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Just found this article in the newsfeed, chock full of errors:
http://www.montrosepress.com/national/entertainment/the-beach-boys-queen-and-foo-fighters-version-of-holy/article_4b94fcfc-2663-524e-a06b-edb595fade24.html
THE BEACH BOYS, QUEEN AND FOO FIGHTERS' VERSION OF "HOLY MAN" BARRED FROM RELEASE
By Celebretainment
Aug. 8, 2017
A reworked Beach Boys song featuring members of Queen and Foo Fighters has been blocked from being released following a legal dispute.
The supergroup have been working on updating 'Holy Man', which was co-written by late Beach Boys member Dennis Wilson and his lead singer brother Brian, 75.
Dennis' co-writer Stephen Kalinich is the only person who was able to hear the song in its original form and he claims he hasn't had access to it for more than three decades.
The 'Little Bird' drummer tragically drowned at Marina Del Rey in 1983, and the track has been stored away in a vault ever since.
The original music was created by the 'Good Vibrations' hitmakers in 1974, and the rough tape was sent to Queen's guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor and the US rockers.
A source said: "The song is in a vault and nobody can do anything about it.
"It's such a shame as there will clearly be a huge demand for it."
Dennis's co-writer Stephen says it is "such a shame" that no one will be able to get their ears on the "six-minute masterpiece" because of the law.
He told The Sun newspaper: "It's over six minutes long and it's a masterpiece, but we've never been able to release it because we can't get the legalities worked out. Such a shame.
"People hear it and, honest to God, it brings tears to their eyes."
Foo Fighters' drummer Taylor Hawkins recorded vocals on their version and Stephen says he sounded just like Dennis with "the same gravelly, whisky voice".
He added: "Taylor sent the track to Brian May and he and Roger Taylor fell in love with it. They spent weeks fooling around with it, putting on vocals and some incredible percussive things."
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Oops! Thanks, Em. :=)
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Seems to stem from The Sun seriously mangling a mini piece in Uncut Magazine and 'borrowed' by a bunch of other sites
This one make it sound like no version of Holy Man's ever been released and claims it was co-written by Brian
http://www.radiox.co.uk/artists/foo-fighters/news/beach-boys-song-foo-fighters-queen-blocked-release/#mbDgcKcU6jV7RHLc.97
Transcription of Uncut's article -
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/uncut/20170901/283377651998959
The Sun's article
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/4192795/beach-boys-queen-foo-fighter-song-holy-man-blocked/
"HOLY WAR Beach Boys, Queen and Foo Fighters supergroup track Holy Man blocked from release after huge legal row
The six minute song is said to have a whiff of Bohemian Rhapsody about it but is currently banned from seeing the light of day
From Dan Wootton's Bizarre Column
7th August 2017, 9:00 pm Updated: 9th August 2017, 12:30 am
A COLLABORATION between THE BEACH BOYS, QUEEN and FOO FIGHTERS is the stuff of dreams.
But incredibly a track does exist that fuses together music’s ultimate supergroup.
Queen's Brian May was part of the supergroup track which is involved in a huge legal row over its release
A six-minute version of Holy Man, written by the late Beach Boys singer and drummer DENNIS WILSON, is locked in a vault having been worked on by members of Queen and the Foos.
A huge legal dispute has blocked its release, meaning it’s unlikely — at present — fans of three of the biggest bands in history will ever hear it.
A source said: “The song is in a vault and nobody can do anything about it.
“It’s such a shame as there will clearly be a huge demand for it.”
After its original recording by the Beach Boys in 1974, nine years before Dennis tragically drowned off California, the unfinished tapes of the track has been passed to both Queen and the Foos and according to industry experts, the song has more than a whiff of Bohemian Rhapsody about it.
Dennis’s co-writer Stephen Kalinich is one of a lucky few who’ve heard it and describes the track as “a masterpiece”.
He said: “It’s over six minutes long and it’s a masterpiece, but we’ve never been able to release it because we can’t get the legalities worked out. Such a shame.
“People hear it and, honest to God, it brings tears to their eyes.”
Stephen, a poet and lyricist, said the song got “put on the shelf and I never heard it again for 31 years” after the Beach Boys tried to finish it.
Foo Fighters drummer TAYLOR HAWKINS added his vocals, which Stephen described as “like Dennis, the same gravelly, whisky voice”.
He added: “Taylor sent the track to BRIAN MAY and he and ROGER TAYLOR fell in love with it. They spent weeks fooling around with it, putting on vocals and some incredible percussive things.”
The closest the song has ever been to being released was when a film about Dennis, brother of lead singer BRIAN, was in the works, but the project was canned and the film’s director was denied the opportunity to seal the rights to his back catalogue.
Hopefully one day it will see the light of day.
Foo Fighter's Taylor Hawkins (second from left; pictured with Dave Grohl, Chris Shiflett and Nate Mendel) added his vocals to the track
Beach Boys' Dennis Wilson helped to write the track"
edit: lol at the photos The Sun's used - two of The Foo Fighters & Dennis look like they're thinking 'seriously? you got paid for writing this crap?'
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brief mention of internet coverage in the latest Endless Summer Quarterly (fall 2017)- repeats the claims that Holy Man was co-written by Brian.
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It's funny - "Holy Man" is nothing special yet beats many tracks in POB. Btw, could Kalinich be the least interesting BBs collaborator? I would say yes.
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Am I missing something here? It never says WHO is blocking the release. Im confused.
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on September 12, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
It's funny - "Holy Man" is nothing special yet beats many tracks in POB. Btw, could Kalinich be the least interesting BBs collaborator? I would say yes.
This post is bordering on trolldom.
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Quote from: Dove Nested Towers on September 12, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on September 12, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
It's funny - "Holy Man" is nothing special yet beats many tracks in POB. Btw, could Kalinich be the least interesting BBs collaborator? I would say yes.
This post is bordering on trolldom.
As much as it pains me to say so, I mostly agree with RRA1 and disagree with you entirely. I agree that Holy Man is nothing special (though I'm not sure about the POB part), and consider Kalinich's lyrics pretty bad on the whole.
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Quote from: Dove Nested Towers on September 12, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
This post is bordering on trolldom.
No, I really meant it.
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Are you sure this song is not getting mixed up with something else. Brian and Dennis did not collaborate but on Thankful Are We For Little Children it says that's written by Brian Dennis and Kalinich
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Quote from: the captain on September 12, 2017, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Dove Nested Towers on September 12, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on September 12, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
It's funny - "Holy Man" is nothing special yet beats many tracks in POB. Btw, could Kalinich be the least interesting BBs collaborator? I would say yes.
This post is bordering on trolldom.
As much as it pains me to say so, I mostly agree with RRA1 and disagree with you entirely. I agree that Holy Man is nothing special (though I'm not sure about the POB part), and consider Kalinich's lyrics pretty bad on the whole.
Kalinich's lyrics weren't used for the released version of "Holy Man" - reportedly, he had tried to write lyrics for the tune back in the '70s, but never finished. Gregg Jakobson's lyrics were used for the released version, after being re-written by Taylor Hawkins.
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Thanks for that info.
Technically it doesn't change my actual points or arguments. But I won't belabor the point, lest I'm seen as pedantic... which, well, I learned my lesson.
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Quote from: the captain on September 12, 2017, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Dove Nested Towers on September 12, 2017, 11:57:20 AM
Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on September 12, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
It's funny - "Holy Man" is nothing special yet beats many tracks in POB. Btw, could Kalinich be the least interesting BBs collaborator? I would say yes.
This post is bordering on trolldom.
As much as it pains me to say so, I mostly agree with RRA1 and disagree with you entirely. I agree that Holy Man is nothing special (though I'm not sure about the POB part), and consider Kalinich's lyrics pretty bad on the whole.
Holy Man may not be the most complex track in the world but its vibe is fantastic. Kalinich's lyrics were cliched but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts when combined with Dennis's music (Little Bird, Be Still) or Brian's (California Feeling).
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Quote from: timbnash68 on September 12, 2017, 07:22:25 AM
Am I missing something here? It never says WHO is blocking the release. Im confused.
the plot thickens - found another radio station news page claiming they've spoken to Gregg Jakobson & Roger Taylor from Queen with what appears to be new interview quotes (pos broadcast on the station)
- page is no longer live so could be made up/fake news
Internet archive link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170815135528/http://www.kgmo.com/news/dennis-wilson-queen-teamup-languishing-in-the-vaults/
"Amazingly, due to behind the scenes politics, a third version featuring contributions by Queen’s Brian May and Roger Taylor remains on the shelf, with insiders telling us that May refused to approve a remix made by Wilson’s studio team."
"When we last caught up with “Holy Man” co-writer and producer Gregg Jakobson, he told us that the Queen version will likely be released at some point: [“Taylor was so excited, he said, ‘Let’s send it to London. Let’s send it to Brian May and Roger Taylor — y’know, Queen. They’ll love this, man!’ So we sent it over there, and sure enough they did love it. They kept it for six weeks and they played with it and added background vocals, lead guitar, percussion — but they kept it so long that it didn’t get to go on the album. So now we don’t know quite what to do with it. Everybody’s heard about it, it’s kind of becoming a legendary thing, and it’s six minutes long and it’s just beautiful — we’re thinking about an exclusive iTunes release.”] SOUNDCUE (:27 OC: . . . exclusive iTunes release)
Roger Taylor told us not too long ago, that he honestly wants to see the Dennis Wilson / Queen track see the light of day: [“Yeah, that should come out. That was a great, I thought that was a really great piece of music, actually. Taylor and I are both fans of Dennis. I loved that album (Pacific Ocean Blue) — I play that all the time in the car. That’s a fantastic album. Got a little soul, that guy. I wasn’t even aware that Brian was holding it up. I think he might be mortified to find out the fact that he was holding up the release. It’s a good piece of music. It should not be held up, y’know?”] SOUNDCUE (:23 OC: . . . held up, y’know)"
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