjo - surfs up era

Tuba - wake the world

Glockenspiel - girl donít tell me

Harpsichord - when I grow up to be a man


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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 07:34:43 PM »

I think a Dano was used on Pet Sounds
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 08:06:00 PM »

Actually a Harpsichord was used on Good Timin' I believe, Dano Bass was used during the Good Vibrations sessions as well as The Smile Sessions, A Celeste not a Glockenspiel used on Girl Don't Tell Me which was used later on as well for other songs. It's quite interesting how much the Celeste has appeared with the Beach Boys. It started way back in 1963 for the Surfin' USA sessions, then Brian used it again for Little Saint Nick. He wasn't done with it, he used it again on Girl Don't Tell Me. After that it was used during the Smile Sessions. I think it disappeared after that. The longest used obscure instrument, the Harpsichord. Used in 1964, 1966, 1967, 1978 and even 2012. Craig can correct me, he's awesome when it comes to this stuff.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 08:08:07 PM »

Brian played a Dano bass on That's Not Me and there is a leslie on the lead guitar on the track Pet Sounds.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 08:30:12 PM »

Thinking about sleigh bells...  Be with me may be last but I feel like there is something on MIU with sleigh bells .

Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?

Vibraphones - till I die - NOPE - "That Same Song", various MIU tracks, "Goin' South", various TWGMTR tracks

Leslie on guitar - youíre so good to me - NOPE: "Loop De Loop" (although you can't really tell) - and, actually: "You're Still A Mystery" (VERY noticeable!) Smiley

Tympani - celebrate the news - NOPE - "Bill And Sue", "Strange World"

Dano bass/baritone - today era - NOPE - Pet Sounds, SMiLE, possibly once or twice later as well

Timbales - I get around - NOPE: "Please Let Me Wonder", "Daybreak Over The Ocean" (although the latter may be sampled)

Lap steel - Holland era - That's pedal steel, my friend Smiley

Triangle - be true to your school (perhaps it was used again? I canít recall)

Bell tree - kiss me baby - MAYBE...but there's mark tree on "Daybreak Over The Ocean", and probably some MIU tracks like "Matchpoint"

Wood block / temple block - good time - NOPE: "Summer's Gone"

Mandolin - Disney girls - NOPE: "Summer In Paradise", possibly some Stars And Stripes track

Banjo - surfs up era - NOPE: "California Saga", "Bill And Sue"

Tuba - wake the world - NOPE: "Loop De Loop"

Glockenspiel - girl donít tell me - POSSIBLY: "Daybreak Over The Ocean" (again, maybe sampled)

Harpsichord - when I grow up to be a man - NOPE: it's all over Pet Sounds and SMiLE...as well as "I'll Bet He's Nice", "Good Timin'" and "Shelter"




See my corrections above... Smiley
EDIT: see my update regarding the Leslie on guitar! Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2017, 02:19:22 AM »


Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?


I'm pretty sure there's a bass harmonica on Friends
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2017, 05:00:30 AM »


Bass harmonica - perhaps pet sounds era?


I'm pretty sure there's a bass harmonica on Friends

There is indeed!  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2017, 06:44:08 AM »

Hate to break it to you but there's an accordion on Strange World.

The last time any synthesizers were used was probably SIP or maybe Stars and Stripes.

I would have to guess some form of synthesizer is somewhere on TWGMTR. Unless it's truly all acoustic piano, some of the keys on the album would presumably come from some sort of electronic piano/synthesizer.

Certainly, if we include solo material there are synths/electric piano on various tracks.

I guess it has been awhile since we got a sort of "DX7" type of 80s synth sound. The last instance of that may be something like Al's "Don't Fight the Sea" (a BB track in all but name), though in that case the synths may actually come from the vintage 1989 sessions for the song.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2017, 10:27:18 AM »

When were real drums last used (ie skins,cymbals played with drumsticks utilising real human limbs) ?  LOL
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2017, 11:00:03 AM »

When were real drums last used (ie skins,cymbals played with drumsticks utilising real human limbs) ?  LOL

And the flipside of that: when was the 1st time a drum machine was used? Was it Lady and/or Til I Die? And then not again for a number of years after?
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2017, 11:48:54 AM »

When were real drums last used (ie skins,cymbals played with drumsticks utilising real human limbs) ?  LOL

And the flipside of that: when was the 1st time a drum machine was used? Was it Lady and/or Til I Die? And then not again for a number of years after?


Isn't there a drum machine on "Our Sweet Love"?
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2017, 01:13:50 PM »

Isn't there a drum machine on "Our Sweet Love"?

I believe the bass drum sound was created by placing a microphone inside a guitar case and keys were used for percussion.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2017, 01:31:24 PM »

When were real drums last used (ie skins,cymbals played with drumsticks utilising real human limbs) ?  LOL

On a Beach Boys album before TWGMTR, I would think it is California Calling with Ringo Starr.
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2017, 01:49:55 PM »

Jim Keltner plays some real drums on "Kokomo", so that comes after BB '85.

I wouldn't be surprised if a smattering of the "Still Cruisin'" material has real drums. It sounds to me like at least "Somewhere Near Japan" and "Island Girl" have real drums.
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2017, 04:38:38 PM »

If we are going to get into super geeky territory here, how about the last time that certain models of Fender guitars were played on BBs recordings? I know Carl played a Jaguar (at least he did live, I'm assuming he did in the studio at some point too?)... did anyone else after the early 60s ever play a Fender Jaguar on a BBs recording?

I love nerdy trivia like this and welcome more of it if anyone has any insight on this Fender type of stuff.
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2017, 08:54:25 PM »

If we are going to get into super geeky territory here, how about the last time that certain models of Fender guitars were played on BBs recordings? I know Carl played a Jaguar (at least he did live, I'm assuming he did in the studio at some point too?)... did anyone else after the early 60s ever play a Fender Jaguar on a BBs recording?


Not sure...but maybe Dave played one on TWGMTR....
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2017, 09:03:54 PM »

Jim Keltner plays some real drums on "Kokomo", so that comes after BB '85.

I wouldn't be surprised if a smattering of the "Still Cruisin'" material has real drums. It sounds to me like at least "Somewhere Near Japan" and "Island Girl" have real drums.

Actually, Keltner programmed an Emu SP1200 drum machine on "Kokomo" - but I think he played a real kit on "Somewhere Near Japan". I believe Kowalski plays on "Island Girl". Vinnie Colauita drums on "In My Car".
But between those tracks and TWGMTR, there were the then-unreleased "Soul Searchin'" and "You're Still A Mystery" - both of which feature real drums (the latter played, once again, by Jim Keltner).
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« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2017, 09:05:56 PM »

When were real drums last used (ie skins,cymbals played with drumsticks utilising real human limbs) ?  LOL

On a Beach Boys album before TWGMTR, I would think it is California Calling with Ringo Starr.

There are other tracks with real drums on that album..."Maybe I Don't Know" is one, although they were then sampled and looped. "It's Just A Matter Of Time" is another...and Stevie played drums on "I Do Love You".
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« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2017, 09:07:14 PM »

Isn't there a drum machine on "Our Sweet Love"?

I believe the bass drum sound was created by placing a microphone inside a guitar case and keys were used for percussion.

Hal Blaine played drums on that track, although they are minimal (like, just hi-hat and kick, with keys added to enhance the hi-hat).
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2017, 09:12:06 PM »

Hate to break it to you but there's an accordion on Strange World.

The last time any synthesizers were used was probably SIP or maybe Stars and Stripes.

I would have to guess some form of synthesizer is somewhere on TWGMTR. Unless it's truly all acoustic piano, some of the keys on the album would presumably come from some sort of electronic piano/synthesizer.

Certainly, if we include solo material there are synths/electric piano on various tracks.

I guess it has been awhile since we got a sort of "DX7" type of 80s synth sound. The last instance of that may be something like Al's "Don't Fight the Sea" (a BB track in all but name), though in that case the synths may actually come from the vintage 1989 sessions for the song.

I think the keyboards on "Daybreak Over The Ocean" are probably the only synths on that album - and they may not be synths in the '80s sense of the word (meaning, digitally created soundwaves), but rather sounds digitally sampled from real instruments.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2017, 08:21:25 AM »

Hate to break it to you but there's an accordion on Strange World.

The last time any synthesizers were used was probably SIP or maybe Stars and Stripes.

I would have to guess some form of synthesizer is somewhere on TWGMTR. Unless it's truly all acoustic piano, some of the keys on the album would presumably come from some sort of electronic piano/synthesizer.

Certainly, if we include solo material there are synths/electric piano on various tracks.

I guess it has been awhile since we got a sort of "DX7" type of 80s synth sound. The last instance of that may be something like Al's "Don't Fight the Sea" (a BB track in all but name), though in that case the synths may actually come from the vintage 1989 sessions for the song.

I think the keyboards on "Daybreak Over The Ocean" are probably the only synths on that album - and they may not be synths in the '80s sense of the word (meaning, digitally created soundwaves), but rather sounds digitally sampled from real instruments.

Are we defining synths in the 80's sense of the word? That's what I was doing. I was guessing modern keyboards would be different from the 70's/80's synthesizers like Moogs and Yamahas.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2017, 01:04:42 PM »

Hate to break it to you but there's an accordion on Strange World.

The last time any synthesizers were used was probably SIP or maybe Stars and Stripes.

I would have to guess some form of synthesizer is somewhere on TWGMTR. Unless it's truly all acoustic piano, some of the keys on the album would presumably come from some sort of electronic piano/synthesizer.

Certainly, if we include solo material there are synths/electric piano on various tracks.

I guess it has been awhile since we got a sort of "DX7" type of 80s synth sound. The last instance of that may be something like Al's "Don't Fight the Sea" (a BB track in all but name), though in that case the synths may actually come from the vintage 1989 sessions for the song.

I think the keyboards on "Daybreak Over The Ocean" are probably the only synths on that album - and they may not be synths in the '80s sense of the word (meaning, digitally created soundwaves), but rather sounds digitally sampled from real instruments.

Are we defining synths in the 80's sense of the word? That's what I was doing. I was guessing modern keyboards would be different from the 70's/80's synthesizers like Moogs and Yamahas.

The '70s synths (Moog, ARP, and Sequential Circuits were the most popular) were analog, or what Bruce calls "steam powered". Popular early '80s models like those made by Roland were analog with digitally controlled oscillators. Classic mid-to-late '80s models by Yamaha, Korg and others were all digital.
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2018, 10:13:23 AM »

What is that pulsey sound from around 00:48 to 00:52 on Strange World? Is that a synth?
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