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Author Topic: Did Al Jardine die in 1965 only to be replaced by a lookalike ?  (Read 4924 times)
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« on: August 11, 2017, 03:35:50 AM »

I only ask 'cos he's missing from the Summer Days album cover, and none of them are wearing shoes. Then there's the goat feeding on the Pet Sounds cover. Surely that means something.  Also, in recent pictures he looks nothing like he did in 65. Surely I'm not the only one who has noticed these discrepancies. 

There's some clues in the lyrics too.

'Since she put me down'

Yeah, down in the ground!

The la la la backing vocals on You're So Good To Me

La is Al backwards!

In Till I Die Brian is talking about feeling really small

Al was quite small

Till I Die is about dying!

To me this is cut and dried. Can anyone else spot any clues? And any details ad to how Al actually died?



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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 03:53:36 AM »

It's also entirely possible Al died in 1963. Look at the first three album covers. That first lookalike looks NOTHING like Al. And again, note the lack of shoes.

Are we supposed to buy the whole dental school rubbish.

Isnt 'going to dental school' a euphemism for dying?

Well, it is now.

And even more spooky is the story of Brian driving Al around in 66 trying to convince him to take LSD.

FACT, LSD makes you hallucinate.

Brian hallucinated Al.

Cos Al was dead

FACT
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 05:13:26 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 08:01:01 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 08:06:18 AM »

2 the OP & Silken: Why you laugh? Don't you like Al? This whole making fun of Al isn't cool.

I think it's more poking a little fun at a Beach Boys version of the (in)famous "Paul McCartney is Dead" hoax.
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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 08:30:12 AM »

I only ask 'cos he's missing from the Summer Days album cover, and none of them are wearing shoes. Then there's the goat feeding on the Pet Sounds cover. Surely that means something.  Also, in recent pictures he looks nothing like he did in 65. Surely I'm not the only one who has noticed these discrepancies. 

There's some clues in the lyrics too.

'Since she put me down'

Yeah, down in the ground!

The la la la backing vocals on You're So Good To Me

La is Al backwards!

In Till I Die Brian is talking about feeling really small

Al was quite small

Till I Die is about dying!

To me this is cut and dried. Can anyone else spot any clues? And any details ad to how Al actually died?





On Isn't It Time from TWGMTR, "Al" sings

"Every time I think of you, all of those things we used to do"

But, so as not to be revealed, the lyric was changed when The Beach Boys hit to road to "all of those things we like to do"
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2017, 09:07:58 AM »

States Al in "Don't Fight the Sea":

"The fog's closing in over me, over me
My blood's running cold, 'cause my life is on hold"

On HOLD? Or on permanent STOP? I will say no more.
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« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2017, 09:59:04 AM »

"It's so sad to watch a sweet thing die." --Caroline, No

Who was sweet? Al.
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2017, 10:04:48 AM »

Lady Lynda

"Won't you come here and lie lady Lynda with me
We can lie in the green canyon meadows"

Or maybe, lie in a cemetery in the meadows. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2017, 10:59:38 AM »

On From There To Back Again Al sings "On this summer's day, there's nowhere else I'd rather be". Where would he like to be? Maybe back on earth with his fellow Beach Boy friends, instead of being stuck in heaven?
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2017, 04:55:27 PM »

"I've been laying on my back, like a freight train off a track"

Does this seem to indicate Al was hit by a train while laying on the railroad tracks? Was he tied up? Inebriated? Too short to climb back up on the platform?
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2017, 08:23:44 PM »

Yes, sit is clear to me Al was hit by a train.

Who ran the iron horse?

-Over Al, that is.

Wouldn't it be nice if we were older?

-sit would but alas, Al died young.

That spooky train sound at the end of Caroline, No... a DEAD giveaway.

Surf's Up is clearly a description of Al's funeral. Laughs come hard etc...

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 02:07:09 AM »

I'm liking this train idea....

Well, not liking it, it's terribly sad.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 02:44:45 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 03:04:11 AM »

2 the OP & Silken: Why you laugh? Don't you like Al? This whole making fun of Al isn't cool.

I think it's more poking a little fun at a Beach Boys version of the (in)famous "Paul McCartney is Dead" hoax.
Why make Al the target of these tasteless jokes? Roll Eyes Why not Bruce? He's juuust replacement, obviously inferior BB than everybody else - by behavior, vocals etc. Make fun of the squarest replacement BB. Al's the 2nd best vocalist in the band, great-looking, real class act yet you laugh at him? Do any of you like &/ or respect him? Waiting for everybody who contributed here, including the OP & Silken, to answer this easy question.

Bruce is juuust replacement----exactly! That's why it's not about him. Read what KDS posted (in bold), several times if necessary.

Agreed, it's fairly over-the-top humour, hahaha, but Al's not the butt of it. It's the crazy "Paul is dead" situation transposed into Beach Boy Land.

Some very creative posts in there. Credit where credit's due, don't you think? Cool Guy
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2017, 09:41:04 AM »

Brilliant thread!
I don't know about the train theory, but perhaps there is a tie in to Murry. He had that personality where he 'would explode into a room' and maybe was a bit of a runaway freight train. Murry was often physical with his sons and maybe it spilled over one heated night and he turned on Al. As Al was much slighter than his sons, Murry's force ended in tragedy. It had to be covered up, too much was at stake. Brian was devastated. Murry never forgave himself, and everytime he saw Al's replacement, David, he would be extra hard on him.

We'll have to keep uncovering the clues. Somewhere there is surely lyrics, that when played backwards, have the message 'I buried Al"

The Light Album (LA) LA is AL backwards.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2017, 10:34:26 AM »

Brilliant thread!
I don't know about the train theory, but perhaps there is a tie in to Murry. He had that personality where he 'would explode into a room' and maybe was a bit of a runaway freight train.

And what was one of Al's signature live songs? That's right - "Runaway".

Jesus Christ, the pieces of the puzzle are really coming together...
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2017, 12:27:34 PM »

Someone already mentioned it, but wow....

Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2017, 12:33:10 PM »

2 the OP & Silken: Why you laugh? Don't you like Al? This whole making fun of Al isn't cool.

I think it's more poking a little fun at a Beach Boys version of the (in)famous "Paul McCartney is Dead" hoax.
Why make Al the target of these tasteless jokes? Roll Eyes Why not Bruce? He's juuust replacement, obviously inferior BB than everybody else - by behavior, vocals etc. Make fun of the squarest replacement BB. Al's the 2nd best vocalist in the band, great-looking, real class act yet you laugh at him? Do any of you like &/ or respect him? Waiting for everybody who contributed here, including the OP & Silken, to answer this easy question.

You remind me of Sheldon Cooper. I love and respect Al. This is just humor. Read KDS's, JK's and Hickory Violet Part IV's replies, maybe you'll understand why we find this thread funny.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2017, 04:08:37 PM »

Also Murray Wilson faked his death too...
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2017, 12:21:08 AM »

Do You Like Worms was clearly written for Al. Brian and VDP pondering how Al likes them worms eating his corpse six feet underground... Grotesk, but hey, that's art.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2017, 02:07:24 AM »

Do You Like Worms was clearly written for Al. Brian and VDP pondering how Al likes them worms eating his corpse six feet underground... Grotesk, but hey, that's art.

"Our Prayer" is really a prayer for his eternal soul. Macca is now known as "Faul" by the conspiracy theorists, and the replacement Al has been dubbed "Sal" by some, after Sal Valentino of the Beau Brummels, for obscure, unexplained reasons.
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2017, 02:36:39 PM »

This explains why Mike wouldn't allow Sal Jardine to use the Beach Boys name!

- Al was buried in a cornfield (or cotton field) inwhich crows cried to uncover after being run over by a train. Killed by the mysterious man who ran the iron horse. Also referenced in "like a free train off a track.

- The imposter's name is Pete as exposed in the song Take a Load Off Your Feet sung by Al.

- David Marks real reason for quitting was because he refused to work with Pete at the time.

- Sail On Sailor is in reference to the Beach Boys sailing on without Al on Summer Days/Nights over

- Winds of Change/Santa Anna Winds is in reference to Al's  spirit influencing Pete

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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2017, 07:26:02 AM »

I think Al kicked it in the early 1970s. Because the guy who brilliantly produced Loop de Loop and (unless it's Brian, there are different credits) Susie Cincinnati is not the same guy who co-produced MIU.
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