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Question: Which do you think is the better song?
Bridge Over Troubled Water
You've Got a Friend

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« on: December 24, 2017, 11:48:18 PM »

Hello, here's next Battle of the Songs between Grammy's "Song of the Year" in 1970 and 1971:

Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon & Garfunkel:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6l8EbYRtQMgKOyc1gcDHF9


vs. You've Got a Friend by Carole King:

https://open.spotify.com/track/1qhp5owrFGeZ5Jgin28nwR


Both are great songs of the possibly one of the greatest era of music, but I'd take Bridge Over Troubled Water this time. Maybe You've Got a Friend has more emotion put into, but in terms of production Bridge Over Troubled Water is something else. THAT harmony, and that drum.

Now, which do you think is the better song? Curious to know how you think?
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2017, 04:34:42 AM »

No contest here.  James Taylor's song is nice, but Bridge Over Troubled Water is a masterpiece. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2017, 08:03:57 PM »

Will have to think this over!
I love BOTW. Great production and Art Garfunkel is supurb.
There were two versions of YGaF that came out about the same time. I really liked them both but as the years have gone by I've come to love Carole King's version much more.
Two great songs. Will make decision tomorrow.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2017, 09:39:55 PM »

Made decision. Both great songs but went with Bridge over Troubled Water.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2017, 04:37:30 AM »

Difficult! I heard "BOTW" way, way too often at the time.

I like "YGAF" in the context of Tapestry (a bit like "AIWTD" in the context of 20/20)...

But like KDS and Elizabeth, I eventually went for the masterpiece of composition, performance and production that is "Bridge Over Troubled Water".

The band called Half Man Half Biscuit was always good for hilarious album titles. Achtung Bono was one and another was Trouble Over at Bridgewater. LOL
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 04:49:16 AM »

Carole King makes boring Tapestry, album chockful of weak samey material sung in laughably bad voice, yet she gets Grammy. BBs, THE BEST vocal group, didn't get Grammy. Bottom line: Grammy=biggest joke in music industry. Haha!

Dislike BOTW but Paul Simon is miles better.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 06:20:28 AM »

Bottom line: Grammy=biggest joke in music industry. Haha!



Agreed 100%.  Close second - Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2017, 07:29:02 AM »

Tapestry is boring? Grrrr! 😀

Do agree with you about the Grammy awards.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2017, 07:32:56 AM »

No contest here.  James Taylor's song is nice, but Bridge Over Troubled Water is a masterpiece. 

Thanks to sleep deprivation, I just noticed that I listed James Taylor (I actually prefer his version). 

But, Carol's version also pales in comparison to the masterpiece that is Bridge Over Troubled Water. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2017, 08:24:54 AM »

Bottom line: Grammy=biggest joke in music industry. Haha!


Agreed 100%.  Close second - Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
The fact that BB and its members couldn't receive grammy until 2004 (except for I Write the Songs) says something.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 08:28:13 AM »

Bottom line: Grammy=biggest joke in music industry. Haha!


Agreed 100%.  Close second - Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
The fact that BB and its members couldn't receive grammy until 2004 (except for I Write the Songs) says something.

Right, and the Grammy was for an instrumental.  The founder of the greatest vocal group in history wins a Grammy for an instrumental?  But, the Grammys are also notorious for handing out awards for live versions of decades old songs just to say they gave awards to legacy acts like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 09:22:46 AM »

I remember seeing a video of the 2012 era Beach Boys. They were discussing the Grammy Awards and that Good Vibrations lost for 1966. Brian acted surprised and  asked what song won. When told it was a Mamas and the Papas song his reaction was priceless. Don't know if he was pulling their legs or if he had truly forgotten that GV didn't get a Grammy but it was so funny!
Wish I could find that video.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2017, 09:37:20 AM »

I remember seeing a video of the 2012 era Beach Boys. They were discussing the Grammy Awards and that Good Vibrations lost for 1966. Brian acted surprised and  asked what song won. When told it was a Mamas and the Papas song his reaction was priceless. Don't know if he was pulling their legs or if he had truly forgotten that GV didn't get a Grammy but it was so funny!
Wish I could find that video.

did TWGMTR get any nominations?  It seems like whenever a big name legacy artist releases an album now it gets a token nomination. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2017, 10:02:38 PM »

I remember seeing a video of the 2012 era Beach Boys. They were discussing the Grammy Awards and that Good Vibrations lost for 1966. Brian acted surprised and  asked what song won. When told it was a Mamas and the Papas song his reaction was priceless. Don't know if he was pulling their legs or if he had truly forgotten that GV didn't get a Grammy but it was so funny!
Wish I could find that video.

did TWGMTR get any nominations?  It seems like whenever a big name legacy artist releases an album now it gets a token nomination. 
That's true. I remember when Dylan's TOOM got Album of the Year in 1998. Great album, but where were the Grammy voters when he did Highway 61, BoB, BOTT, or Desire?
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2018, 12:13:18 PM »

No song wins when compared to "Bridge." If you vote for the other song, Art's beautiful voice will come to haunt you in the night.
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2018, 12:36:52 PM »

No song wins when compared to "Bridge." If you vote for the other song, Art's beautiful voice will come to haunt you in the night.

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2018, 02:47:41 PM »

BOTW is a masterpiece in every respect and would stand up  against songs from any year. YGAF  is a nice little song, so much better in the hands of James Taylor., but not in the same league by any metric.
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2018, 05:01:09 PM »

YGAF isn't "nice little song", it's further - boring nice little song. The entire Tapestry can be described like that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 05:38:59 PM »

My goodness! OK, I'll agree about Tapestry and CK's version of YGAF, but JT's version elevates it significantly, IMO, way out of the "boring" range. Never understood Carole King's  success, and really hated when she an Taylor toured together a few years ago. Mega-Props to her, though, for writing "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow."
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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2018, 05:52:11 PM »

Tapestry and Mud Slide Slim came out in my early High School days and I had both albums. At the time I probably was more of a James Taylor fan but came to appreciate Carole King more later.

RR, I figure you wouldn't like MSS as it's very laid back. But you didn't feel the earth move under your feet just a tiny bit with Tapestry? :-)

As for Ms King's voice, it doesn't bother me (just as Bob Dylan's doesn't). She wrote many great songs.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2018, 07:28:02 AM »

But you didn't feel the earth move under your feet just a tiny bit with Tapestry? :-)
No. Don't care about James Taylor either.
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