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I wouldn't be surprised at all.
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I think it’s important for us all to note that Mike is doing the first promotional event for his solo album at a mall shirt store.
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Quote from: Wirestone on February 09, 2018, 04:20:26 PM
I think it’s important for us all to note that Mike is doing the first promotional event for his solo alum at a mall shirt store.
Absolutely important! And myKe luHv may as well start at the bottom for an album that's gonna stay at the bottom like SIP did.
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I think Mike's album could get some attention if it were promoted better, like with a promotional tv commercial.
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I think Mike's album could get some attention if it were promoted better, like with a promotional tv commercial.
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I wonder, would Mike's album get this much flack if it didn't include a bonus disc of BB's remakes?
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Quote from: Jay on February 13, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
I wonder, would Mike's album get this much flack if it didn't include a bonus disc of BB's remakes?
Probably not as much, though there are even inferior remakes on the first disc of “Getcha Back” and “Daybreak Over the Ocean”. And I think people might be less upset about the disc two remakes if any hint of effort was put into it. If he had to do a disc of remakes, he should have just recorded it live. Would have at least sounded a lot better than the slick auto-tuned garbage he put out.
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Quote from: Jay on February 13, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
I wonder, would Mike's album get this much flack if it didn't include a bonus disc of BB's remakes?
Probably not as much, though there are even inferior remakes on the first disc of “Getcha Back” and “Daybreak Over the Ocean”. And I think people might be less upset about the disc two remakes if any hint of effort was put into it. If he had to do a disc of remakes, he should have just recorded it live. Would have at least sounded a lot better than the slick auto-tuned garbage he put out.
That's an interesting point. I think Mike and Bruce could probably improve their reputation if they issued a live album of the current live group. Or even a live version of Mike's new stuff
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Quote from: Jay on February 13, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
I wonder, would Mike's album get this much flack if it didn't include a bonus disc of BB's remakes?
Probably not. But I think the first disc would be far more scrutinized than it currently is if the second didn’t exist. That second disc takes the brunt of the criticism (and it makes the first disc look like
Pet Sounds
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Still, that first disc is surprising in that most of it doesn’t try to rehash that cliched Beach Boys sound and subject. It’s its own unique solo album that probably would’ve gone over a bit better if you take away ‘Getcha Back’, the second disc, and the horrible vocal processing. Also, after the lawsuits and constant media bitching about the Wilsons, Mike singing about unleashing the love is ironic to say the least.
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Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes
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Quote from: Jay on February 13, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
I wonder, would Mike's album get this much flack if it didn't include a bonus disc of BB's remakes?
I dont think so.
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I think Mike's solo release would face controversy and criticism, regardless of the re-records or not, just due to his personality and actions over the years. I do think the album would have gotten better reception among fans if it didn't have the re recordings. I actually like the new version of Getcha Back more than the old one, despite the vocal processing. New words and arrangement are really cool. I also really love Wild Honey, Warmth Of The Sun, Brian's Back, Wouldn't It Be Nice, and the chorus of California Girls (not the verses!) from the re-record disc. I could go the rest of my life without listening to the rest of the re-recordings.
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Quote from: NateRuvin on February 14, 2018, 07:30:52 AM
I think Mike's solo release would face controversy and criticism, regardless of the re-records or not, just due to his personality and actions over the years. I do think the album would have gotten better reception among fans if it didn't have the re recordings. I actually like the new version of Getcha Back more than the old one, despite the vocal processing. New words and arrangement are really cool. I also really love Wild Honey, Warmth Of The Sun, Brian's Back, Wouldn't It Be Nice, and the chorus of California Girls (not the verses!) from the re-record disc. I could go the rest of my life without listening to the rest of the re-recordings.
I think even some of Mike's detractors might have been more receptive to the album had it not featured so much autotune also.
As a one disc release with no autotune, its a pretty good MOR late career release.
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I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.
When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.
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Quote from: Cabinessenceking on February 14, 2018, 10:05:28 AM
I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.
When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.
I said before that the album would fare far better without the covers disc.
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Quote from: Cabinessenceking on February 14, 2018, 10:05:28 AM
I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.
When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.
I said before that the album would fare far better without the covers disc.
In terms of sales? I don't think this artist garners any significant number of sales
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Mike should have just taken that circa 2004 circulating album's worth of songs and put *that* out. It sounds far better, features less remakes (and the remakes he *did* do on that one included stuff like his remake of "Everyone's In Love With You" which, while far from a masterpiece, is much better than his new remake of "Getcha Back"), and I think it would have garnered him better reviews from the few publications who *did* bother to review it.
But, as was confirmed by Mike in his recent Mojo interview (and something I suspected and mentioned several months back before the album came out), it was the record label who asked for the "classic" remakes. I tend to doubt they just thought it would be an interesting thing to do, but rather they probably felt putting a bunch of classic song titles on the package (and slapping a BB logo on the sticker on the cover) was the only way the album would be worth granting a record deal to Mike. As it is, even with a cheap price tag for a 2-disc set and an album's worth of "classics", the album predictably pretty much sank and didn't even chart on the main Top 200 albums chart.
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Quote from: Cabinessenceking on February 14, 2018, 10:05:28 AM
I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.
When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.
I said before that the album would fare far better without the covers disc.
In terms of sales? I don't think this artist garners any significant number of sales
No, in terms of quality.
I don't judge music by sales. If so, Ed Sheeran was the "best" artist of 2017
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Quote from: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 06:51:48 AM
Mike should have just taken that circa 2004 circulating album's worth of songs and put *that* out. It sounds far better, features less remakes (and the remakes he *did* do on that one included stuff like his remake of "Everyone's In Love With You" which, while far from a masterpiece, is much better than his new remake of "Getcha Back"), and I think it would have garnered him better reviews from the few publications who *did* bother to review it.
But, as was confirmed by Mike in his recent Mojo interview (and something I suspected and mentioned several months back before the album came out), it was the record label who asked for the "classic" remakes. I tend to doubt they just thought it would be an interesting thing to do, but rather they probably felt putting a bunch of classic song titles on the package (and slapping a BB logo on the sticker on the cover) was the only way the album would be worth granting a record deal to Mike. As it is, even with a cheap price tag for a 2-disc set and an album's worth of "classics", the album predictably pretty much sank and didn't even chart on the main Top 200 albums chart.
In recent years, legacy acts such as KISS and Journey have done distribution deals with Wal Mart, and part of the deal was a 2nd disc of re-recorded classics from the back catalog. It's all part of the short sighted view of legacy artists in general.
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Quote from: KDS on February 15, 2018, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 06:51:48 AM
Mike should have just taken that circa 2004 circulating album's worth of songs and put *that* out. It sounds far better, features less remakes (and the remakes he *did* do on that one included stuff like his remake of "Everyone's In Love With You" which, while far from a masterpiece, is much better than his new remake of "Getcha Back"), and I think it would have garnered him better reviews from the few publications who *did* bother to review it.
But, as was confirmed by Mike in his recent Mojo interview (and something I suspected and mentioned several months back before the album came out), it was the record label who asked for the "classic" remakes. I tend to doubt they just thought it would be an interesting thing to do, but rather they probably felt putting a bunch of classic song titles on the package (and slapping a BB logo on the sticker on the cover) was the only way the album would be worth granting a record deal to Mike. As it is, even with a cheap price tag for a 2-disc set and an album's worth of "classics", the album predictably pretty much sank and didn't even chart on the main Top 200 albums chart.
In recent years, legacy acts such as KISS and Journey have done distribution deals with Wal Mart, and part of the deal was a 2nd disc of re-recorded classics from the back catalog. It's all part of the short sighted view of legacy artists in general.
But it's not particularly analogous, as those bands would have been trying to go from a "regular" record deal to a huge deal with Walmart. I'd venture to guess both of those bands could have gotten a less lucrative but still mainstream record deal (perhaps with Eagle or Frontiers or something like that as other older bands with solid core fan bases have) without having to bundle a second disc of re-recorded "classics."
In Mike's case, to score a deal *at all* he apparently had to bundle a disc of re-recordings, and re-recordings of *another* band rather than a disc of "Mike Love" re-recordings.
Those other bands are guaranteed to shift hundreds of thousands if not millions of units on day one by cutting those deals with Walmart.
Mike did the re-records and all it really accomplished was that he got a distributor instead of just selling the album himself on CD Baby or Amazon-On-Demand or something.
Let us also remember that the label that put Mike's album out is part of the same big conglomerate as the publisher of his book, so I wouldn't be surprised if both of those projects were somehow bundled together in one deal.
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Quote from: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 09:15:13 AM
Quote from: KDS on February 15, 2018, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: HeyJude on February 15, 2018, 06:51:48 AM
Mike should have just taken that circa 2004 circulating album's worth of songs and put *that* out. It sounds far better, features less remakes (and the remakes he *did* do on that one included stuff like his remake of "Everyone's In Love With You" which, while far from a masterpiece, is much better than his new remake of "Getcha Back"), and I think it would have garnered him better reviews from the few publications who *did* bother to review it.
But, as was confirmed by Mike in his recent Mojo interview (and something I suspected and mentioned several months back before the album came out), it was the record label who asked for the "classic" remakes. I tend to doubt they just thought it would be an interesting thing to do, but rather they probably felt putting a bunch of classic song titles on the package (and slapping a BB logo on the sticker on the cover) was the only way the album would be worth granting a record deal to Mike. As it is, even with a cheap price tag for a 2-disc set and an album's worth of "classics", the album predictably pretty much sank and didn't even chart on the main Top 200 albums chart.
In recent years, legacy acts such as KISS and Journey have done distribution deals with Wal Mart, and part of the deal was a 2nd disc of re-recorded classics from the back catalog. It's all part of the short sighted view of legacy artists in general.
But it's not particularly analogous, as those bands would have been trying to go from a "regular" record deal to a huge deal with Walmart. I'd venture to guess both of those bands could have gotten a less lucrative but still mainstream record deal (perhaps with Eagle or Frontiers or something like that as other older bands with solid core fan bases have) without having to bundle a second disc of re-recorded "classics."
In Mike's case, to score a deal *at all* he apparently had to bundle a disc of re-recordings, and re-recordings of *another* band rather than a disc of "Mike Love" re-recordings.
Those other bands are guaranteed to shift hundreds of thousands if not millions of units on day one by cutting those deals with Walmart.
Mike did the re-records and all it really accomplished was that he got a distributor instead of just selling the album himself on CD Baby or Amazon-On-Demand or something.
Let us also remember that the label that put Mike's album out is part of the same big conglomerate as the publisher of his book, so I wouldn't be surprised if both of those projects were somehow bundled together in one deal.
I agree, in part.
But, I don't see how the label would logically think the album would shift more copies with a disc of Beach Boys remakes.
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