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« on: August 19, 2017, 11:27:12 PM »

www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/rapist-sentenced-to-five-years-in-sex-assault-at-tulsa/article_fb23ce1e-649c-5345-aa43-3266bcdaab25.html
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 09:51:03 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2017, 01:07:09 PM »

Surprised there has not been more of a reaction to this on smiley, negative or positive.
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2017, 03:51:31 AM »

He's marked for life, whether he gets a modified sentence or not.

Much more to the point, and heartbreakingly so, is that his victim is marked for life.

Concurrent sentences----is that some kind of a sick joke?
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2017, 07:58:34 AM »

The Ole' second chance comes into play. Should we be asking ourselves this question?  Time stands still, second chance , is it a win?  The lady doesn't get a second chance.  Guess here lies the problem.
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2017, 05:44:11 PM »

Fourteen months for rape?! That's ridiculous.
I would almost put rape right up there with murder. The rapist is taking away the victim's life, in a sense. I don't care if he always seemed like a "good guy." He did a horrible thing.
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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2017, 12:04:58 AM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2017, 12:45:01 AM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?
100% Agreed. I think, after he finished the sentence he deserved, he should be forgiven socially. He can't really be blamed for what he's done after that, because that'll make it hard for him to live. That situation would possibly lead him to committing another crime or suicide or something harmful to the society.

I'm a believer of human rights. Thus, I believe that those who once infringed other's human rights should be given rights as equally as those who doesn't commit crime after he's done with punishment. It'd be another story for serial or cruel murderers, though.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2017, 05:32:52 AM »

Many people get "extremely drunk" yet they've got brains & self-control to not do it. Let's not talk some rubbish & make excuses. It's very easy to analyze this situation like that, sitting in safety in nice chairs. I think you 2 missed what Amy B. said - Scott didn't serve his sentence fully - whish is short anyway - & now he's free after "good behavior" (btw, I gathered the crime law system is much severe in the U.S., didn't know there's such thing as "good behavior" too). That's what she found very unfair. There's some truth to what Watamushi said though, about giving back the rights or they'd do sth. bad again but it doesn't apply to Scott's case (see the Amy bit).
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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2017, 05:40:57 AM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?

Your line of argument is that this could have happened to anyone... That any man who gets extremely drunk could be excused for committing rape, that any man (or woman) is capable of rape if extremely drunk. Is that really true? I've heard the argument that what alcohol really does is to reveal a person's basest personality. My mother was an alcoholic. When she was drunk, she was verbally abusive to me. She was a different person when sober. Did I think the abuse was the alcohol talking, or her talking? It was her. It was her issues coming out into the forefront. If someone committed murder while drunk, they still committed murder, didn't they?

I do believe in human rights, but what about the victim's right not to be violated? And why is it that armed robbers and drug dealers (and drug users, even) get years in prison, while a rapist can get out after 14 months?

I don't even know what the answer is. And I get that ideally, he needs to be rehabilitated and able to rejoin society. But I know that if Scott were re-hired to Brian's band, I would have a serious problem with it. You can't just do what he did, spend 14 months in prison, and be right back where you were. Maybe he shouldn't go on the road, with all the temptations out there. I just don't know. At the very least, he needs to go to counseling, if he hasn't already. A rapist (even a drunk one) has issues with control, to say the least.
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2017, 07:26:13 AM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?

Your line of argument is that this could have happened to anyone... That any man who gets extremely drunk could be excused for committing rape, that any man (or woman) is capable of rape if extremely drunk. Is that really true? I've heard the argument that what alcohol really does is to reveal a person's basest personality. My mother was an alcoholic. When she was drunk, she was verbally abusive to me. She was a different person when sober. Did I think the abuse was the alcohol talking, or her talking? It was her. It was her issues coming out into the forefront. If someone committed murder while drunk, they still committed murder, didn't they?

I do believe in human rights, but what about the victim's right not to be violated? And why is it that armed robbers and drug dealers (and drug users, even) get years in prison, while a rapist can get out after 14 months?

I don't even know what the answer is. And I get that ideally, he needs to be rehabilitated and able to rejoin society. But I know that if Scott were re-hired to Brian's band, I would have a serious problem with it. You can't just do what he did, spend 14 months in prison, and be right back where you were. Maybe he shouldn't go on the road, with all the temptations out there. I just don't know. At the very least, he needs to go to counseling, if he hasn't already. A rapist (even a drunk one) has issues with control, to say the least.

Well said. 

I have to say that it would take a lot for me to defiantly say "I won't pay money to see Artist X because of......" whatever, but if (and I really don't believe it would ever happen), Scott were to be welcomed back into Brian's band, I'd probably not be buying any tickets to further shows. 
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2017, 08:20:22 AM »

Yes, I said basically the same thing, just worded differently but Amy B. added some points.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2017, 08:34:33 AM »

Yes, I said basically the same thing, just worded differently but Amy B. added some points.

Yeah, we're all in agreement. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2017, 10:35:45 AM »

I don't care how drunk he was.  I've been blackout drunk (although I haven't had a drop of drink now in 3 years ) and have consumed a vast array of chemicals at various times in my life, and NOT ONCE would I have ever done something like this.

That's all I'm going to say.
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2017, 05:12:56 PM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?

Your line of argument is that this could have happened to anyone... That any man who gets extremely drunk could be excused for committing rape, that any man (or woman) is capable of rape if extremely drunk. Is that really true? I've heard the argument that what alcohol really does is to reveal a person's basest personality. My mother was an alcoholic. When she was drunk, she was verbally abusive to me. She was a different person when sober. Did I think the abuse was the alcohol talking, or her talking? It was her. It was her issues coming out into the forefront. If someone committed murder while drunk, they still committed murder, didn't they?

I do believe in human rights, but what about the victim's right not to be violated? And why is it that armed robbers and drug dealers (and drug users, even) get years in prison, while a rapist can get out after 14 months?

I don't even know what the answer is. And I get that ideally, he needs to be rehabilitated and able to rejoin society. But I know that if Scott were re-hired to Brian's band, I would have a serious problem with it. You can't just do what he did, spend 14 months in prison, and be right back where you were. Maybe he shouldn't go on the road, with all the temptations out there. I just don't know. At the very least, he needs to go to counseling, if he hasn't already. A rapist (even a drunk one) has issues with control, to say the least.
I'm not saying anything remotely close to any of what you said. The hypothetical question is, can you forever condemn a person for the rest of their life for something that they do in a "blackout"(i.e. in such a condition where they wake up and have no idea what just happened). I don't deny that there was a rape. I just think it's an interesting question. If somebody is in an unconscious state, and may possibly have no control of what they are doing, can we forever think of said person as an evil bastard?
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2017, 05:22:11 PM »

I don't care how drunk he was.  I've been blackout drunk (although I haven't had a drop of drink now in 3 years ) and have consumed a vast array of chemicals at various times in my life, and NOT ONCE would I have ever done something like this.

That's all I'm going to say.
The whole point of being in a blackout is being in such a state that once you wake up, you have no idea what has happened. I think it's hard for somebody to say they would *never* do something in a black out. I'll give you an example. Ozzy Osbourne literally tried to murder his wife in a blackout. He grabbed her by the throat and wouldn't let go. He said woke up in jail. Yet, millions of people love him and almost look at him as a God who invented heavy metal.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2017, 01:16:19 PM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?
100% Agreed. I think, after he finished the sentence he deserved, he should be forgiven socially. He can't really be blamed for what he's done after that, because that'll make it hard for him to live. That situation would possibly lead him to committing another crime or suicide or something harmful to the society.

I'm a believer of human rights. Thus, I believe that those who once infringed other's human rights should be given rights as equally as those who doesn't commit crime after he's done with punishment. It'd be another story for serial or cruel murderers, though.



Glad to see this. A while back I claimed that mental illness and alcoholism can lead to some fu**ed up sh*t. I said something along the lines of imagining the possibility that brian could even have done something like this and everyone flipped out. This is a better way of wording my point. It's horrible, but don't condemn the person for life.

Just to reiterate: i don't believe he ever had, I just point to him as a person with mental issues who could hypothetically be in a situation like this
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2017, 02:39:55 PM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?
100% Agreed. I think, after he finished the sentence he deserved, he should be forgiven socially. He can't really be blamed for what he's done after that, because that'll make it hard for him to live. That situation would possibly lead him to committing another crime or suicide or something harmful to the society.

I'm a believer of human rights. Thus, I believe that those who once infringed other's human rights should be given rights as equally as those who doesn't commit crime after he's done with punishment. It'd be another story for serial or cruel murderers, though.



Glad to see this. A while back I claimed that mental illness and alcoholism can lead to some fu**ed up sh*t. I said something along the lines of imagining the possibility that brian could even have done something like this and everyone flipped out. This is a better way of wording my point. It's horrible, but don't condemn the person for life.

Just to reiterate: i don't believe he ever had, I just point to him as a person with mental issues who could hypothetically be in a situation like this
I remember that incident well. I understood your point. Hell, Brian tried to give his Damn daughter heroin. It's not quite the same thing, but it's an example of somebody becoming a total polar opposite of themselves when in an altered state.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2017, 12:32:48 PM »

This is probably going to stir up some angry posts, but I'll say it anyway. Keep in mind that I haven't seen the security footage. Supposedly Scott was extremely drunk at the time of the rape. Hypothetically, can we forever condemn a man for his actions during what may have been a "blackout drunk"? Something that he would have absolutely no memory of, and something that he wouldn't have done in a million years, had he been "mentally conscious"(hypothetically speaking)? I don't deny that it was rape, and the girl in question is definitely scarred for life. But can we give up on him as a low down, evil rapist and preditor?
100% Agreed. I think, after he finished the sentence he deserved, he should be forgiven socially. He can't really be blamed for what he's done after that, because that'll make it hard for him to live. That situation would possibly lead him to committing another crime or suicide or something harmful to the society.

I'm a believer of human rights. Thus, I believe that those who once infringed other's human rights should be given rights as equally as those who doesn't commit crime after he's done with punishment. It'd be another story for serial or cruel murderers, though.



Glad to see this. A while back I claimed that mental illness and alcoholism can lead to some fu**ed up sh*t. I said something along the lines of imagining the possibility that brian could even have done something like this and everyone flipped out. This is a better way of wording my point. It's horrible, but don't condemn the person for life.

Just to reiterate: i don't believe he ever had, I just point to him as a person with mental issues who could hypothetically be in a situation like this
I remember that incident well. I understood your point. Hell, Brian tried to give his Damn daughter heroin. It's not quite the same thing, but it's an example of somebody becoming a total polar opposite of themselves when in an altered state.
I believe in rehabilitating prisoners rather than simply punishing them, but this line of reasoning is ridiculous and runs dangerously close to rationalizing/justifying rape. Bennett is not the victim here in any way, shape, or form, and what he did is absolutely disgusting beyond words, no matter how drunk or otherwise intoxicated he was. He is responsible for his actions, yet he’s being let off with a minimal sentence for destroying a young woman’s life.

To bring others like Brian into it and speculate about what they could have done in a similar situation is just insane and disgusting. Sort of like tacitly saying “we could all be rapists if we were high/drunk enough...” What is the point of these statements other than to justify S.B.’s rape of an unconscious woman?
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2017, 06:40:47 AM »

Somehow missed this. Not surprised he's getting released early. Rape is not treated seriously in this country.
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