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Author Topic: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes  (Read 144249 times)
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« Reply #850 on: November 27, 2017, 01:48:22 PM »

CD sales at concert merch stands *can* be submitted, but there are a bunch of guidelines that must be followed.

I'm not sure Mike's operation would jump through all those hoops, and I'm also not sure the sales would be enough to jump them that high up the chart.

I don’t know, texting a phone number flashed on a screen behind the band to get 50% off the CD at a concert seems like a great sales tactic.
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« Reply #851 on: November 27, 2017, 01:50:29 PM »

CD sales at concert merch stands *can* be submitted, but there are a bunch of guidelines that must be followed.

I'm not sure Mike's operation would jump through all those hoops, and I'm also not sure the sales would be enough to jump them that high up the chart.

I don’t know, texting a phone number flashed on a screen behind the band to get 50% off the CD at a concert seems like a great sales tactic.

If it's a 50% off code for purchasing online, then it *might* be able to be counted.

If it's sold for 50% off at the merch stand, Neilsen Soundscan states it can't be counted.

Every link on Mike's website to purchase the album points to Amazon, so I'm not sure where the 50% discount code would be applicable.
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« Reply #852 on: November 27, 2017, 01:59:22 PM »

Interesting info about what counts and what doesn't... still it's the same for all artists. It's not like other artists aren't selling copies at concerts, in stores, online, and digitally. At the end of the day, hovering around #800 on Amazon is not gonna cut it (especially if the album isn't as widely available in stores as other albums are). Look at the numbers for Sunshine Tomorrow (which probably cracked the top 20 on Amazon at its peak!)...
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« Reply #853 on: November 27, 2017, 03:23:12 PM »

When does the billboard album chart come out?
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« Reply #854 on: November 28, 2017, 07:36:43 AM »

While there are some articles mentioned the new albums chart results (e.g. the top performers) today, it looks like the actual "Top 200" chart on the Billboard website still refers to the previous week's charts. So I don't think the full Top 200 for the week Mike's album premiered is viewable yet.

It appears to have updated. When I checked the website yesterday Abbey Road was #194, now it's #174. Unsurprisingly, the various Christmas albums have all jumped up the charts. Also, unsurprisingly, no Unleash the Love.
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« Reply #855 on: November 28, 2017, 10:43:04 AM »

Unleash the love has now beaten the Eagles greatest hits as the biggest selling album of all times....  LOL
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« Reply #856 on: November 28, 2017, 10:45:00 AM »

It's pretty miraculous that Mike Love got a record deal in the first place to release an album of new material. Old-timers from the Sixties are usually told by the industry these days, "either rerecord the old hits as duets or make an album where you cover famous songs from other artists". It's obvious the second disc had to be included in order for the company to agree to release the new material, but we can just disregard it and at least we got a whole LP of new material!

It's ok of course to not like the CD but I do wonder: will those who wish the CD didn't even exist be happy when ML and all of the other BBs are dead -- which will be the case in just a few years -- and there can never be ANY new material from any of them, including Mike? I think it's great that there even IS new solo BB material being released; even if it's not grade-A music, it's better than what awaits all of us as fans, which is no new material, ever, when they finally pass away.

I am glad Mike is trying to release new music, I just wish he would avoid Autotune and not be a gigantic hypocrite about the issue. And the curry line is beyond embarrassing.

Any response to my comparison of the curry line and a watermelon/chitlin comment? That type of reference done in a stereotypical black butler 1930s type voice would be perfectly fine in your eyes too at the end of a song by Mike?

Tumbleweeds from kreen...
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« Reply #857 on: November 28, 2017, 10:52:51 AM »

While there are some articles mentioned the new albums chart results (e.g. the top performers) today, it looks like the actual "Top 200" chart on the Billboard website still refers to the previous week's charts. So I don't think the full Top 200 for the week Mike's album premiered is viewable yet.

It appears to have updated. When I checked the website yesterday Abbey Road was #194, now it's #174. Unsurprisingly, the various Christmas albums have all jumped up the charts. Also, unsurprisingly, no Unleash the Love.

Great, so we'll get a "Santa's Gonna Unleash the Love" remix next year....
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« Reply #858 on: November 28, 2017, 11:08:49 AM »

While there are some articles mentioned the new albums chart results (e.g. the top performers) today, it looks like the actual "Top 200" chart on the Billboard website still refers to the previous week's charts. So I don't think the full Top 200 for the week Mike's album premiered is viewable yet.

It appears to have updated. When I checked the website yesterday Abbey Road was #194, now it's #174. Unsurprisingly, the various Christmas albums have all jumped up the charts. Also, unsurprisingly, no Unleash the Love.

Great, so we'll get a "Santa's Gonna Unleash the Love" remix next year....

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« Reply #859 on: November 28, 2017, 12:13:16 PM »

It's pretty miraculous that Mike Love got a record deal in the first place to release an album of new material. Old-timers from the Sixties are usually told by the industry these days, "either rerecord the old hits as duets or make an album where you cover famous songs from other artists". It's obvious the second disc had to be included in order for the company to agree to release the new material, but we can just disregard it and at least we got a whole LP of new material!

It's ok of course to not like the CD but I do wonder: will those who wish the CD didn't even exist be happy when ML and all of the other BBs are dead -- which will be the case in just a few years -- and there can never be ANY new material from any of them, including Mike? I think it's great that there even IS new solo BB material being released; even if it's not grade-A music, it's better than what awaits all of us as fans, which is no new material, ever, when they finally pass away.

I am glad Mike is trying to release new music, I just wish he would avoid Autotune and not be a gigantic hypocrite about the issue. And the curry line is beyond embarrassing.

Any response to my comparison of the curry line and a watermelon/chitlin comment? That type of reference done in a stereotypical black butler 1930s type voice would be perfectly fine in your eyes too at the end of a song by Mike?

Tumbleweeds from kreen...

He/she also never answered why he would constantly slag off Brian and his newer music while saying, "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"

Sure is odd.
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« Reply #860 on: November 28, 2017, 12:54:40 PM »

It's pretty miraculous that Mike Love got a record deal in the first place to release an album of new material. Old-timers from the Sixties are usually told by the industry these days, "either rerecord the old hits as duets or make an album where you cover famous songs from other artists". It's obvious the second disc had to be included in order for the company to agree to release the new material, but we can just disregard it and at least we got a whole LP of new material!

It's ok of course to not like the CD but I do wonder: will those who wish the CD didn't even exist be happy when ML and all of the other BBs are dead -- which will be the case in just a few years -- and there can never be ANY new material from any of them, including Mike? I think it's great that there even IS new solo BB material being released; even if it's not grade-A music, it's better than what awaits all of us as fans, which is no new material, ever, when they finally pass away.

I am glad Mike is trying to release new music, I just wish he would avoid Autotune and not be a gigantic hypocrite about the issue. And the curry line is beyond embarrassing.

Any response to my comparison of the curry line and a watermelon/chitlin comment? That type of reference done in a stereotypical black butler 1930s type voice would be perfectly fine in your eyes too at the end of a song by Mike?

Tumbleweeds from kreen...

He/she also never answered why he would constantly slag off Brian and his newer music while saying, "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"

Sure is odd.

Kreen is a troll, just like Mike’sTheGreatest and all the other apologists unable to join in rational discourse regarding firestorms they start with their inane posts.
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« Reply #861 on: November 28, 2017, 01:19:14 PM »

It's pretty miraculous that Mike Love got a record deal in the first place to release an album of new material. Old-timers from the Sixties are usually told by the industry these days, "either rerecord the old hits as duets or make an album where you cover famous songs from other artists". It's obvious the second disc had to be included in order for the company to agree to release the new material, but we can just disregard it and at least we got a whole LP of new material!

It's ok of course to not like the CD but I do wonder: will those who wish the CD didn't even exist be happy when ML and all of the other BBs are dead -- which will be the case in just a few years -- and there can never be ANY new material from any of them, including Mike? I think it's great that there even IS new solo BB material being released; even if it's not grade-A music, it's better than what awaits all of us as fans, which is no new material, ever, when they finally pass away.

I am glad Mike is trying to release new music, I just wish he would avoid Autotune and not be a gigantic hypocrite about the issue. And the curry line is beyond embarrassing.

Any response to my comparison of the curry line and a watermelon/chitlin comment? That type of reference done in a stereotypical black butler 1930s type voice would be perfectly fine in your eyes too at the end of a song by Mike?

Tumbleweeds from kreen...

He/she also never answered why he would constantly slag off Brian and his newer music while saying, "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"

Sure is odd.

Kreen is a troll, just like Mike’sTheGreatest and all the other apologists unable to join in rational discourse regarding firestorms they start with their inane posts.

I agree with kreen's stance that "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"... that's not a bad thought to have as a general statement. I just don't know how one can make the leap from wanting new music from the guys, to defending the curry comment when it's as cringeworthy as a watermelon/chitlin comment, or perhaps a mimed gay voice. I just want to hear kreen say that all of those things are okay with them if they're fine with Ram Raj as is. Own it. Not sure how there's any wiggle room on this, but I welcome any defenders to try to explain why it's defensible.
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« Reply #862 on: November 28, 2017, 01:20:15 PM »

Mike’s beard move to Canada? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #863 on: November 28, 2017, 01:38:11 PM »

It's pretty miraculous that Mike Love got a record deal in the first place to release an album of new material. Old-timers from the Sixties are usually told by the industry these days, "either rerecord the old hits as duets or make an album where you cover famous songs from other artists". It's obvious the second disc had to be included in order for the company to agree to release the new material, but we can just disregard it and at least we got a whole LP of new material!

It's ok of course to not like the CD but I do wonder: will those who wish the CD didn't even exist be happy when ML and all of the other BBs are dead -- which will be the case in just a few years -- and there can never be ANY new material from any of them, including Mike? I think it's great that there even IS new solo BB material being released; even if it's not grade-A music, it's better than what awaits all of us as fans, which is no new material, ever, when they finally pass away.

I am glad Mike is trying to release new music, I just wish he would avoid Autotune and not be a gigantic hypocrite about the issue. And the curry line is beyond embarrassing.

Any response to my comparison of the curry line and a watermelon/chitlin comment? That type of reference done in a stereotypical black butler 1930s type voice would be perfectly fine in your eyes too at the end of a song by Mike?

Tumbleweeds from kreen...

He/she also never answered why he would constantly slag off Brian and his newer music while saying, "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"

Sure is odd.

Kreen is a troll, just like Mike’sTheGreatest and all the other apologists unable to join in rational discourse regarding firestorms they start with their inane posts.

I agree with kreen's stance that "we should be happy the guys are still around making music!"... that's not a bad thought to have as a general statement. I just don't know how one can make the leap from wanting new music from the guys, to defending the curry comment when it's as cringeworthy as a watermelon/chitlin comment, or perhaps a mimed gay voice. I just want to hear kreen say that all of those things are okay with them if they're fine with Ram Raj as is. Own it. Not sure how there's any wiggle room on this, but I welcome any defenders to try to explain why it's defensible.

Yeah, I agree with his stance on Mike and the guys, which is why I tried to be more positive than usual when reviewing Mike’s album. Just wish there was more consistensy on Kreen’s part when it comes to Brian. Try another board and I’m sure the usual players will be glad to defend this crap.
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« Reply #864 on: November 28, 2017, 05:19:55 PM »

Do Jeff’s vocals at the end of the “Daybreak” choruses remind anyone else of Jimmy Jones’s “Handyman”?

https://youtu.be/ljmFZ6b0g5w?t=1m44s
https://youtu.be/uVyBRdBVCiU?t=45s
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« Reply #865 on: November 28, 2017, 05:23:31 PM »

Do Jeff’s vocals at the end of the “Daybreak” choruses remind anyone else of Jimmy Jones’s “Handyman”?

https://youtu.be/ljmFZ6b0g5w?t=1m44s
https://youtu.be/uVyBRdBVCiU?t=45s

YES!!! You stole my thunder  LOL I was saving that for my UTL review, that was all I had...

Seriously, my mind goes right to, "here is the main thing..."

I've heard James Taylor's version a lot.
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« Reply #866 on: November 28, 2017, 05:23:56 PM »

Mike just tweeted it is on the charts.  37 on the independent chart.
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« Reply #867 on: November 28, 2017, 05:28:49 PM »

Do Jeff’s vocals at the end of the “Daybreak” choruses remind anyone else of Jimmy Jones’s “Handyman”?

https://youtu.be/ljmFZ6b0g5w?t=1m44s
https://youtu.be/uVyBRdBVCiU?t=45s

YES!!! You stole my thunder  LOL I was saving that for my UTL review, that was all I had...

Sorry, B.E.  LOL
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« Reply #868 on: November 28, 2017, 05:39:29 PM »

Mike just tweeted it is on the charts.  37 on the independent chart.

So it is. Billboard has made no effort on the cover though.

https://www.billboard.com/charts/independent-albums
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« Reply #869 on: November 28, 2017, 05:40:34 PM »

Mike just tweeted it is on the charts.  37 on the independent chart.

So it is. Billboard has made no effort on the cover though.

https://www.billboard.com/charts/independent-albums

It's also #2 on the Heatseekers album chart.
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« Reply #870 on: November 28, 2017, 06:27:09 PM »

Mike just tweeted it is on the charts.  37 on the independent chart.

So it is. Billboard has made no effort on the cover though.

https://www.billboard.com/charts/independent-albums

They just went with a classic picture of Mike and Dean.
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« Reply #871 on: November 28, 2017, 10:24:05 PM »

So has anyone here actually bought the album and listened to it yet?  What do you think of it? 
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« Reply #872 on: November 28, 2017, 11:04:01 PM »

So has anyone here actually bought the album and listened to it yet?  What do you think of it? 
I've been listening to tracks on youtube; when I make it up to Seattle in the next couple weeks, I will see if one of the 2 remaining new music shops has it. Then I will sit down and give it a serious listen. But listening on youtube, I have liked what I have heard so far, especially Ambha singing "Warmth of the Sun".
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« Reply #873 on: November 29, 2017, 06:24:58 AM »

So has anyone here actually bought the album and listened to it yet?  What do you think of it? 

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,25517.msg623668.html#msg623668

That is where many of the reviews and discussion of the album starts.

And contrary to another ridiculous thread started by “BubbaFide” where he says people on this board are calling Mike “Satan incarnate” and have a ton of side-banter in our reviews, the reviews are pretty honest and fair...and the evidence is all in the link above.
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« Reply #874 on: November 29, 2017, 06:26:39 AM »

I bought a physical copy.

And I've been meaning to say, when looking through the liner notes there is a quite a bit of guitar playing credit for one Laurence Juber, former guitarist of Wings, most notably for their hit single "Goodnight Tonight" and the album Back to the Egg.

I'm surprised Mike hasn't been harping upon how awesome it is that he and Sir Paul have used the same guitarist.
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