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« on: September 14, 2017, 03:04:08 PM »

Yesterday I met Mike Love at a book signing in Seattle.  Nothing bad happened and nothing bad was said.  I asked him what him songwriting contributions were to the song "She Knows Me Too Well" were.  I knew that he had a credit on that song, but it sounded more like a Brian song.  He told me he wrote all the words.  I can tell if people are lying and he did not look like he was. Whether you believe it of not is up to you.  I also asked him what his contribution to "Leaving this town" was and he said that despite receiving credit on that song, it was a Carl song that he did nothing on.  He later signed a lyric sheet of "That's Not Me" that I printed out. That song is, in my opinion, the best one he sang on.

I am not trying to defend anything Mike did or troll anyone, I just though that my encounter yesterday would be interesting.  I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2017, 05:03:09 PM »

  Unlike some PET SOUNDS cuts, I never tire of "That's Not Me." It resonates strongly over the decades. Wonderful vocals by Mike, yes.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2017, 05:12:18 PM »

He was a total gentleman to me and my girlfriend last year in Cambridge. We chatted for a little bit and he signed some of our stuff, even allowed us pictures with him. He signed my 5 year old's Beach Boys cap on another occasion as well. He's great to the fans. All the sh!t talk about him that happens on a daily basis can stick it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 06:39:29 PM »

That's Not Me is one of my all time favorite Mike leads.  Too bad he hasn't sung it since 1966.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 07:50:46 PM »

He was a total gentleman to me and my girlfriend last year in Cambridge. We chatted for a little bit and he signed some of our stuff, even allowed us pictures with him. He signed my 5 year old's Beach Boys cap on another occasion as well. He's great to the fans. All the sh!t talk about him that happens on a daily basis can stick it.

I think that’s Mike’s strongest positive trait that has been very consistent throughout the years: he is damn good to the fans. Pretty much any interaction I’ve read about, barring one or two stories, Mike seems like the best guy you could meet from this band in terms of his enthusiasm to talk to people. His interactions with the crowd, pretty much always willing to sign an autograph or chat with people who have questions.

All the sh*t talk that happens regarding him has a strong justified reasoning, that being said no one can deny he has most always been really good to the fans.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 08:47:21 PM »

2 things surprise me about leaving this town, the first being that he got a credit on it while doing nothing. Just seems like a strange song to just hand out credits on. The second thing is it being a Carl song, as it sounds exactly like something Blondie and Ricky would come up with.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 11:20:28 PM »

Yesterday I met Mike Love at a book signing in Seattle.  Nothing bad happened

I feel quite sad for you that you felt you needed to begin your post that way. You then go on to be apologetic, and you hope people don't think you're trolling.

I don't want to speak for everyone on here, but I would think most of us are always happy to read something positive about Mike, despite everything.

The same rules of free speech apply to you as well you know. Be proud. You met a Beach Boy!
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2017, 01:42:04 AM »

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I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.

Who's to say he's not? It  just probably isn't his thing.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2017, 05:13:59 AM »

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I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.

Who's to say he's not? It  just probably isn't his thing.

I think Brian did do a couple last year when the book was initially released. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 05:15:53 AM »

Yesterday I met Mike Love at a book signing in Seattle.  Nothing bad happened and nothing bad was said.  I asked him what him songwriting contributions were to the song "She Knows Me Too Well" were.  I knew that he had a credit on that song, but it sounded more like a Brian song.  He told me he wrote all the words.  I can tell if people are lying and he did not look like he was. Whether you believe it of not is up to you.  I also asked him what his contribution to "Leaving this town" was and he said that despite receiving credit on that song, it was a Carl song that he did nothing on.  He later signed a lyric sheet of "That's Not Me" that I printed out. That song is, in my opinion, the best one he sang on.

I am not trying to defend anything Mike did or troll anyone, I just though that my encounter yesterday would be interesting.  I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.

Mike did a signing last year, but it was in DC on a Wed, so I skipped it.  Now, I really regret it. 

Sure, I'd have to fight traffic, but how often do you get a chance to meet a Beach Boy without sacrificing a car payment and utility bill payment? 
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 07:32:38 AM »

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I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.

Who's to say he's not? It  just probably isn't his thing.

I think Brian did do a couple last year when the book was initially released. 

I think Brian would be surprised to hear he doesn't do book signings since he is schedule to do one next month:

Brian Wilson, founder of The Beach Boys, signing copies of I Am Brian Wilson
10/19/17 7:00 PM at Barnes & Noble – Grove Drive. Los Angeles, CA

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2017, 08:21:37 AM »

Yesterday I met Mike Love at a book signing in Seattle.  Nothing bad happened and nothing bad was said.  I asked him what him songwriting contributions were to the song "She Knows Me Too Well" were.  I knew that he had a credit on that song, but it sounded more like a Brian song.  He told me he wrote all the words.  I can tell if people are lying and he did not look like he was. Whether you believe it of not is up to you.  I also asked him what his contribution to "Leaving this town" was and he said that despite receiving credit on that song, it was a Carl song that he did nothing on.  He later signed a lyric sheet of "That's Not Me" that I printed out. That song is, in my opinion, the best one he sang on.

I am not trying to defend anything Mike did or troll anyone, I just though that my encounter yesterday would be interesting.  I wish that Brian was well enough to go to book signings and answer questions.

I'm glad your encounter was a good time. This is not the first time, though, that we've had a "I met Mike after a show/at a book signing and he wasn't an a-hole" sort of story/post, and I'm not sure why there is a need to imply that anybody would have assumed otherwise.

Even harsh critics of Mike have *always* acknowledged that all of his public interactions with fans go smoothly and that he is good with fans. While I've heard some disappointing semi-"behind the scenes" stories, it's clear that Mike is uniformly good with fans in any sort of public settings (backstage/after a show, book signings, etc.).

The problems people have with Mike have to do with his statements/actions pertaining to the band and things of that nature.

Also, as others have pointed out, Brian has done book signings quite recently and has more scheduled.
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 08:24:41 AM »

Considering the zeal with which Mike pursued his "setting the record straight" songwriting lawsuit in the mid 90s, I'm curious why he hasn't contacted the publisher/copyright holders of "Leaving this Town" and "set the record straight" and volunteered to have his name removed from the credits.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 08:29:43 AM »

He was a total gentleman to me and my girlfriend last year in Cambridge. We chatted for a little bit and he signed some of our stuff, even allowed us pictures with him. He signed my 5 year old's Beach Boys cap on another occasion as well. He's great to the fans. All the sh!t talk about him that happens on a daily basis can stick it.

Nobody sh*t talks Mike concerning his interactions with fans. I've never once seen even an ardent Mike critic advise a fan that they shouldn't try to meet Mike because he might be a total dick or something. Indeed, I've seen some harsh Mike critics disappointingly wooed by his celebrity/charms. "He's a nice charming guy, so I'm going to forget the litany of awful things he has said about Brian and his family, or that Al Jardine got sh*t-canned, etc, etc."

Ironically, and no offense and I hope he makes a speedy recovery, but it's Bruce more than any member of the band past or present who is really the only band member I can think of where you might well have a truly awful/awkward/confrontational experience meeting him before/after a show or in any other setting.
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 08:32:48 AM »

Considering the zeal with which Mike pursued his "setting the record straight" songwriting lawsuit in the mid 90s, I'm curious why he hasn't contacted the publisher/copyright holders of "Leaving this Town" and "set the record straight" and volunteered to have his name removed from the credits.

I thought that song was credited to Blondie, Ricky, and Carl. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2017, 08:43:53 AM »

Yeah, where are folks getting the idea that Mike has a writing credit on 'Leaving This Town'?
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 09:01:50 AM »

Yeah, where are folks getting the idea that Mike has a writing credit on 'Leaving This Town'?



Also, the inner sleeve of the "Holland" album has the odd credit for the song of "Composers and Lyricists: Ricky Fataar, Carl Wilson & Blondie Chaplin. Additional lyrics by Mike Love":



Also, I don't have the 2000 CD liner notes in front of me, but this website that purports to have them transcribed shows Mike credited on the song:

http://albumlinernotes.com/CATP___Holland.html
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 09:03:42 AM »

Yeah, where are folks getting the idea that Mike has a writing credit on 'Leaving This Town'?



Also, the inner sleeve of the "Holland" album has the odd credit for the song of "Composers and Lyricists: Ricky Fataar, Carl Wilson & Blondie Chaplin. Additional lyrics by Mike Love":



Also, I don't have the 2000 CD liner notes in front of me, but this website that purports to have them transcribed shows Mike credited on the song:

http://albumlinernotes.com/CATP___Holland.html

I'll have to look at the 2000 CD that I have, but I don't recall seeing Mike's name on it. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2017, 09:04:07 AM »

My guess is that Mike probably *did* contribute some additional lyrics and just doesn't remember it. I believe he has been asked about his work on some stuff from this era and for a variety of reasons, he doesn't usually have much to say or much recollection.
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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2017, 09:05:12 AM »

The original circa 1990 Caribou/Epic CD also lists Mike in the credits:

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 09:08:47 AM »

Insert from 1990 CD (probably the European version) also shows Mike's name:

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 09:14:01 AM »

Mike's name was also on "In Concert":

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2017, 09:18:31 AM »

Also, while I'm having trouble pulling metadata from various digital versions of the song like iTunes or Amazon, the currently uploaded version of "Leaving This Town" provided to YouTube by Capitol/UMe shows Mike in the songwriting credits:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6g4ANzru-U
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2017, 09:19:11 AM »

Has anyone asked Mike about his contributions to "We Got Love?"  I presume lyrics but that's another Blondie/Ricky song.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2017, 09:21:08 AM »

Has anyone asked Mike about his contributions to "We Got Love?"  I presume lyrics but that's another Blondie/Ricky song.

I have a vague recollection that Mike was asked about the song in an interview in the last few years (perhaps the "Holland" themed issue of ESQ?) and he didn't have any specific recollection of what he added. I don't think he claimed he didn't contribute. Rather, he just didn't have any specific recollections on that one.
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