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« on: October 02, 2017, 06:40:31 AM »

This is not a definitive list - Please feel free to add or subtract or otherwise correct.  It's based on Andrew's list but I noticed there are some songs not on his list which I have added.

Chug a Lug
409*
Farmer's Daughter
Shut Down
Noble Surfer
Finders Keepers
Hawaii*
Catch a Wave
Be True to Your School*
I Get Around*
Custom Machine
Keep an Eye on Summer
All Summer Long*
Wendy
Do You Remember?
Drive In
Don't Back Down*
Little Saint Nick*
Santa's Beard
The Man with All the Toys*
Good to my Baby
Don't Hurt My Little Sister
When I Grow Up*
Help Me Rhonda*
Dance Dance Dance*
Kiss Me Baby
She Knows Me Too Well
In the Back of My Mind
The Girl from New York City
Amusement Parks USA
Salt Lake City
California Girls*
Let Him Run Wild
You're So Good to Me
Wouldn't It Be Nice
I Know There's an Answer

* = songs mentioned by Mike Love in pre-lawsuit interview as song he co-wrote but received no credit for

Another song mentioned by Mike Love as a song he didn't receive for credit for was Please Let Me Wonder ("I wrote the verses, not relating to the title") but the song on the 1990 CD and the Pastmasters CD IS credited Wilson-Love!  A mistake on Mike's part?  I dont' have my original vinyl handy to check on the credits there.

Songs mentioned by Mike as co-writes that he did NOT receive credit for:

Merry Christmas Baby - at least not on the 1998 Christmas CD
South Bay Surfer - credited to Brian, Carl and Dennis

Songs Mike claimed and won credit for that had minimal contributions from Mike:

409 - he came up with "she's real fins my 409" and "giddy up giddy up 409"
I Get Around - he came up with "round round get around, I Get Around"
Help Me Rhonda - Mike came up with the first line, "Since she put me down I've been out doin' in my head"
Wouldn't It Be Nice - the infamous "good night baby, sleep tight baby" the sum total of Mike's contribution

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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 07:12:35 AM »

Did Mike get his name added to "Shut Down?" I think that one is still just Brian/Roger Christian. In fact, Mike has (kind of begrudgingly/dismissively) acknowledged that Christian came in to write car lyrics because that wasn't his (Mike's) area of expertise.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 03:33:45 PM »

You are correct sir- I checked the AP SACD and the credit is still Wilson-Christian.  So scratch that off the list.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 04:05:16 PM »

I thought for sure Mike receives credit on California Girls now.
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 05:08:53 PM »

That's on the list which is roughly chronological not alphabetically arranged.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2017, 09:46:13 PM »

Another song mentioned by Mike Love as a song he didn't receive for credit for was Please Let Me Wonder ("I wrote the verses, not relating to the title") but the song on the 1990 CD and the Pastmasters CD IS credited Wilson-Love!  A mistake on Mike's part?  I dont' have my original vinyl handy to check on the credits there


Mike has always been credited for "Please Let Me Wonder".

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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 10:35:32 PM »

The only takeaway here is that both Mike and Andrew have been known to talk out of their asses.
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 01:26:17 AM »

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Help Me Rhonda - Mike came up with the first line, "Since she put me down I've been out doin' in my head"
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Wow, that's pretty impressive.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 07:46:24 AM »

That's on the list which is roughly chronological not alphabetically arranged.

I know California Girls is on the list. But there is a star next to it. Implying he has mentioned it but hasn't received credit. But he has!
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2018, 10:46:27 AM »

The only takeaway here is that both Mike and Andrew have been known to talk out of their asses.

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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2018, 11:09:54 AM »


Songs mentioned by Mike as co-writes that he did NOT receive credit for:


South Bay Surfer - credited to Brian, Carl and Dennis




The 2001 twofer reissues credits "Wilson, Wilson, Jardine".



Since at least the 70s Mike claims credit for "Surfin' USA". He mentioned it a.o. in the Beach Boys Radio Special. IIRC Carl also says so in that special.
In that BBC documentary from ~ 2004 (called "Wouldn't it be nice") the editors cut interviews with Al and Mike respectively in a way that had them talk about the song, then Al says "Well, Mike Love will tell you that he wrote the lyrics" to which they cut to Mike doing exactly that, then they switch back to Al saying that he seriously doubts that is true, since "Mike didn't surf either".
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2018, 11:15:29 AM »

That's on the list which is roughly chronological not alphabetically arranged.

I know California Girls is on the list. But there is a star next to it. Implying he has mentioned it but hasn't received credit. But he has!

The star means that he mentioned it in a pre law suit interview - which is important because the songs he mentions before the lawsuit was even filed are more likely to be indeed co-writes, rather than the songs that were later negotiated in court.  All of the songs in the first list he did receive credit for after the lawsuit.
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