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« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2017, 10:44:37 AM »

Just an album of officially "unreleased" tracks would have been more worthwhile than this release.
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« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2017, 10:46:24 AM »

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« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2017, 10:51:27 AM »

Just an album of officially "unreleased" tracks would have been more worthwhile than this release.

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It is interesting that the long teased Mike Love album seems to be nowhere close to release even after all this time, yet Brian's getting sh*t talked for putting out what looks like will be a pretty decent showing a lot of his best solo career material
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« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2017, 10:56:03 AM »

Exactly, a concise collection of BW music will do wonders for his solo catalog to gain new fans!
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« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2017, 10:57:03 AM »

No  really just wish they had put out something that was mostly unreleased tracks.  Would you not find that more desirable?
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« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2017, 11:27:02 AM »

No  really just wish they had put out something that was mostly unreleased tracks.  Would you not find that more desirable?

56 years into this band and people still don't get the concept behind a "Best of" compilation? They're meant for casual fans/consumers, and as just an extra piece of promotion for the artist.

Of course fans want unreleased stuff, and complaining about the lack of more archival releases for BW and the BBs has usually been justified over the years.

But it makes no sense to complain that *this particular* Brian release isn't all or mostly unreleased tracks. It's a friggin' "best of" compilation! The only reason it has the two bonus tracks is so that hardcore fans will *also* be roped into buying a collection of songs they otherwise already own.
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« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2017, 04:04:59 PM »

I think the tracklisting is a bit odd (two from GIOMH and one from TLOS???). 

Hopefully, this can convince some new fans to explore the solo albums and maybe generate enough interest to warrant the release of more unreleased stuff.
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« Reply #57 on: June 21, 2017, 04:55:32 PM »

rumor down in nashville has it that RJR is a new rocker! its a song about jeff beck's collection of 32 deuce  coupes. much of it  was recorded during the jeff beck sessions or at least inspired by those sessions. al may have sung on the demo, but brian is now singing the lead alone!


And we now know why Brian was in the studio earlier this year and the comment, I think Facebook, saying so.

http://bestclassicbands.com/brian-wilson-anthology-6-20-17/

Playback: The Brian Wilson Anthology includes a selection of photos from throughout Wilson’s solo career, in addition to a candid shot taken in the studio in 2017 during the recording of “Run James Run.”
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« Reply #58 on: June 21, 2017, 05:05:16 PM »

No  really just wish they had put out something that was mostly unreleased tracks.  Would you not find that more desirable?

56 years into this band and people still don't get the concept behind a "Best of" compilation? They're meant for casual fans/consumers, and as just an extra piece of promotion for the artist.

Of course fans want unreleased stuff, and complaining about the lack of more archival releases for BW and the BBs has usually been justified over the years.

But it makes no sense to complain that *this particular* Brian release isn't all or mostly unreleased tracks. It's a friggin' "best of" compilation! The only reason it has the two bonus tracks is so that hardcore fans will *also* be roped into buying a collection of songs they otherwise already own.

And the benefit of gaining fans through these compilations is that it drives up the demand for more material to be released...i.e. archival releases. I see nothing wrong with this release at all. But the complaining is just the usual belligerent outlet for certain people whose god in the band still can't release a solo song without it being curtailed to some tumbleweed dustbin corner of SoundCloud....whereas Brian has made a successful endeavor throughout his entire solo career working for the biggest labels in the industry.
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« Reply #59 on: June 21, 2017, 05:17:13 PM »

All that having been said I think this is a fantastic list for a complication. 'Your Imagination' isn't on there (which surprises me) - but it's exclusion shows the compilers wanted this to be less of "what sounds kinda like a hit?" and more of "what sounds like pure Brian Wilson?"

I think this release will send people on a crazy ride: the synth wall of sound of BW88, Imagination adult contemporary sound, to the Disney albums, and BWPS, etc. What a range of music and it'll certainly get people interested in this music. Can't wait to hear Run James Run!
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« Reply #60 on: June 21, 2017, 05:25:43 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: June 21, 2017, 06:49:14 PM »

This is nothing more than another piece of merchandising to be given out at the Pet Sounds shows. It would be silly to read this as "testing the waters" for further archival releases... They could issue a "rarities" comp whenever they want. And everyone knows it would easily surpass the sales of this.
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« Reply #62 on: June 21, 2017, 07:23:27 PM »

It's a single-disc overview of Brian Wilson's solo output over the past three decades, which is a catalog of over a dozen solo albums. What's the beef, seriously? For people who don't own all the albums, for more casual fans who may not be as familiar with the solo material or didn't pick up every album, it's a compilation they can put on and hear choice cuts from those albums, and a few bonuses too. What's the beef? Those fans are not the ones going to buy rarities-only sets. They may come back and buy a more extensive set with rarities though, if this overview generates their interest in hearing more. or they may buy the full albums in the back catalog too, who knows. It doesn't matter.

I guess some of this comes in like clockwork, considering the way the fanbase has been polluted by some individuals. On this forum alone there were people posting like they were experts on the music of Brian Wilson who hadn't heard 90% of his solo output and still thought it appropriate to label something as "sh*t". Is anyone surprised now?

There could be some sh*t stirring in pointing out the stark reality that Mike Love hasn't released enough solo material over the same roughly 30 year span as this collection to fill a four song sampler EP - despite regular teases from Mike himself going back 30 years and from some of his more insufferable mouthpieces that new solo releases were coming soon. And in recent interviews he's still going on about how he maintains such an active schedule because he didn't do drugs yet the Wilsons (Brian) did...while Brian has more albums in his solo discography list to pull highlights from than Mike has finished songs to release, let alone getting a label to release them. The only release of note has been the Christmas single, which was slathered in the very same overt processing he and his most ardent supporters flogged Brian over despite not being able to single out more than a millisecond of an audible trace on the tracks in question.

But who's into sh*t stirring, right?

I'm looking forward to this set. I hope more people get a chance to explore Brian's solo material using this as a good sample of what he's released on his own since 88.
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« Reply #63 on: June 22, 2017, 11:24:44 AM »

The fact that we can quibble about what ought to appear on this type of compilation merely highlights the point that Brian has come a long way back from his years of creative paralysis--no matter what caused it.

Those who want an "unreleased" set might want to specify just what time frame they are suggesting--if it includes material prior to 1985, this would be technically ID'd as Beach Boy material, which would muddy the waters.

One of our many experts here might want to compile a list (if it's not here somewhere already...) of Brian's currently known "unreleased" material from his solo career. That would be interesting to look at.

It is a semi-absurd expectation on anyone's part to assume that Brian would ever return to being as prolific as he was in his 1962-66 heyday. Few (if any) individuals have ever done so--remember that the Beatles had two songwriters who often worked separately despite their shared credit arrangement, plus a third writer who emerged earlier than was the case with Dennis in the BB.
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« Reply #64 on: June 22, 2017, 11:54:58 AM »

Off the top of my head --

Usher tunes

Just Say No
Heavenly Bodies
So Long
Christmas Time
Magnetic Attraction

Sweet Insanity tunes

Water Builds Up
Concert Tonight
Brian (Thank You)
Someone to Love
Smart Girls
Do You Have Any Regrets
Hotter
Love Ya

Paley tunes

Marketplace
I'm Broke
Mary Anne
Proud Mary
Chain Reaction of Love
It's Not Easy Being Me
Frankie Avalon
Going Home
Elbow 63'
What Rock N Roll Can Do
Slightly American Music
God Did It

Thomas tunes (not bootlegged, so much less sure)

Melinda, Honey
Everything
He Come Down (new song with Blondie lead)
Danny Boy (w/Jeff Beck)
Metropolis (w/Jeff Beck)

Bennett sessions

Wondering What You're Up to Now
Angels in Love

Gary Griffin sessions

More than an album's worth of oldies recorded in the oughts. ESQ had a list of titles and players some time back -- BW wasn't lead on all of the tunes, although he played many of the instruments (drums included) and produced. I've heard from an insider that the recordings are of somewhat variable quality.
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« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2017, 12:09:14 PM »

I forgot about the griffin sessions and the thomas stuff....
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« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2017, 12:31:13 PM »

I don't understand the timing of this BW release.  There is a Beach Boys CD just about to be released (1967), why not let that CD have its run before announcing a BW collection.  I am focused on 1967/Wild Honey, not interested in anything else.
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« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2017, 02:11:14 PM »

I don't understand the timing of this BW release.  There is a Beach Boys CD just about to be released (1967), why not let that CD have its run before announcing a BW collection.  I am focused on 1967/Wild Honey, not interested in anything else.

There are three months between the two releases. I'd say that's enough time, especially given the big difference in product (one is a rarities anthology for specialists, the other a best-of comp for general audiences).
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« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2017, 02:14:56 PM »

Also, it appears they timed the "official" announcement of the compilation to Brian's birthday.
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« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2017, 02:23:28 PM »

Off the top of my head --

Usher tunes

Just Say No
Heavenly Bodies
So Long
Christmas Time
Magnetic Attraction

Sweet Insanity tunes

Water Builds Up
Concert Tonight
Brian (Thank You)
Someone to Love
Smart Girls
Do You Have Any Regrets
Hotter
Love Ya

Paley tunes

Marketplace
I'm Broke
Mary Anne
Proud Mary
Chain Reaction of Love
It's Not Easy Being Me
Frankie Avalon
Going Home
Elbow 63'
What Rock N Roll Can Do
Slightly American Music
God Did It

Thomas tunes (not bootlegged, so much less sure)

Melinda, Honey
Everything
He Come Down (new song with Blondie lead)
Danny Boy (w/Jeff Beck)
Metropolis (w/Jeff Beck)

Bennett sessions

Wondering What You're Up to Now
Angels in Love

Gary Griffin sessions

More than an album's worth of oldies recorded in the oughts. ESQ had a list of titles and players some time back -- BW wasn't lead on all of the tunes, although he played many of the instruments and produces. I've heard from an insider that the recordings are of somewhat variable quality.

There's definitely plenty of material for a "solo Brian" rarities box, even if they stuck to early-mid 80s and later. There are probably a ton of additional tracks we've never heard of.

Additional stuff off the top of my head: Early 80s demos forBlack Widow
The First Time
There's So Many

Additional BW '88 tracks including:

Terri She Needs Me
Various Demos & Alternates

Early 90s

I Sleep Alone (Studio Demo)

Orange Crate Art

What a Wonderful World (plus possibly others)

There are apparently a good amount of NPP outtakes, seemingly potentially a ton of Joe Thomas-related demos and fragments and outtakes.

I think there might be some early 2000s studio recordings with Andy Paley that took place (I recall Bob Hanes discussing those sessions).

There are probably more mid 90s Andy Paley tracks (studio and/or demo) that haven't circulated.
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« Reply #70 on: June 22, 2017, 02:35:20 PM »

What are the Griffin sessions?
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« Reply #71 on: June 22, 2017, 02:38:37 PM »

No  really just wish they had put out something that was mostly unreleased tracks.  Would you not find that more desirable?

56 years into this band and people still don't get the concept behind a "Best of" compilation? They're meant for casual fans/consumers, and as just an extra piece of promotion for the artist.

Of course fans want unreleased stuff, and complaining about the lack of more archival releases for BW and the BBs has usually been justified over the years.

But it makes no sense to complain that *this particular* Brian release isn't all or mostly unreleased tracks. It's a friggin' "best of" compilation! The only reason it has the two bonus tracks is so that hardcore fans will *also* be roped into buying a collection of songs they otherwise already own.
I think it's a nice-looking set, and if I hadn't just -- just! -- bought BW88, this would actually be the perfect set for me. I know Love and Mercy and the BWPS, Gershwin and NPP tracks, and have just started digging a little deeper into Brian's solo catalog. At this point I think I'm probably on the road to buying all the individual albums, but there's certainly a place for a set like this.



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« Reply #72 on: June 22, 2017, 03:13:02 PM »

What are the Griffin sessions?

More than an albums' worth of oldies that Brian and various members of his band recorded at Gary Griffin's house in the late oughts. Foskett, Bennett and Gary are heavily featured. Endless Summer Quarterly published a rundown a year or so ago. None of the material has leaked, as far as I know. And as much as it pains me to say it, apparently we aren't missing much.
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« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2017, 04:01:16 PM »

What are the Griffin sessions?

More than an albums' worth of oldies that Brian and various members of his band recorded at Gary Griffin's house in the late oughts. Foskett, Bennett and Gary are heavily featured. Endless Summer Quarterly published a rundown a year or so ago. None of the material has leaked, as far as I know. And as much as it pains me to say it, apparently we aren't missing much.
but i want it anyway
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« Reply #74 on: June 22, 2017, 04:50:04 PM »

What are the Griffin sessions?

More than an albums' worth of oldies that Brian and various members of his band recorded at Gary Griffin's house in the late oughts. Foskett, Bennett and Gary are heavily featured. Endless Summer Quarterly published a rundown a year or so ago. None of the material has leaked, as far as I know. And as much as it pains me to say it, apparently we aren't missing much.
but i want it anyway

Did it say what the songs were that were recorded?
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