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« on: October 30, 2017, 06:11:12 AM »

We get an entire stereo version of Wild Honey. It seems odd to me that disc 2 doesn't go througj a stereo mix of the entire Smiley Smiley album. A few alternate versions, which is cool. And as far as I can tell, She's Goin Bald is the only song not touched from Smiley. Any reason why? I have even heard Mike mention the song in a past interview.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 07:53:00 AM »

"Smiley Smile" was released in stereo in 2012 by Capitol:

https://www.amazon.com/Smiley-Smile-Mono-Stereo-Remasters/dp/B008LA7RI4

I guess the 2012 mono/stereo discs may not be in print any longer. But used copies are plentiful it would appear in most cases (I didn't look up every title).

The mono/stereo "Smiley Smile" CD was also released by Analogue Productions as a CD/SACD hybrid, which still appears to be available:

https://www.musicdirect.com/optical-disc/the-beach-boys-smiley-smile-hybrid-stereo-sacd
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2017, 08:00:09 AM »

While I agree it would have been great to get more of the Smiley Smile tracking sessions, i don't understand your complaint.

Smiley Smile is already widely available as a stereo mix, (since 2012?). This was the first time a Wild Honey stereo mix became available.

https://www.discogs.com/Beach-Boys-Smiley-Smile/master/78344
https://www.discogs.com/The-Beach-Boys-Smiley-Smile/release/8747494
https://www.amazon.com/Smiley-Smile-Mono-Stereo-Mixes/dp/B00URMHPFO

Original mono mix produced by The Beach Boys
Stereo mixes produced by Mark Linett and Alan Boyd / Mixed by Mark Linett

Smiley Smile stereo mix created using the original 1967 session multi-tracks. The album, having been recorded to analog tape, was then transferred to high resolution digital and then mixed from high resolution digital assembled masters (88.2 kHz/24 bit) and printed to 1/4" analog tape at 15 ips CCIR.


Also, there are a plethora of Smiley Smile tracking sessions available on Sea of Tunes vol 18
https://www.discogs.com/Beach-Boys-Unsurpassed-Masters-Vol-18-1967-The-Alternate-Smiley-Smile-Album/release/3295739
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2017, 08:31:42 AM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2017, 08:50:56 AM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2017, 08:55:26 AM »

There's nothing on Gettin' Hungry either unless you count the Hawaii live version. I don't really mind given that so much is already on SoT, they chose a good selection of bonus tracks for how many disks they had to work with but what I'd really love one day is a proper Smiley Smile / Wild Honey Sessions box as unlikely a chance there is of that ever happening. Pet Sounds & Smile Sessions style sets for basically any of their albums up to Surf's Up (& also Love You) would probably be super interesting. CATP & Holland could make do with a Sunshine Tomorrow type deal.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2017, 08:58:02 AM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2017, 09:18:28 AM »

There's nothing on Gettin' Hungry either unless you count the Hawaii live version. I don't really mind given that so much is already on SoT, they chose a good selection of bonus tracks for how many disks they had to work with but what I'd really love one day is a proper Smiley Smile / Wild Honey Sessions box as unlikely a chance there is of that ever happening. Pet Sounds & Smile Sessions style sets for basically any of their albums up to Surf's Up (& also Love You) would probably be super interesting. CATP & Holland could make do with a Sunshine Tomorrow type deal.

I was about to mention Getting Hungry, but realized there is at least a little Be version. I understand there was limited space. But I would have left off the Surfs Up Sessions given that it is already on the Smile Sessions. Perhaps Im knit picking. Over all a great release. And I have been over all happy with the work that Alan Boyd and Mark Linett have been doing!
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2017, 09:21:01 AM »

There's nothing on Gettin' Hungry either unless you count the Hawaii live version. I don't really mind given that so much is already on SoT, they chose a good selection of bonus tracks for how many disks they had to work with but what I'd really love one day is a proper Smiley Smile / Wild Honey Sessions box as unlikely a chance there is of that ever happening. Pet Sounds & Smile Sessions style sets for basically any of their albums up to Surf's Up (& also Love You) would probably be super interesting. CATP & Holland could make do with a Sunshine Tomorrow type deal.

I was about to mention Getting Hungry, but realized there is at least a little Be version. I understand there was limited space. But I would have left off the Surfs Up Sessions given that it is already on the Smile Sessions. Perhaps Im knit picking. Over all a great release. And I have been over all happy with the work that Alan Boyd and Mark Linett have been doing!
That minute and a half of Brian doing Surf's Up warm-up takes is my favourite thing on the whole set!
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2017, 11:13:07 AM »

There's nothing on Gettin' Hungry either unless you count the Hawaii live version. I don't really mind given that so much is already on SoT, they chose a good selection of bonus tracks for how many disks they had to work with but what I'd really love one day is a proper Smiley Smile / Wild Honey Sessions box as unlikely a chance there is of that ever happening. Pet Sounds & Smile Sessions style sets for basically any of their albums up to Surf's Up (& also Love You) would probably be super interesting. CATP & Holland could make do with a Sunshine Tomorrow type deal.

I was about to mention Getting Hungry, but realized there is at least a little Be version. I understand there was limited space. But I would have left off the Surfs Up Sessions given that it is already on the Smile Sessions. Perhaps Im knit picking. Over all a great release. And I have been over all happy with the work that Alan Boyd and Mark Linett have been doing!
That minute and a half of Brian doing Surf's Up warm-up takes is my favourite thing on the whole set!

It's cool, but isn't on the Smile sessions box? Just in terms of representing every Smiley Smile song to include She's Going Bald.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2017, 11:58:53 AM »

There's nothing on Gettin' Hungry either unless you count the Hawaii live version. I don't really mind given that so much is already on SoT, they chose a good selection of bonus tracks for how many disks they had to work with but what I'd really love one day is a proper Smiley Smile / Wild Honey Sessions box as unlikely a chance there is of that ever happening. Pet Sounds & Smile Sessions style sets for basically any of their albums up to Surf's Up (& also Love You) would probably be super interesting. CATP & Holland could make do with a Sunshine Tomorrow type deal.

I was about to mention Getting Hungry, but realized there is at least a little Be version. I understand there was limited space. But I would have left off the Surfs Up Sessions given that it is already on the Smile Sessions. Perhaps Im knit picking. Over all a great release. And I have been over all happy with the work that Alan Boyd and Mark Linett have been doing!
That minute and a half of Brian doing Surf's Up warm-up takes is my favourite thing on the whole set!

It's cool, but isn't on the Smile sessions box? Just in terms of representing every Smiley Smile song to include She's Going Bald.

Only the final take, not the whole session excerpt beforehand. It's also something from the actual Wild Honey sessions - if they were gonna lose anything to include more Smiley outtakes I'd choose the I Get Around/Graduation Day/California Girls live tracks.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2017, 12:01:53 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2017, 12:20:14 PM »


1) Treat others as you expect to be treated yourself.

2) Keep Smiley Smile in mono.

As a basic life philosophy,  it's simple, but it's really all you need.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 12:24:14 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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Well boys I don't wanna jump the gun and speculate too hard but I'd say this means the copyright extension release is giving us the complete Smiley Smile multitracks, Good Vibrations in true stereo, Surf's Up Part 2, the I Ran vocal session, March 2nd two part Heroes and Villains safety copy, Do A Lot: Toothbrush & Running Water Edition, Dennis' I Just Wasn't Made for These Times vocal, and most importantly Is Jack Rieley Superman?
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2017, 12:35:21 PM »

Keep up the good work Mark! Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 12:43:01 PM »

And if you can ... get us a definitive Can't Wait Too Long!
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2017, 02:58:29 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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Shocked What can it mean?!?!

Well boys I don't wanna jump the gun and speculate too hard but I'd say this means the copyright extension release is giving us the complete Smiley Smile multitracks, Good Vibrations in true stereo, Surf's Up Part 2, the I Ran vocal session, March 2nd two part Heroes and Villains safety copy, Do A Lot: Toothbrush & Running Water Edition, Dennis' I Just Wasn't Made for These Times vocal, and most importantly Is Jack Rieley Superman?

I'm in, but ONLY if this paves the way for the release of the complete Jasper Daily sessions!  Razz
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2017, 03:42:43 PM »

Or lost 1967 BW humor album! Cool Guy
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2017, 05:42:50 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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Archival release with Smile sessions and mixes not on the box (Barnyard in stereo with backing vocals, the 3 minute mono mix of Child for example), Smiley sessions and alternate mixes and outtakes (there's a With Me Tonight still unreleased), complete Hawaii live concerts and rehearsals!  I'm ready for it Mark and Alan!
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2017, 06:21:06 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

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Shocked What can it mean?!?!

Archival release with Smile sessions and mixes not on the box (Barnyard in stereo with backing vocals, the 3 minute mono mix of Child for example), Smiley sessions and alternate mixes and outtakes (there's a With Me Tonight still unreleased), complete Hawaii live concerts and rehearsals!  I'm ready for it Mark and Alan!

Not much hope for anything new being unearthed but I really hope that's what it is. And Love to Say Dada in stereo!! And Surf's Up and Do You Like Worms and Mrs. O'Leary's Cow and partial Child is Father of the Man and Cabin Essence stereo mixes? Even though they're 1966? Pls? I can dream
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2017, 06:54:10 PM »

I thought there was a stereo release of Wild Honey already as well. This is not so much a complaint. I really like this release. Just seemed odd that Shes Going Bald was the only song from Smiley not touched as far as I can tell.

stay tuned

Shocked What can it mean?!?!

Archival release with Smile sessions and mixes not on the box (Barnyard in stereo with backing vocals, the 3 minute mono mix of Child for example), Smiley sessions and alternate mixes and outtakes (there's a With Me Tonight still unreleased), complete Hawaii live concerts and rehearsals!  I'm ready for it Mark and Alan!

Get ready for disappointment then Wink

Remember how with the Graduation Day 1966 release, there were a few bonus tracks made up of some radio spots and "Row Row Row Your Boat"? I'd expect a similar situation here. Like, for example, the main focus would be the two Hawaii shows, with a couple little bonuses that didn't make it onto Sunshine Tomorrow tacked on there at the end. I'd crap my pants if the Durrie Parks H&V acetate was one of them!
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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2017, 07:24:45 PM »

Yeah I don't have a lot of faith but they'd be crazy to not put out stereo mixes of the other Smile stuff that can be in stereo but hasn't been released digitally yet, it's practically the only thing I can imagine non-hardcore fans would actually care about and want to pay money for
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« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2017, 07:34:03 PM »

Yeah I don't have a lot of faith but they'd be crazy to not put out stereo mixes of the other Smile stuff that can be in stereo but hasn't been released digitally yet, it's practically the only thing I can imagine non-hardcore fans would actually care about and want to pay money for

I would think most non-fans would find the currently released five discs of sessions to be sufficient.
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« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2017, 07:51:54 PM »

Yeah I don't have a lot of faith but they'd be crazy to not put out stereo mixes of the other Smile stuff that can be in stereo but hasn't been released digitally yet, it's practically the only thing I can imagine non-hardcore fans would actually care about and want to pay money for

I would think most non-fans would find the currently released five discs of sessions to be sufficient.

Those same people also often post in youtube comments sections that they wish this stuff was in full stereo, or seek out fan stereo mixes, or say they sometimes prefer listening to BWPS because of the better sound quality. Non-fans aren't even gonna have the 5 disk set in the first place.
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« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2017, 09:26:54 PM »

Yeah I don't have a lot of faith but they'd be crazy to not put out stereo mixes of the other Smile stuff that can be in stereo but hasn't been released digitally yet, it's practically the only thing I can imagine non-hardcore fans would actually care about and want to pay money for

I would think most non-fans would find the currently released five discs of sessions to be sufficient.

Those same people also often post in youtube comments sections that they wish this stuff was in full stereo, or seek out fan stereo mixes, or say they sometimes prefer listening to BWPS because of the better sound quality. Non-fans aren't even gonna have the 5 disk set in the first place.

And you would argue that commenters on YouTube videos are a likely market for archival releases of Beach Boys sessions?
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