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« Reply #350 on: December 10, 2018, 10:50:30 AM »

C-Man, this is a little off topic, but do you know if session tapes for the single version of "Cottonfields" still exist?

I beleive so, since it was remixed in stereo for the 2013 MIC box set.
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« Reply #351 on: December 10, 2018, 11:19:24 AM »

C-man tried asking this earlier, but does anyone know when the vocals were done at 5:47 on Been Way Too Long Sessions? They always sounded strange to me. Is it possible that they were done in 1980?
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« Reply #352 on: December 10, 2018, 11:42:49 AM »

I think "I'm Confessin'" is "Lonely Days" ?
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« Reply #353 on: December 10, 2018, 11:56:45 AM »

Child is the father of the man! Grin
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« Reply #354 on: December 10, 2018, 12:13:21 PM »

Child is the father of the man! Grin

What is most striking about this song being on this release: It reminds me so much of the backing track for some Friends songs. I mean, I know part of CIFOTM is in Little Bird, but the SMiLE music style is ever present in these Friends tracks. With Friends Brian regains some of that child-like magic he had in SMiLE, it still seems like a smaller production comparatively but it regains some of that sunshine that is glaringly missing from Smiley Smile.

So when I hear CIFOTM at the end of this set, it doesn't stick out much at all, it kinda fits right in there.
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« Reply #355 on: December 10, 2018, 12:18:46 PM »

Alan Boyd and Mark Linett rule!
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« Reply #356 on: December 10, 2018, 12:44:08 PM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

7Digital isn’t selling new music anymore? Sad
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« Reply #357 on: December 10, 2018, 01:03:51 PM »

Alan Boyd and Mark Linett rule!

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« Reply #358 on: December 10, 2018, 02:26:25 PM »

I haven’t read through the whole thread so I don’t know if anyone else has said it but man, Dennis’s vocal on “All I Want to Do” is far superior to Mike.  Should have put this version on the original album! https://youtu.be/5OK0rEvqHDQ

I'm curious to know the reasoning why Mike was chosen as the lead vocalist over the original Dennis vocal.  Mike's is sorta interesting, unlike anything else he's ever done, but objectively I just don't think it's as strong as Denny's, and I wonder if Denny just didn't have the self confidence to release that type of vocal for himself at that point, or what the reason was.



Well, actually Dennis is struggling to get this song right. Mike's voice (or technique) in that range is much fuller and strong, so I can see why he got the lead on that. While I like Dennis', it is certainly not as direct and in-your-face as Mike's.

I'd been meaning to say something like this as well Rocker. While I think having a Dennis lead on "All I Want To Do" is freaking awesome, it has made me re-investigate the song, and I have to say that Mike Love is the right singer for it. I think if one is able to try to forget its that litigious, money grubbing goofball you realize that his voice really cuts through on this cut in a way Dennis' voice didn't. It'd be like having a breathy Carl lead on "Heroes and Villains" rather than Brian's lead in my opinion. It just wouldn't work. Or at the least it'd be really different.

Agree with you both.  Fascinating to hear the new Dennis lead vocal.  His vocal sits very nicely on it--the feel and weight of his voice--everything clicks together.  But does it have the full punch this song needs?  Mike brings a palpable kinetic energy that I think locks in the song.  Had the key been lowered a step or so maybe some of those high notes would have worked better for Mike.  I do like Mike's "babaayy!" on the choruses. 

I'm glad I have both versions now and I'm sure I'll now always think about "the other cool version" whenever I'm listening to either one of them.
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« Reply #359 on: December 10, 2018, 03:09:19 PM »

C-man tried asking this earlier, but does anyone know when the vocals were done at 5:47 on Been Way Too Long Sessions? They always sounded strange to me. Is it possible that they were done in 1980?

Nope...I'm told that entire section is from one of the 1968 1" reels.
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« Reply #360 on: December 10, 2018, 04:37:40 PM »

On those lines...any info on the 1980 version? Was it attempted or was it just rumored?
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« Reply #361 on: December 10, 2018, 05:01:21 PM »

I haven’t read through the whole thread so I don’t know if anyone else has said it but man, Dennis’s vocal on “All I Want to Do” is far superior to Mike.  Should have put this version on the original album! https://youtu.be/5OK0rEvqHDQ

I'm curious to know the reasoning why Mike was chosen as the lead vocalist over the original Dennis vocal.  Mike's is sorta interesting, unlike anything else he's ever done, but objectively I just don't think it's as strong as Denny's, and I wonder if Denny just didn't have the self confidence to release that type of vocal for himself at that point, or what the reason was.
On the newly released take 2 with Dennis singing, there is actually a part from Mike that ended up on the released version, so I wonder if Mike was always going to be featured on the song somehow.

It's funny you say that because I swore I heard Mike after listening to it a few times, and I thought if I mentioned it here I would be told I was going crazy
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« Reply #362 on: December 10, 2018, 05:03:04 PM »

I went to the I to the I Tunes store and found 'I Can Hear Music: The 20/20 Sessions' is OUT NOW!  I was shocked
My question is will this be out on CD ?  Or just streaming  Huh Brian, Dennis, & Carl
Thank you, Billy, to combine Surfer's thread with this, main CE thread. To answer Surfer's question, it's digital download. At page 11 read instructions to do it.

Sth. to say about the press talk up et al - let's not make big deal. If the sessions didn't get announcement, it definitely isn't end of the world. Just take for granted that fact & enjoy listening to BBs' new collections.
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« Reply #363 on: December 10, 2018, 05:45:24 PM »

On those lines...any info on the 1980 version? Was it attempted or was it just rumored?

Definitely attempted (I have the AFM sheet). But there was an just instrumental track, no vocals, recorded immediately after the KTSA sessions. However, it may or may not have actually been intended for The Beach Boys. It could possibly have been done for The Captain and Tennille, as it was recorded at Rumbo by their engineer at the time.
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« Reply #364 on: December 10, 2018, 05:46:48 PM »

On those lines...any info on the 1980 version? Was it attempted or was it just rumored?

Definitely attempted (I have the AFM sheet). But there was an just instrumental track, no vocals, recorded immediately after the KTSA sessions. However, it may or may not have actually been intended for The Beach Boys. It could possibly have been done for The Captain and Tennille, as it was recorded at Rumbo by their engineer at the time.

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« Reply #365 on: December 10, 2018, 06:29:06 PM »

On those lines...any info on the 1980 version? Was it attempted or was it just rumored?

Definitely attempted (I have the AFM sheet). But there was an just instrumental track, no vocals, recorded immediately after the KTSA sessions. However, it may or may not have actually been intended for The Beach Boys. It could possibly have been done for The Captain and Tennille, as it was recorded at Rumbo by their engineer at the time.

Wow thanks for that info! Been curious about that forever!
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« Reply #366 on: December 10, 2018, 06:38:02 PM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

They are up at 7Digital now
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« Reply #367 on: December 10, 2018, 07:38:06 PM »

I'm blown away by the alternate "Bluebirds Over the Mountain"! It's sounds like a brand new song. Not sure that it would have performed any better as a single at the time, but I definitely prefer this version, by far.

My girlfriend is not usually a fan of the BB (though she loves Good Vibrations and Vega-tables among others), so much to my surprise I was just listening to the alternate Bluebirds Over The Mountain and she came in the room when it finished asking what song was that?  When I told her she was really surprised that it was The Beach Boys!  Pretty cool!
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« Reply #368 on: December 10, 2018, 07:48:57 PM »

Did anyone else shed a tear listening to Audree singing "Is It True What They Say About Dixie?" I sure did.

What a sweet and truly lovely gift that Alan, Mark, and the powers that be gave us here. Thank you sincerely.

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« Reply #369 on: December 10, 2018, 08:16:12 PM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

They are up at 7Digital now
Must have added them after I complained. Thanks for the info!  Grin
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« Reply #370 on: December 10, 2018, 08:24:27 PM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

They are up at 7Digital now
Must have added them after I complained. Thanks for the info!  Grin

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« Reply #371 on: December 11, 2018, 12:32:22 AM »

If anyone was curious about the evolution of Even Steven to Busy Doin' Nothin'...
Brian used the same backing track with some modifications.  Part of the outro was spliced and used as the intro, some of the instrumentation was taken out of the mix, and everything was slowed down by around 8% (a bit more than a semitone).  The vocal for BDN must have been recorded over this new edited backing track, as the vocals on that do not appear to be slowed down.  Here is my approximation of the edits to Even Steven, ignore the slowed down vocals.

https://soundcloud.com/smileyhoneyfriends-1/even-steven
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« Reply #372 on: December 11, 2018, 05:34:59 AM »

If anyone was curious about the evolution of Even Steven to Busy Doin' Nothin'...
Brian used the same backing track with some modifications.  Part of the outro was spliced and used as the intro, some of the instrumentation was taken out of the mix, and everything was slowed down by around 8% (a bit more than a semitone).  The vocal for BDN must have been recorded over this new edited backing track, as the vocals on that do not appear to be slowed down.  Here is my approximation of the edits to Even Steven, ignore the slowed down vocals.

https://soundcloud.com/smileyhoneyfriends-1/even-steven

He also completely re-recorded the "B" section ("Take all the time you need", etc.), at a slower speed, and edited that in.
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« Reply #373 on: December 11, 2018, 08:43:17 AM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

They are up at 7Digital now

Rookie question I'm sure, but I see there are two options: MP3 files and FLAC files. I know I can bring MP3s into ITunes very easily.
How do you listen to FLAC files? Do you need to convert them or something?

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« Reply #374 on: December 11, 2018, 01:06:44 PM »

Also they're not going to appear on 7Digital anytime soon. They haven't updated the albums available since last month, and when I contacted them about this they said that they have no plans to add anything more for the foreseeable future.

They are up at 7Digital now

Rookie question I'm sure, but I see there are two options: MP3 files and FLAC files. I know I can bring MP3s into ITunes very easily.
How do you listen to FLAC files? Do you need to convert them or something?


Depends on what you are using to listen to them with.  If you're playing them on a phone, then it doesn't matter what they sound like, so mp3 is for you.
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